I can only source the articles make if it what you will though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6076094.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-412157/Mascherano-rages-FA-punish-Defoe.html
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/oct/24/newsstory.sport7
All day the same thing really.
Since 2006 the rules have changed meaning in social circumstances they can step in, however the difference with the two incidents is one was dealt with (wrongly by the ref) the other wasn't witnessed.
I will back tracka little though as I've just read the guardian one and it did state in special circumstances like Ben Thatcher case they could have stepped in. Hmmm.
Basically when they feel like it. As has been the case with the FA, they make it up as they go along. Their punishments will never be fair, when compared with others and it's this inconsistency which makes them a laughing stock.
FFS Suarez bit a fellow professional
What does this guy have to do to make you realise he is dragging LFC through the mud?
If Rooney had bitten Gerrard you people would be vying for blood
We get it, he's a good player but Jesus wept ffs wake up to what he is
This is becoming more and more embarrasing for u guys
Biting is in a different category to bad tackles. By pool fans logic a player should not get sent off for spitting as its not harmful is it?
He should get 7 games and be referred to a psychiatric ward. Honestly.
dont know why pool fans are defending him. he will be gone this summer.
i would just think rooney is a nutcase
you lot have got to be the biggest bunch of sanctimonious 's I've ever read.
You've all got players that week in week out like to kick people and get away with it, you're trying to equate something that didn't break the skin or leave a mark to being a heinous act for something done in the heat of the moment.
No one is defending Luis actions, what he did was wrong, he knows it and has apologised,whatever comes next comes next.
But whatever happens you can stick your faux-morality up your rs.
everyone is out to get luis. the fa , the media, opposition fans. kop on...
the guys a loony tunes, a smashing footballer but a lunatic that has gone astep to far this time. hes finished in liverpool despite whats coming from your board. he will be sold mark my words...
Wow, Liverpool fans throughout this article and since Sunday have been in support of Suarez being banned, have condemned what he did and have been outraged and let down by his actions, yet STILL you have people here saying that Liverpool fans are condoning his actions. Are you really that stupid or is it simply, as I've felt all along that you're annoyed that Liverpool fans haven't stuck up for him, annoyed that you can't slate them for it, that you blank it out and slate anyhow?
Pathetic.
My guess would be 8 games.
There is no way in hell it will only be 3 games.
Liverpool fans are pathetic. Not all, but a far larger amount than any other fan base.
Many pool fans have condemned him, but still think he should only get 3 games. He bit some one. WTF. That is not all right. If he spunked on a player would that only deserve a 3 game ban?
WTF. That is not all right. If he spunked on a player would that only deserve a 3 game ban?
.......................................
They would explain to you that that is far less likely to cause injury than tackle x by Man United player which only got a yellow card so any ban over 3 games is proof of a conspiracy.
liverpool fans had little choice but to codemn this latest suarez incident because unlike the evra incident there was video evidence showing what he did. but along with the so called condemnation some pool fans have used words like provocation, tried to cite precedents, imply media and fa witch hunts and even downplay the incident because suarez bite didnt break the skin.
If there was even the slightest doubt we would be hearing it all about xenophobic media, xenophobic FA and probably some kind of conspiracy directed from afar by SAF.
Good to see Suso The Clown has his usual good input
"I don't agree with viddy often, but he is right. Some Liverpool fans are embarrassing. I'm embarrassed."
...
Embarrassed! And you ought to be.
Your failure to understand that the argument is not about the crime but the punishment is still ongoing.
This is twice now where I have seen you claim to be embarrassed by fellow Liverpool fans.
I think I speak on behalf of other Liverpool fans on here when i say that you're embarrassing yourself for not understanding the crux of the anger.
Nobody disputes that Suarez is wrong but to remain silent when the governing body change/bend the rules from one scenario to the next would be totally wrong.
This is not a Liverpool fc issue, it is a football one.
So do us all a favour, take your embarrassment onto another board where the ignorance on this matter continues to be rife
Nobody disputes that Suarez is wrong but to remain silent when the governing body change/bend the rules from one scenario to the next would be totally wrong.
