ade has to start on wednesday.
So Ade's a much better option than Defoe
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For me, its not simply about who is better than who, but who compliments the team better from the start, until such a time we might look to make changes.
And on this basis, i feel Ade gives us that better balance, plus i think Defoe is more useful from the bench later in the game (than Ade).
Its not always about a direct comparison of who is better than who.
"For me, its not simply about who is better than who, but who compliments the team better from the start"
That is Defoe then. He often says nice things about the team.
Tom Carrol and Dempsey have to start in the midfield Wednesday
THudd,
Where does that leave Livermore? He has to start instead of Lennon, Bale, Dembele, Parker, Dempesy, Siggy, Holtby and Huds, for sure.
the ones which express a different opinion to your own ?
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No the ones where it's suggested to play a youngster instead of an established PL midfielder based on a couple of 20 minute appearances.
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Same difference isn't it ? The article sets out a detailed argument as to why carroll should be in the team, but you chose not to read the argument because based on the factors you've considered, you don't think he should be in the team.
comment by Chicken_ (U1043)
posted 2 minutes ago
THudd,
Where does that leave Livermore? He has to start instead of Lennon, Bale, Dembele, Parker, Dempesy, Siggy, Holtby and Huds, for sure.
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on the transfer list
Livermore has to start with Dempey and Carroll
Bentley as emergency left back signing
Would be funny if an injury plague meant Fryers had to start at LB.
Defoe's work ethic needs to be combined with a few brain cells and the ability to look up.
He will bounce off the Chelsea defense and will be a complete anonymity on the pitch, i am pretty sure of that sadly
Ade to start for me "
Well atleast the ball wn't bounce off him like Ade. Sorry but aleast with Defoe you know there is a great chance of him getting a goal from nothing. Adebayor most likely wont score because he just dosen't shoot. Please tell me what use he is?
Same difference isn't it ? The article sets out a detailed argument as to why carroll should be in the team, but you chose not to read the argument because based on the factors you've considered, you don't think he should be in the team.
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Because it's absolute madness. Three more games and the season is over and you want to start experimenting?
I don't mind seeing Carroll play in a Capital One Cup, some EL games and even a couple of 20 minute appearances in the PL but there is no way he should start against Chelsea in the most important game of the season.
Don,
I agree that Defoe has the bigger goal threat individually but i think we, as a team, have a bigger threat on goal when Ade is on the pitch - for some reason i dont know - we just seem to score more and look like scoring more when he's in the team. And it is a team game.
Don,
Like Chicken, i think the team plays marginally better when the lone player up front is Ade and not Defoe. More team goals stem from Ade playing than Defoe (i imagine), and as its a team game i believe Ade should get the nod with Defoe providing firepower from the bench.
Defoe will just be running into their huge CBs all day long if he starts from KO. Better to have somebody playing that will look to get others involved, like Bale, from the beginning
Well atleast the ball wn't bounce off him like Ade. Sorry but aleast with Defoe you know there is a great chance of him getting a goal from nothing. Adebayor most likely wont score because he just dosen't shoot. Please tell me what use he is?
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ade is better for the team than defoe. not sure if you were watching defoe against wigan and southampton, don, but you could have had a lampost up top and had just as much out of it.
to be fair to him, not sure what we were playing it by pumping it long all day.
the performance against southampton was very, very poor by all (including Bale aside from his outstanding g oal)
Chronic
We, particularly in the first half, made S'ton look like the home team didnt we?
I just could not see a goal coming - not for us anyway.
Chicken. Said the same at the time and lots of people were saying the same thing. We looked and played like the away side. They are a decent side but we made them look really good
Yeh i agree with you all. Defoe was pants against Southampton and Wigan but then you need to look at the city game and look at Defoe's brilliant goal. Ci#ould you honestly see Adebayor picking the ball up like that and drilling it hard into the corner? No bloody chance. I get what your saying in terms of team playing better because Ade holds the ball up more but i still would pick Defoe upfront anytime of the week. I want to us score goals against Chelsea and Defoe offers so much more of a goal threat than Ade
Don,
That was Defoe's first goal in 14 appearances though, to be fair.
The issue is that we probably need to score 3 goals just to avoid defeat.
city game and look at Defoe's brilliant goal.
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when he came off the bench, buzzing and lively, and the game was stretched.
thats why you bring defoe on, and start ade.
I think we score more goals when Ade is in the team as the other players look to score themselves as Ade is never in the box, with Defoe playing the ball is usually played through to him when we are attacking as they know he will look to score, with Ade, players must look in the box, see no one there or Ade not making a run to the near or far post so they end up shooting themselves. I don't think Ade has assisted much at all this season. Yes he runs out wide and creates space, but lets be honest, even our players must know that theres more chance of Defoe scoring the Ade.
only thing im hoping is ade see's it as 'shop window' time......
and is hoping too get one last big money move..........!!!!
#actuallymorelikepraying
Don,
That was Defoe's first goal in 14 appearances though, to be fair."
Adebayor has scored 3 goals all season mate. You can't be negative about Defoes goal scoring in comparison to Ade this season
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posted on 7/5/13
ade has to start on wednesday.
posted on 7/5/13
So Ade's a much better option than Defoe
===================
For me, its not simply about who is better than who, but who compliments the team better from the start, until such a time we might look to make changes.
And on this basis, i feel Ade gives us that better balance, plus i think Defoe is more useful from the bench later in the game (than Ade).
