his stats are decent and you were all happy to throw his stats from last year around.
He's poor though for a guy his size he doesn't do much a big lad should do well.
Well J99 I talked about to subb Giroud for Walcott. Its obvious that Wenger sees somthing in Giroud.
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If we had another striker Wenger would have taken him off. But we don't. So I don't see how your constant attempts at deflecting blame of Giroud to Walcott makes any difference.
Wenger singled out Giroud's lack of a square pass to Cazorla for a chance on the open goal. He also mentioned Gervinho's miss. So I would be so quick to judge Wenger's opinion so quickly.
If you have been following Arsenal for a while I am sure you are aware that when Wenger singles out misses is not a good sign. Bendtner and Chamakh have had that in the past!
Who would you like to see Arsenal sign on the summer as first choice striker?
gunnerthru
now do you understand why i said playing for pride was important?
No GT, you are making assumptions based on nothing. If we lose 2-1 what makes you think Bayern would have played with the same attitude, or that we would have? You haven't a clue so don't make comments based on speculation.
Also I don't see how it is relevant to the topic. If we had a top striker playing tonight in Munich maybe we would have won by more than 2.
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Well I made an assumption in your view which isnt right to do. You made an assumption too in saying that if we only lost only 2-1 at home Bayern would have played with another approach.
So I said that if we were more solid at the back we could have gone through and even get at least a point at WHL. So your speculation is more valuable than mine.
Mmmhhh....makes me slightly chuckle.
Who would you like to see Arsenal sign on the summer as first choice striker?
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Jovetic
Osvaldo
Negredo
Possibly Aubameyang
Off the top of my head...
Samir would also you keep all 3 of giroud, Podolski and Gerv?
J99, you dont really answer my question.
Samir would also you keep all 3 of giroud, Podolski and Gerv?
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Giroud? Yes. Despite his poor performances, he's scored some important goals and this is only his first season in English football.
Podolski? Yes. Influential player for us despite being played in his less favored position.
Gervinho? Seriously, did you really just ask me that?
"Well I made an assumption in your view which isnt right to do. You made an assumption too in saying that if we only lost only 2-1 at home Bayern would have played with another approach.
So I said that if we were more solid at the back we could have gone through and even get at least a point at WHL. So your speculation is more valuable than mine.
Mmmhhh....makes me slightly chuckle."
Wow I didn't speculate on anything. I said that I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN SO IT WOULD BE POINTLESS TO SPECULATE. Read my comment next time.
Gervinho? Seriously, did you really just ask me that?
I though youd say somethign like that, Giroud's been poor IMO but he's still scored 15 goals in a debut season that's a decent return. Gervinho is awful though.
I would keep Giroud next season as a bench player. We need a top class striker up front like a Jovetic or an El Shaaraway or if we want to go for the cheaper option a David Villa.
Players that create something out of nothing and score when it matters.
" If we lose 2-1 what makes you think Bayern would have played with the same attitude, or that we would have? You haven't a clue so don't make comments based on speculation."
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so that is not based on speculation?
We need a top class striker up front like a Jovetic or an El Shaaraway or if we want to go for the cheaper option a David Villa.
El Shaaraway did very well yesterday
Batmoanu and GT...
In conclusion, we need better defense (including keeper) and better forwards.
OMG GT
Read the comment you copied and pasted again. Keep reading it and maybe it will sink in. ffs
El Shaaraway did very well yesterday
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One poor game doesn't make a player bad just like one good game doesn't make him a world beater, unless you're and Arsenal goalkeeper that is
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"One poor game doesn't make a player bad just like one good game doesn't make him a world beater"
You are talking to GT here, his hero Giroud will have 1 good game in 15 and be the best striker in the world but every other striker with an ounce of talent who puts in 1 poor performance in 15 is automatically not good enough.
J99, you dont really answer my question.
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No I did. Walcott did not have a good game after the first half when he was very effective. In fact Bayern sat back deep because they were scared of his pace which allowed Giroud to sit far higher in the pitch. That was a problem and in fact if Giroud should have scored a second in the first half as batmanu pointed out.