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No it would be totally wrong to not act and therefore not show they were wrong the first time. They have every right to change the punishment to make it suitable for the quite frankly insanity shown on the pitch.
Diving wasn't carded at one point in the game. Should they have remained consistent for the future and never card for simulation? I hope they make an example out of Suarez, not because he is a Liverpool player or because he bit won of our meatiest players but because as an human, adult and "professional" this sort of thing is an embarrassment to the sport and people in general. A grown man biting another grown man...and without consent!!
No it would be totally wrong to not act and therefore not show they were wrong the first time
...
They have acted. They have banned him for violent misconduct - which it is.
This heavily outweighs the punishment handed down to Defoe for the exact same offence.
What i can't fathom on these boards is why everyone is now saying 'oh, well we probably got the Defoe one wrong'. This wasn't the general consensus at the time. It just seems to help shape the witchhunt
Your problem is that you think violent conduct should be structured, e.g a kick being less severe than a punch or a punch being less severe than a headbutt. Now a bite being worse than headbutt. That's not the way to deal with it. Gary Neville summed it up perfectly when he spoke about this being a cultural thing.
We're british and we're tough, only headbutts allowed etc
The other things are acts within the game. Dangerous acts and potentially dirty but not out of the human behavior expected from not only professional athletes but just humans in general who are above 2 yrs old.
I don't even consider this violent conduct. They just had to label it something. This is animalistic. What if Ivanovic had a marathon of the walking dead the night before. It could've lead to Suarez's head being ripped off. It's for his safety as well as others.
As an athlete you will take a heavy challenge as part of the game. A wondering elbow, sure. You won't be happy and will look to retaliate most likely....but a bite? Come on. It's indefensible. End of.
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posted on 23/4/13
Yeah i'm in for 7
posted on 23/4/13
I can only source the articles make if it what you will though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6076094.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-412157/Mascherano-rages-FA-punish-Defoe.html
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/oct/24/newsstory.sport7
All day the same thing really.
posted on 23/4/13
Since 2006 the rules have changed meaning in social circumstances they can step in, however the difference with the two incidents is one was dealt with (wrongly by the ref) the other wasn't witnessed.
posted on 23/4/13
I will back tracka little though as I've just read the guardian one and it did state in special circumstances like Ben Thatcher case they could have stepped in. Hmmm.
posted on 23/4/13
Basically when they feel like it. As has been the case with the FA, they make it up as they go along. Their punishments will never be fair, when compared with others and it's this inconsistency which makes them a laughing stock.
posted on 23/4/13
FFS Suarez bit a fellow professional
What does this guy have to do to make you realise he is dragging LFC through the mud?
If Rooney had bitten Gerrard you people would be vying for blood
We get it, he's a good player but Jesus wept ffs wake up to what he is
This is becoming more and more embarrasing for u guys
posted on 23/4/13
Biting is in a different category to bad tackles. By pool fans logic a player should not get sent off for spitting as its not harmful is it?
He should get 7 games and be referred to a psychiatric ward. Honestly.
posted on 23/4/13
dont know why pool fans are defending him. he will be gone this summer.
posted on 23/4/13
i would just think rooney is a nutcase
posted on 23/4/13
you lot have got to be the biggest bunch of sanctimonious 's I've ever read.
You've all got players that week in week out like to kick people and get away with it, you're trying to equate something that didn't break the skin or leave a mark to being a heinous act for something done in the heat of the moment.
No one is defending Luis actions, what he did was wrong, he knows it and has apologised,whatever comes next comes next.
But whatever happens you can stick your faux-morality up your rs.
posted on 23/4/13
everyone is out to get luis. the fa , the media, opposition fans. kop on...
the guys a loony tunes, a smashing footballer but a lunatic that has gone astep to far this time. hes finished in liverpool despite whats coming from your board. he will be sold mark my words...
posted on 23/4/13
Wow, Liverpool fans throughout this article and since Sunday have been in support of Suarez being banned, have condemned what he did and have been outraged and let down by his actions, yet STILL you have people here saying that Liverpool fans are condoning his actions. Are you really that stupid or is it simply, as I've felt all along that you're annoyed that Liverpool fans haven't stuck up for him, annoyed that you can't slate them for it, that you blank it out and slate anyhow?
