With it being Fergie's last match 'holding the hairdryer' the United players will be up for a big win to send him on his way. I just hope we're not on the wrong end of a whupping !
Thus, it is important we get something out of the Norwich game and cement 8th place - don't want to finish below the Swans or West Ham !
COYB
Excellent season for you guys!
That being said I do hope we blow you away in the final game for SAF, or at the very least a thrilling spectacle. There would be nothing worse than him going out with a rubbish game of football.
If we do blow 8th place we'll only have ourselves to blame. The away loss to Reading was criminal and still rankles.
Cheers Arab.
Should be a great day all round. A historic moment for sure and the whole World will be watching so I hope it's a cracking game (that we win )
I think we'll get the points we need at Norwich.
I'm going, can't wait
Cr@p theme this year though.
JH you almost had me until you snuck that bit in brackets
What are your hopes for building on this next season?
Progress only gets more and more challenging from here on in.
I'm a realist. League wise, this is as good as it gets being an Albion fan. We're never going to crack the CL spots and even top 6 looks Worlds away.
For me, being the 'best of the rest'.....makes me happy.
I tell you what though. Offer me 17th place and a cup final next season and if snap off your hand
Are you coming to the Hawthorns for our match Arab? People are offering silly money for my ST.
What's your thoughts on the whole retirement and Moyes replacing him?
I wish JH, I wish. Sadly my goodbyes will be from afar!
I think that is probably Albion's best bet, don't sacrifice the league (you haven't even had time to get bored of being mid table yet) but the cups are where you can get the most success...
I imagine you are all just pleased not to be the best example of a yo yo club anymore. You were my definition for a while!
SAF leaving is absolutely devastating, even if I could now we will go on to be even more successful without him it wouldn't help. It is almost past description...
Even though he isn't gone (I will cry my eyes out that day) it is almost like losing a family member, it is something that has been there as a constant but is then gone.
Not quite on the same level (though some 3rd cousin you never met isn't either) but the closest I can come up with...
Wasn't overwhelmed with Moyes at first but I think it is something of a statement from Manchester United going for him over some flashy foreign name..
He is in many ways quite similar to SAF and he would love to try and build a legacy here and I am very excited to see if he can do it.
I am willing to go without trophies for a few years whilst he settles in. As long as he can keep us around the top 4.
Stability and an attitude which I think Moyes and SAF share has kept us where we are for a while (obviously other factors as well, not the riches of City or Chelsea but clearly we have had well more resources than you guys and a lot of other teams in the league)
Sorry for the ramble... once I get going...
No, it's good to get a proper United fans view on things.
Fergie has been at United longer than I have been alive. When I think about United, I think of Fergie. It's going to be weird seeing United 'Fergieless'
See what you mean about Moyes being 'Fergie like' aswell.
Time will tell what brings.
Back to us,
2010/11 - 11th
2011/12 - 10th
2013/13 - ? (On course for 8th/9th)
It's safe to say our 'yo yo' days are long gone.
See what you mean about Moyes being 'Fergie like' aswell.
...................................
I think that was one of the big selling points, something that is a little different from your Mourinho's and it is something I support even if I may have been leaning more towards Mou to start with.
You have done very well, some good managerial appointments combined with a few good purchases and you look pretty stable. Have usually been a club sensible with your money so always a little bit to put towards new players...
Midtable is dangerous though, a thin squad suffering a few key injuries, a restless fan base and maybe a manager under pressure it can change very quickly season to season...
Though doing a Newcastle of last season is also a possibility...
BTW what do you think of Odem, he has been an idiot no doubt, United fans would treat him far worse I think but I can't help feeling a little sorry for him and thinking he could still be useful for you if you don't get a decent offer in...
Sometimes it is worth burying the grudge... I am a lot more forgiving than most football fans though.
I can't wait 'til Odem is out of this club for good. He has disrespected this club enough.
I actually detest even talking about him now. This whole thing happened in January, yet it is still getting the headlines over our great season.
