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posted on 25/6/22

comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 18 minutes ago
Don't think people understand the transformative effect Jesus will probably have in our attack. The fact he simply gets into the box is a massive improvement on last season.

He is strong, decent in the air, good dribbler, good link up play, aggressive.

Personally, he'll need to score more goals to justify that fee. Arteta is making him the main man. Let's see if he can step up to the challenge.
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I don't mind if he or whoever becomes our CF scores loads of goals (obviously it's great if they do).

For Arteta's tactics to work and to get the best out of our excellent wide players we need a CF who can get the ball down and play with them, play them in as much as a guy to finish off chances.

Exactly like you said "strong, decent in the air, good dribbler, good link up play, aggressive" - whether Jesus is those things I'm personally not sure.

That's at least what I saw missing big time first with Auba, also with Eddie but less so when Lacazette was on form despite his major shortcomings in other areas.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?

posted on 25/6/22

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/05/31084057/positions_gabriel_jesus_2021-22-1024x1024.png

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/05/31084010/pizza_gabriel_jesus_RW_2021-22-1024x1024.png

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/05/31084202/Gabriel-Jesus_goals_xg_ribbon-1024x819.png

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
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You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
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You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?
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Xhaka will play.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
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You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?
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Xhaka will play.
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Where?

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 25/6/22

Exactly like you said "strong, decent in the air, good dribbler, good link up play, aggressive" - whether Jesus is those things I'm personally not sure.

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Why not? You must've seen him play.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?
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Xhaka will play.
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Where?
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In midfield.

posted on 25/6/22

Great analysis on Jesus. if you are interested.

https://theathletic.com/3341763/2022/06/01/arsenal-striker-transfer-jesus-osimhen/

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
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You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?
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Xhaka will play.
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Where?
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In midfield.
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Instead of who?

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 25/6/22

Jesus, Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard, Vieira, Eddie. They all like to press aswell.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where is Xhaka?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You tell me? Who do I drop in this formation to fit Xhaka in?
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Xhaka will play.
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Where?
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In midfield.
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Instead of who?
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So you think your line up is god given?

posted on 25/6/22

Pete when we finally signing Saha

https://twitter.com/TheFigen/status/1540430578293608452

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 25/6/22

Don't think Vieira will be a consistent starter until he packs on some muscle.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about an hour ago
-------------- Jesus (Eddie/Martinelli) --------------

Raphinha (Martinelli) ------------ Saka (Raphinha)

--------- Vieira (ESR) -------- Ode (ESR) ---------

-------------- Partey (Elneny/Lisandro) ------------

Lisandro (Tierney) - Gab (Saliba) - White (Holding) - Tomi (Cedric)

--------------- Ramsdale (Turner) -------------------
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Where is Xhaka?
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So you think your line up is god given?
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Of course not. But we aren't spending £30m+ each on players to sit on the bench. Vieira and Odegaard will start. And if we are still linked to Tielemans.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted about a minute ago
Don't think Vieira will be a consistent starter until he packs on some muscle.
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Knowing our luck with injuries looks like we have some replacements available on all fronts if we get our targets in.

https://twitter.com/rehnato/status/1540442962689228804

So that's Raphinha done then

posted on 25/6/22

Doubt Vieira will go straight in. He wasn't even a regular at Porto, plus he is likely to be on the right early on. Europa for him to begin with.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Doubt Vieira will go straight in. He wasn't even a regular at Porto, plus he is likely to be on the right early on. Europa for him to begin with.

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It depends what impression all players making in the preseason.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't think Vieira will be a consistent starter until he packs on some muscle.
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Arteta tried this formation with Ceballos and Odegaard. And then on occasion with ESR and Odegaard.

I can't see why Arteta would spend £35m+ on Vieira if not to start him. Its how City play btw. 4-1-4-1.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Doubt Vieira will go straight in. He wasn't even a regular at Porto, plus he is likely to be on the right early on. Europa for him to begin with.

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It didn't take Ramsdale too long.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't think Vieira will be a consistent starter until he packs on some muscle.
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Arteta tried this formation with Ceballos and Odegaard. And then on occasion with ESR and Odegaard.

I can't see why Arteta would spend £35m+ on Vieira if not to start him. Its how City play btw. 4-1-4-1.
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You really think Arteta is Pep 2 and copies everything, do you?

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Doubt Vieira will go straight in. He wasn't even a regular at Porto, plus he is likely to be on the right early on. Europa for him to begin with.

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It didn't take Ramsdale too long.
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Took him the EFL Cup, but he was a regular the season before, and the season before...
Fabio is more comparable to Sambi.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't think Vieira will be a consistent starter until he packs on some muscle.
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Arteta tried this formation with Ceballos and Odegaard. And then on occasion with ESR and Odegaard.

I can't see why Arteta would spend £35m+ on Vieira if not to start him. Its how City play btw. 4-1-4-1.
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You really think Arteta is Pep 2 and copies everything, do you?
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He played Xhaka in the advanced role last season.

posted on 25/6/22

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Doubt Vieira will go straight in. He wasn't even a regular at Porto, plus he is likely to be on the right early on. Europa for him to begin with.

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It didn't take Ramsdale too long.
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Took him the EFL Cup, but he was a regular the season before, and the season before...
Fabio is more comparable to Sambi.
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We'll see. I think it will be clearer if/when we go after Tielemans after Jesus and Raphinha are secured.

posted on 25/6/22

He played Xhaka as a FB because of no other possible solution.

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