Its not always about a direct comparison of who is better than who.
posted on 7/5/13
"For me, its not simply about who is better than who, but who compliments the team better from the start"
That is Defoe then. He often says nice things about the team.
posted on 7/5/13
Tom Carrol and Dempsey have to start in the midfield Wednesday
posted on 7/5/13
THudd,
Where does that leave Livermore? He has to start instead of Lennon, Bale, Dembele, Parker, Dempesy, Siggy, Holtby and Huds, for sure.
posted on 7/5/13
the ones which express a different opinion to your own ?
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No the ones where it's suggested to play a youngster instead of an established PL midfielder based on a couple of 20 minute appearances.
========================
Same difference isn't it ? The article sets out a detailed argument as to why carroll should be in the team, but you chose not to read the argument because based on the factors you've considered, you don't think he should be in the team.
posted on 7/5/13
comment by Chicken_ (U1043)
posted 2 minutes ago
THudd,
Where does that leave Livermore? He has to start instead of Lennon, Bale, Dembele, Parker, Dempesy, Siggy, Holtby and Huds, for sure.
---
on the transfer list
posted on 7/5/13
Livermore has to start with Dempey and Carroll
posted on 7/5/13
Bentley as emergency left back signing
posted on 7/5/13
Livermore can play LB
posted on 7/5/13
Would be funny if an injury plague meant Fryers had to start at LB.
posted on 7/5/13
Defoe's work ethic needs to be combined with a few brain cells and the ability to look up.
He will bounce off the Chelsea defense and will be a complete anonymity on the pitch, i am pretty sure of that sadly
Ade to start for me "
Well atleast the ball wn't bounce off him like Ade. Sorry but aleast with Defoe you know there is a great chance of him getting a goal from nothing. Adebayor most likely wont score because he just dosen't shoot. Please tell me what use he is?
posted on 7/5/13
Same difference isn't it ? The article sets out a detailed argument as to why carroll should be in the team, but you chose not to read the argument because based on the factors you've considered, you don't think he should be in the team.
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Because it's absolute madness. Three more games and the season is over and you want to start experimenting?
I don't mind seeing Carroll play in a Capital One Cup, some EL games and even a couple of 20 minute appearances in the PL but there is no way he should start against Chelsea in the most important game of the season.
posted on 7/5/13
Don,
I agree that Defoe has the bigger goal threat individually but i think we, as a team, have a bigger threat on goal when Ade is on the pitch - for some reason i dont know - we just seem to score more and look like scoring more when he's in the team. And it is a team game.
posted on 7/5/13
Don,
Like Chicken, i think the team plays marginally better when the lone player up front is Ade and not Defoe. More team goals stem from Ade playing than Defoe (i imagine), and as its a team game i believe Ade should get the nod with Defoe providing firepower from the bench.
Defoe will just be running into their huge CBs all day long if he starts from KO. Better to have somebody playing that will look to get others involved, like Bale, from the beginning
posted on 7/5/13
Well atleast the ball wn't bounce off him like Ade. Sorry but aleast with Defoe you know there is a great chance of him getting a goal from nothing. Adebayor most likely wont score because he just dosen't shoot. Please tell me what use he is?
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ade is better for the team than defoe. not sure if you were watching defoe against wigan and southampton, don, but you could have had a lampost up top and had just as much out of it.
to be fair to him, not sure what we were playing it by pumping it long all day.
the performance against southampton was very, very poor by all (including Bale aside from his outstanding g oal)
posted on 7/5/13
Chronic
We, particularly in the first half, made S'ton look like the home team didnt we?
I just could not see a goal coming - not for us anyway.
posted on 7/5/13
Chicken. Said the same at the time and lots of people were saying the same thing. We looked and played like the away side. They are a decent side but we made them look really good
posted on 7/5/13
Yeh i agree with you all. Defoe was pants against Southampton and Wigan but then you need to look at the city game and look at Defoe's brilliant goal. Ci#ould you honestly see Adebayor picking the ball up like that and drilling it hard into the corner? No bloody chance. I get what your saying in terms of team playing better because Ade holds the ball up more but i still would pick Defoe upfront anytime of the week. I want to us score goals against Chelsea and Defoe offers so much more of a goal threat than Ade
posted on 7/5/13
Don,
That was Defoe's first goal in 14 appearances though, to be fair.
posted on 7/5/13
The issue is that we probably need to score 3 goals just to avoid defeat.
posted on 7/5/13
city game and look at Defoe's brilliant goal.
-------
when he came off the bench, buzzing and lively, and the game was stretched.
thats why you bring defoe on, and start ade.
posted on 7/5/13
I think we score more goals when Ade is in the team as the other players look to score themselves as Ade is never in the box, with Defoe playing the ball is usually played through to him when we are attacking as they know he will look to score, with Ade, players must look in the box, see no one there or Ade not making a run to the near or far post so they end up shooting themselves. I don't think Ade has assisted much at all this season. Yes he runs out wide and creates space, but lets be honest, even our players must know that theres more chance of Defoe scoring the Ade.
posted on 7/5/13
only thing im hoping is ade see's it as 'shop window' time......
and is hoping too get one last big money move..........!!!!
#actuallymorelikepraying
posted on 7/5/13
Don,
That was Defoe's first goal in 14 appearances though, to be fair."
Adebayor has scored 3 goals all season mate. You can't be negative about Defoes goal scoring in comparison to Ade this season
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