I'm torn between the two of you. He's one of the best footballers at the club and is valuable, but only if his head's right, and it isn't. I think most of us could forgive him his drive down to QPR on 31 January, but his later Twitter rants have probably done for him. He has disrespected the fans and the club twice now and it's hard to see how he can stay. Major repairs to be done, including to his career.
Anyway, on to Norwich. Early start for me just to get to The Hawthorns for the coach. Not sure what the theme is - Belgian flags for Lukaku?
aries I did kind of forget about the tweeting as well, I think the ill advised trip to QPR alone could have forgivable..
He is a talented player though and at the very least you want to give off the impression that you want to keep him so you can get some money off him. Not that it will be a huge amount he is getting on...
SAF, thanks for the positive comments. I think Steve Clarke's position is that he does value Odemwingie as a member of the squad and he just wants to get on with managing that squad without interference from the fans or Adrian Chiles, and our chairman Jeremy Peace is always careful, or tries to be, when it comes to protecting players' values. As we got him for about £2.5 million (although the fee has never been officially disclosed), for what he's contributed in three seasons he owes us practically nothing - just respect for the fans and for the club. If we're offered £1.5 million for him, we might take it.
If we keep him and if our first game next season is an away match and if he gets a hat-trick, then who knows.............
just wants to get on with managing that squad without interference from the fans or Adrian Chiles
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You can understand the fans getting on his back and United fans would probably be twice as bad so I am not saying we are somehow better..... but it really would help the club if the fans could forgive him.
I was going to say Chiles should know better, he probably doesn't though but any with his position of power to talk on behalf of West Brom fans (whether you like it or not he does somewhat represent the fanbase to those who might not know any other WBA fans) should be much more careful in what they say...
He can do a little good work in terms of helping your club but it is quite easy for him to do a lot more harm than good in his position.
Why did it all start, is it a lack of games?
I have been reading he was even willing to put up about £700,000 of his own money towards the transfer, assuming that is true and that he didn't think QPR was a step up (which you would assume) I guess it must have only been about the football?
SAF, I've said on another thread that Adrian Chiles is a de facto representative of Albion, and if he'd put bit more diplomatic thought into changing "tweet of the year" to "twit of the year" instead of "twát", even Steve Clarke couldn't have disagreed with that.
Why did it all start with Odemwingie? He claims lack of games and being played out of position, Roy Hodgson having digs at him over making himself unavailable for games due to supposed ankle injuries where none had previously been reported, and the failure of the board to accept Odemwingie's subsequent "decision" to leave the club.
I think after his first successful season under Roberto di Matteo, and then THAT hat-trick against Wolves last year under Roy Hodgson, he'd lost top-dog status when first Shane Long and then Romelu Lukaku arrived, and Steve Clarke quite rightly and openly rotated with different forward-line permutations.
But look at Shane Long. He works his socks off and accepts this rotation, and he's started scoring again. He's a model professional and the fans see that.
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posted on 10/5/13
With it being Fergie's last match 'holding the hairdryer' the United players will be up for a big win to send him on his way. I just hope we're not on the wrong end of a whupping !
Thus, it is important we get something out of the Norwich game and cement 8th place - don't want to finish below the Swans or West Ham !
COYB
posted on 10/5/13
Excellent season for you guys!
That being said I do hope we blow you away in the final game for SAF, or at the very least a thrilling spectacle. There would be nothing worse than him going out with a rubbish game of football.
posted on 10/5/13
If we do blow 8th place we'll only have ourselves to blame. The away loss to Reading was criminal and still rankles.
posted on 10/5/13
Cheers Arab.
Should be a great day all round. A historic moment for sure and the whole World will be watching so I hope it's a cracking game (that we win )
posted on 10/5/13
I think we'll get the points we need at Norwich.
I'm going, can't wait
Cr@p theme this year though.
posted on 10/5/13
JH you almost had me until you snuck that bit in brackets
What are your hopes for building on this next season?
Progress only gets more and more challenging from here on in.
posted on 10/5/13
I'm a realist. League wise, this is as good as it gets being an Albion fan. We're never going to crack the CL spots and even top 6 looks Worlds away.
For me, being the 'best of the rest'.....makes me happy.