Wenger had options to change it up with Theo when he became ineffective in the second half with Oxlade. And Oxlade did OK and as pointed out, used Jenko very well a couple of times. Oxalde also came into the middle more often to help a tiring Rosicky.
Arsene had no one to replace Giroud with. I haven't heard one commentator in this country who thinks that Giroud had a good game. But he scored. And he was always a threat at set pieces. Kos scored from a set piece so it was important to have an aerial presence for the rest of the game. Thats what he sees in Giroud. Someone who we can launch long balls to. Thats not Arsenal like, but effective against European teams sitting back on their goalkeeper. Thats not enough at the top level and the lay-off he missed to Cazolra was nearly as criminal as Bendtner's lack of ball control at the Camp Nou.
Don't assume that Wenger 'sees' something in Giroud so he subbed Theo instead of him. Thats nonsensical if you look at the game tactically. In fact Wenger was critical of Giroud and Gervinho after the game. Thats never a good sign for players. Wenger never singles out missed chances unless he is mightily annoyed..
The only option we have for Giroud in the squad, ie someone with striking experience is Podolski. And for whatever reason, unknown to me, he does not like him in that role.
Arsene had no one to replace Giroud with. I haven't heard one commentator in this country who thinks that Giroud had a good game.
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Waclott to replace Giroud as CF. Problem solved. Wenger didnt do that. So why?
I didnt say that we have a world class striker in Giroud. So what you are on about?
You are talking to GT here, his hero Giroud will have 1 good game in 15 and be the best striker in the world but every other striker with an ounce of talent who puts in 1 poor performance in 15 is automatically not good enough.
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So that assume that I didnt watch the player you classed world class every weekend.
Giroud scored again
Haters gonna hate
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posted on 13/3/13
*misunderstand
posted on 13/3/13
his stats are decent and you were all happy to throw his stats from last year around.
He's poor though for a guy his size he doesn't do much a big lad should do well.
posted on 13/3/13
Well J99 I talked about to subb Giroud for Walcott. Its obvious that Wenger sees somthing in Giroud.
-------------------------------
If we had another striker Wenger would have taken him off. But we don't. So I don't see how your constant attempts at deflecting blame of Giroud to Walcott makes any difference.
Wenger singled out Giroud's lack of a square pass to Cazorla for a chance on the open goal. He also mentioned Gervinho's miss. So I would be so quick to judge Wenger's opinion so quickly.
If you have been following Arsenal for a while I am sure you are aware that when Wenger singles out misses is not a good sign. Bendtner and Chamakh have had that in the past!
posted on 13/3/13
Who would you like to see Arsenal sign on the summer as first choice striker?
posted on 13/3/13
gunnerthru
now do you understand why i said playing for pride was important?
posted on 13/3/13
No GT, you are making assumptions based on nothing. If we lose 2-1 what makes you think Bayern would have played with the same attitude, or that we would have? You haven't a clue so don't make comments based on speculation.
Also I don't see how it is relevant to the topic. If we had a top striker playing tonight in Munich maybe we would have won by more than 2.
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Well I made an assumption in your view which isnt right to do. You made an assumption too in saying that if we only lost only 2-1 at home Bayern would have played with another approach.
So I said that if we were more solid at the back we could have gone through and even get at least a point at WHL. So your speculation is more valuable than mine.
Mmmhhh....makes me slightly chuckle.
posted on 13/3/13
Who would you like to see Arsenal sign on the summer as first choice striker?
---
Jovetic
Osvaldo
Negredo
Possibly Aubameyang
Off the top of my head...
posted on 13/3/13
Samir would also you keep all 3 of giroud, Podolski and Gerv?
posted on 13/3/13
J99, you dont really answer my question.
posted on 13/3/13
Samir would also you keep all 3 of giroud, Podolski and Gerv?
---
Giroud? Yes. Despite his poor performances, he's scored some important goals and this is only his first season in English football.
Podolski? Yes. Influential player for us despite being played in his less favored position.
Gervinho? Seriously, did you really just ask me that?
posted on 13/3/13
"Well I made an assumption in your view which isnt right to do. You made an assumption too in saying that if we only lost only 2-1 at home Bayern would have played with another approach.
