Thank you for your indepth analysis on that decision, for people like me who havent seen it.

It is like a crystal clear image in my head

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Morning raj

I agree with you on this one, it was a little tap in a physical game, much ado about nothing.

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Terry's dismissal with red card at Nou Camp last term ECL. Was there very much difference between the two incidents, kindly remind me?

Go back to watching Cricket....

i'm inclined to agree with you it wasn't red card offence.
The problem is the people telling us it wasn't a red card are the same ones who were adamant Terry was rightly sent off in Nou Camp.
So, either Ferdinand's got away with it or Terry was hard done by. You can't have it both ways.

You can't have it both ways.

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Ay ...there's the rubbity dub...
Only human nature to have ones cake and eat and then refuse to digest hahaha....

Maybe I've missed something (only saw one replay of the Rio incident), but were they really the same?

I thought Rio's was a trip, and Terry planted a knee in someone's back?

I thought Rio's was a trip, and Terry planted a knee in someone's back?
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Both involve physical contact. The question being accidental or deliberate? Both situations could be argued to be accidental as well as deliberate. Terry was adamant his contact was reflex accidental. Rio has not commented. One was severely punished. The other ignored... You tell me why?

Tway (U1162)

Sorry, but that's not correct.

If you place your hand on someone's shoulder it's physical contact.

The laws don't say anything about being accidental or deliberate.

I think they were treated differently because the Terry incident was deemed violent conduct but the Rio incident wasn't.

You might not agree, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Either way it was a stupid thing to do as he could have been banned.. and i dont really understand what he was doing or why he was doing it???

it is a sly little trick that others in this league would be villified for.. but not a red.

scouse-heart (U3234)

He's been roundly criticised and rightly so.

Anyone saying it was doesn't understand football rules.

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So what are the rules now then ? Have they changed since I last checked ?

Are you now allowed to run up behind a player and kick him to the floor ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriKiUrHjvQ

"kick him to the floor"

Whatever sensationalist language you use, there's no real escaping the fact that if the ref had seen it, he'd be booked.

It was a trip!

It is a yellow im not arguing with that but i still cant see the reason for it.....

maybe before people claim all these other players go on the malicuous attacks of others in the heat of a tackle it would be good to remember that this was calculated and thought through knowing the ref wasnt looking...

scouse-heart (U3234)

I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

It was a stupid thing to do, borne out of what had just happened and probably an under-lying rivalry.

Nothing else to be said really - Rio is hardly a serial offender with this type of thing.

Winston this is my point... and its not aimed at you really but I wil explain as it seems the OP isnt around to comment..

The OP created this article yesterday

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/195452

including these lines in the original post...
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lots of teams have players that dive but dont necessarily kick people off the ball

so do any teams have players as badly behaved as the vile suarez?

i cant think of any
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my point is it seems that i can think of one that the OP cant....

scouse-heart (U3234)

Ah I see!

Yes - fair point. I think it's easy to overreact for something Suarez has done and agree that more would have been made of it, had this have been him.

I also think Torres' reaction helped Rio... not much was made of it.

I do disagree slightly though. Suarez has been guilty of a lot of petulance in his career, so something like this would perhaps be seen in addition to those offences, rather than a one off.

I understand what you are saying int erms of Suarez but think that we should try at least to judge indivdual incidents on individual merits... you know as otherwise whats the point in trying to behave better if i was Suarez thats what id be thinking...


surely you can see why some of our fans accuse others of hypocrisy over their vilification of Suarez?

ps, im bookmarking this very article...

scouse-heart (U3234)

Yes mate, I can understand.

I do agree with you, I just think sometimes Liverpool fans are a little naive to Suarez' history.

Plenty of good players have played for Liverpool over the years and not been given the stick Suarez gets - which surely shows that it's not because he's an LFC player.

I honestly think he gets a rough deal from fans and the media mainly because he's done so many things wrong across his career - more than most!

Im never naive to suarez's past history and current wrong doings...

however when does it stop this season has been a vast improvement and even under the scrutiny of the media (who i agree love to sensationalise him) however why bother as the smallest detail of his game is poured over with people making assumptions that everything he does is premeditated as oppose to a stupid mistake as Rio is being shown the courtesy of here...

On sunday saurez was kicked by Spiurs for every minute of the game, only his reactions are focussed on...

MOTD even shown a foul on him by Parker and told us 'he was at it again'

this is why we defend him...however he is far from innocent but then so are many others...

scouse-heart (U3234)

To be fair, if this is an improvement then that doesn't say much for where he started!

His constant rolling around, exaggerating contact etc. winds fans up, and because of that, they notice it more when he does something else.

I know that he's not the only one to do this, but I'm just trying to explain the opposite view.

This season he's dived, he's kicked out and he's continued with the excessive rolling around and whining... so I don't see how it wouldn't be picked up on?

I just think as an overall on the character on the pitch, he's worst than a lot of other players even now and that, along with his history, contributes to an increased level of attention.

If not that, why do you think it happens?

Why do people focus on Suarez so much? I don't remember any other Liverpool player getting the same treatment?

Are you sure if the ref had seen it that would have been a yellow?

I doubt it, it's not like the ball was anywhere near him and he was trying to win it, knowing that he can't he tripped the player. Now that I can see as a yellow. But what he did in my eyes that should be a red.

If the ref saw a player slap another player on the pitch, that is a straight red, I don't see how a slap and a trip ,where the ball is not in play, is different.

Bottom line, I think he got away with it. Had it been Suarez, I don't think he would have.