Pathetic.
posted on 24/4/13
My guess would be 8 games.
There is no way in hell it will only be 3 games.
posted on 24/4/13
Liverpool fans are pathetic. Not all, but a far larger amount than any other fan base.
Many pool fans have condemned him, but still think he should only get 3 games. He bit some one. WTF. That is not all right. If he spunked on a player would that only deserve a 3 game ban?
posted on 24/4/13
WTF. That is not all right. If he spunked on a player would that only deserve a 3 game ban?
.......................................
They would explain to you that that is far less likely to cause injury than tackle x by Man United player which only got a yellow card so any ban over 3 games is proof of a conspiracy.
posted on 24/4/13
Suarez
posted on 24/4/13
posted on 24/4/13
liverpool fans had little choice but to codemn this latest suarez incident because unlike the evra incident there was video evidence showing what he did. but along with the so called condemnation some pool fans have used words like provocation, tried to cite precedents, imply media and fa witch hunts and even downplay the incident because suarez bite didnt break the skin.
posted on 24/4/13
If there was even the slightest doubt we would be hearing it all about xenophobic media, xenophobic FA and probably some kind of conspiracy directed from afar by SAF.
posted on 24/4/13
Good to see Suso The Clown has his usual good input
posted on 24/4/13
"I don't agree with viddy often, but he is right. Some Liverpool fans are embarrassing. I'm embarrassed."
...
Embarrassed! And you ought to be.
Your failure to understand that the argument is not about the crime but the punishment is still ongoing.
This is twice now where I have seen you claim to be embarrassed by fellow Liverpool fans.
I think I speak on behalf of other Liverpool fans on here when i say that you're embarrassing yourself for not understanding the crux of the anger.
Nobody disputes that Suarez is wrong but to remain silent when the governing body change/bend the rules from one scenario to the next would be totally wrong.
This is not a Liverpool fc issue, it is a football one.
So do us all a favour, take your embarrassment onto another board where the ignorance on this matter continues to be rife
posted on 24/4/13
Nobody disputes that Suarez is wrong but to remain silent when the governing body change/bend the rules from one scenario to the next would be totally wrong.
--------
No it would be totally wrong to not act and therefore not show they were wrong the first time. They have every right to change the punishment to make it suitable for the quite frankly insanity shown on the pitch.
Diving wasn't carded at one point in the game. Should they have remained consistent for the future and never card for simulation? I hope they make an example out of Suarez, not because he is a Liverpool player or because he bit won of our meatiest players but because as an human, adult and "professional" this sort of thing is an embarrassment to the sport and people in general. A grown man biting another grown man...and without consent!!
posted on 24/4/13
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posted on 24/4/13
No it would be totally wrong to not act and therefore not show they were wrong the first time
...
They have acted. They have banned him for violent misconduct - which it is.
This heavily outweighs the punishment handed down to Defoe for the exact same offence.
What i can't fathom on these boards is why everyone is now saying 'oh, well we probably got the Defoe one wrong'. This wasn't the general consensus at the time. It just seems to help shape the witchhunt
Your problem is that you think violent conduct should be structured, e.g a kick being less severe than a punch or a punch being less severe than a headbutt. Now a bite being worse than headbutt. That's not the way to deal with it. Gary Neville summed it up perfectly when he spoke about this being a cultural thing.
We're british and we're tough, only headbutts allowed etc
posted on 24/4/13
The other things are acts within the game. Dangerous acts and potentially dirty but not out of the human behavior expected from not only professional athletes but just humans in general who are above 2 yrs old.
I don't even consider this violent conduct. They just had to label it something. This is animalistic. What if Ivanovic had a marathon of the walking dead the night before. It could've lead to Suarez's head being ripped off. It's for his safety as well as others.
As an athlete you will take a heavy challenge as part of the game. A wondering elbow, sure. You won't be happy and will look to retaliate most likely....but a bite? Come on. It's indefensible. End of.
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