So I said that if we were more solid at the back we could have gone through and even get at least a point at WHL. So your speculation is more valuable than mine.
Mmmhhh....makes me slightly chuckle."
Wow I didn't speculate on anything. I said that I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN SO IT WOULD BE POINTLESS TO SPECULATE. Read my comment next time.
posted on 13/3/13
Gervinho? Seriously, did you really just ask me that?
I though youd say somethign like that, Giroud's been poor IMO but he's still scored 15 goals in a debut season that's a decent return. Gervinho is awful though.
posted on 13/3/13
I would keep Giroud next season as a bench player. We need a top class striker up front like a Jovetic or an El Shaaraway or if we want to go for the cheaper option a David Villa.
Players that create something out of nothing and score when it matters.
posted on 13/3/13
" If we lose 2-1 what makes you think Bayern would have played with the same attitude, or that we would have? You haven't a clue so don't make comments based on speculation."
::::::::::::::
so that is not based on speculation?
posted on 13/3/13
We need a top class striker up front like a Jovetic or an El Shaaraway or if we want to go for the cheaper option a David Villa.
El Shaaraway did very well yesterday
posted on 13/3/13
Batmoanu and GT...
In conclusion, we need better defense (including keeper) and better forwards.
posted on 13/3/13
OMG GT
Read the comment you copied and pasted again. Keep reading it and maybe it will sink in. ffs
posted on 13/3/13
El Shaaraway did very well yesterday
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One poor game doesn't make a player bad just like one good game doesn't make him a world beater, unless you're and Arsenal goalkeeper that is
posted on 13/3/13
posted on 13/3/13
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posted on 13/3/13
"One poor game doesn't make a player bad just like one good game doesn't make him a world beater"
You are talking to GT here, his hero Giroud will have 1 good game in 15 and be the best striker in the world but every other striker with an ounce of talent who puts in 1 poor performance in 15 is automatically not good enough.
posted on 13/3/13
As handsome as Giroud
posted on 13/3/13
J99, you dont really answer my question.
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No I did. Walcott did not have a good game after the first half when he was very effective. In fact Bayern sat back deep because they were scared of his pace which allowed Giroud to sit far higher in the pitch. That was a problem and in fact if Giroud should have scored a second in the first half as batmanu pointed out.
Wenger had options to change it up with Theo when he became ineffective in the second half with Oxlade. And Oxlade did OK and as pointed out, used Jenko very well a couple of times. Oxalde also came into the middle more often to help a tiring Rosicky.
Arsene had no one to replace Giroud with. I haven't heard one commentator in this country who thinks that Giroud had a good game. But he scored. And he was always a threat at set pieces. Kos scored from a set piece so it was important to have an aerial presence for the rest of the game. Thats what he sees in Giroud. Someone who we can launch long balls to. Thats not Arsenal like, but effective against European teams sitting back on their goalkeeper. Thats not enough at the top level and the lay-off he missed to Cazolra was nearly as criminal as Bendtner's lack of ball control at the Camp Nou.
Don't assume that Wenger 'sees' something in Giroud so he subbed Theo instead of him. Thats nonsensical if you look at the game tactically. In fact Wenger was critical of Giroud and Gervinho after the game. Thats never a good sign for players. Wenger never singles out missed chances unless he is mightily annoyed..
The only option we have for Giroud in the squad, ie someone with striking experience is Podolski. And for whatever reason, unknown to me, he does not like him in that role.
posted on 13/3/13
Arsene had no one to replace Giroud with. I haven't heard one commentator in this country who thinks that Giroud had a good game.
____________________________
Waclott to replace Giroud as CF. Problem solved. Wenger didnt do that. So why?
I didnt say that we have a world class striker in Giroud. So what you are on about?
You are talking to GT here, his hero Giroud will have 1 good game in 15 and be the best striker in the world but every other striker with an ounce of talent who puts in 1 poor performance in 15 is automatically not good enough.
________________________________
So that assume that I didnt watch the player you classed world class every weekend.
posted on 14/3/13
Giroud scored again
Haters gonna hate
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