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Spot on. Wenger has become a fire fighter, instead of the innovator he started out to be. He has lost that edge of ruthlessness. H has lost that element of risk taking. Basically he's become a bottler.

I would prefer AW to leave as soon as possible so at least his replacement has longer to prepare for next season. I can dream...

It is VITAL that he goes this summer and not next.

This summer an incoming manager has the entire summer, with no distractions, to peruse the squad, and buy and sell players.

Next summer, the World Cup in Brazil means far less time with the players, less time to evaluate, less time to implement change, less time to prepare.

This summer is absolutely key, and it should be a summer without Wenger at the helm.

And who do you think should take over from Wenger,you must have thought this through is you want Wenger out,and please don't say David Moyes

Guys, there is NO chance of Wenger leaving this summer. Firstly he won't ever be sacked. Wenger is seen as Arsenal's most prized asset and this is why reports are circulating that he's been offered a 2 year extension.

Secondly, Wenger will never walk away from a contract. His contract is up in 2014, and if he goes, only he will decide when.

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In a nuts shell

If he doesn't walk, he should be pushed. The increasing amount of vocal disapproval happening at home games should indicate to him that his time is up.

I'd have Pelligrini to replace him possibly, but my first choice would be Frank de Boer. He's a young, modern coach with many years ahead of him. He has experience of developing great Youth players, and is winning Titles while playing great football.

Whoever is brought in to replace Wenger, may fail and Arsenal may regress. But they may also make progress. That's a risk, and to some fans it's a big one. However, under Wenger regression seems to be almost guaranteed, and I'd far rather take a 50/50 chance of failure than a certainty.

groovyduringthewar

Anyone! Fat Sam, Phil Brown...well maybe not...

Basically any manager who is willing to adapt and change their approach and ideals.

I think huge number of people and may be even our board are scared and afraid to make changes at club. AW being huge success for last 16 odd years, people are not willing to take risk to replace him. That's my opinion. It's like being in comfort zone to me and afraid of making changes.

If he doesn't walk, he should be pushed.
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Pushed? By whom? The board? Those that are content with picking up CL booty money with minial expenditure with even a single season out of the CL not a worry for them?

Or the fans? That'll keep on paying for extornationate prices but fail to voice their dissapproval at the management?

He's been there for 16 years. I'd say he was a success for the first 50%. For the next 50% he's been living off that reputation. Surely when failure begins to outweigh success it's time for change?

"Surely when failure begins to outweigh success it's time for change?"

Exactly, the last time we were even close to winning the league was 07-08 and we would've done had he bought a striker in Jan, since then it's been pretty much backwards every year.

It should, but it won't because the club view the term "success" as something different to us fans.

We see Success as trophies, titles and the drive towards winning those trophies.

The board sees success as CL qualification with minimal expenditure.

You sound like you've given up Serial
Never give up. You can't make a difference unless you try.

IMO this whole Bould/Wenger dispute will also aid in his (AW's) departure.

Such a shame that things have been aloud to regress to the extent they have.

IMO this whole Bould/Wenger dispute
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Is that true story?

We wont win a trophy under Wenger again.

We wont even come 4th this year. People saying Spurs will collapse again are deluded.

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I fear that too Fubo, we may not win under AW which could be another season or two.

JackDArsenalWarrior

At first (before Dec 2012) I was skeptical but the fact that so many people close to the club have spoken about it (and in detail) would conclude that it is true.

People who think it's too big a risk to get rid of Wenger are short-sighted in my opinion. With a new manager, we may do worse, we may get better, we may be roughly at the same level. But we will never know unless we try.

When Wenger first came to Arsenal, who had heard of him? Who had trust in him to turn our fortunes around the way that he did?

What's to say another manager wouldn't do that?

Any manager we get will be a risk and there's no guarantee he will succeed. But I would rather we try and show some intent each season, show more respect to cup competitions, adapt our tactics in accordance to the opposition and have new methods at the club, rather than trying to aim for 4th each season and achieving the bare minimum.

Wenger doesn't have what it takes anymore - and the sooner he leaves, the better for the club.

The discontent is growing among fans and if we get battered by Bayern, the atmosphere will be very hostile in the next few home games. Honestly the worst way we could have gone into this game was by losing to Blackburn at home. That was the worst result we could have had.

I absolutely agree with you Samir

The comments on this Article show to me that the strength of feeling about Wenger is growing.

But Bonstar, does Wenger know the feeling is growing against him, or does he still think it's actually all rosy and everything is just a media created campaign against him?