I tell you what though. Offer me 17th place and a cup final next season and if snap off your hand
Are you coming to the Hawthorns for our match Arab? People are offering silly money for my ST.
What's your thoughts on the whole retirement and Moyes replacing him?
posted on 10/5/13
I wish JH, I wish. Sadly my goodbyes will be from afar!
I think that is probably Albion's best bet, don't sacrifice the league (you haven't even had time to get bored of being mid table yet) but the cups are where you can get the most success...
I imagine you are all just pleased not to be the best example of a yo yo club anymore. You were my definition for a while!
SAF leaving is absolutely devastating, even if I could now we will go on to be even more successful without him it wouldn't help. It is almost past description...
Even though he isn't gone (I will cry my eyes out that day) it is almost like losing a family member, it is something that has been there as a constant but is then gone.
Not quite on the same level (though some 3rd cousin you never met isn't either) but the closest I can come up with...
Wasn't overwhelmed with Moyes at first but I think it is something of a statement from Manchester United going for him over some flashy foreign name..
He is in many ways quite similar to SAF and he would love to try and build a legacy here and I am very excited to see if he can do it.
I am willing to go without trophies for a few years whilst he settles in. As long as he can keep us around the top 4.
Stability and an attitude which I think Moyes and SAF share has kept us where we are for a while (obviously other factors as well, not the riches of City or Chelsea but clearly we have had well more resources than you guys and a lot of other teams in the league)
Sorry for the ramble... once I get going...
posted on 10/5/13
No, it's good to get a proper United fans view on things.
Fergie has been at United longer than I have been alive. When I think about United, I think of Fergie. It's going to be weird seeing United 'Fergieless'
See what you mean about Moyes being 'Fergie like' aswell.
Time will tell what brings.
posted on 10/5/13
Back to us,
2010/11 - 11th
2011/12 - 10th
2013/13 - ? (On course for 8th/9th)
It's safe to say our 'yo yo' days are long gone.
posted on 10/5/13
See what you mean about Moyes being 'Fergie like' aswell.
...................................
I think that was one of the big selling points, something that is a little different from your Mourinho's and it is something I support even if I may have been leaning more towards Mou to start with.
You have done very well, some good managerial appointments combined with a few good purchases and you look pretty stable. Have usually been a club sensible with your money so always a little bit to put towards new players...
Midtable is dangerous though, a thin squad suffering a few key injuries, a restless fan base and maybe a manager under pressure it can change very quickly season to season...
Though doing a Newcastle of last season is also a possibility...
BTW what do you think of Odem, he has been an idiot no doubt, United fans would treat him far worse I think but I can't help feeling a little sorry for him and thinking he could still be useful for you if you don't get a decent offer in...
Sometimes it is worth burying the grudge... I am a lot more forgiving than most football fans though.
posted on 10/5/13
I can't wait 'til Odem is out of this club for good. He has disrespected this club enough.
I actually detest even talking about him now. This whole thing happened in January, yet it is still getting the headlines over our great season.
posted on 11/5/13
I'm torn between the two of you. He's one of the best footballers at the club and is valuable, but only if his head's right, and it isn't. I think most of us could forgive him his drive down to QPR on 31 January, but his later Twitter rants have probably done for him. He has disrespected the fans and the club twice now and it's hard to see how he can stay. Major repairs to be done, including to his career.
posted on 11/5/13
Anyway, on to Norwich. Early start for me just to get to The Hawthorns for the coach. Not sure what the theme is - Belgian flags for Lukaku?
posted on 11/5/13
aries I did kind of forget about the tweeting as well, I think the ill advised trip to QPR alone could have forgivable..
He is a talented player though and at the very least you want to give off the impression that you want to keep him so you can get some money off him. Not that it will be a huge amount he is getting on...
posted on 11/5/13
SAF, thanks for the positive comments. I think Steve Clarke's position is that he does value Odemwingie as a member of the squad and he just wants to get on with managing that squad without interference from the fans or Adrian Chiles, and our chairman Jeremy Peace is always careful, or tries to be, when it comes to protecting players' values. As we got him for about £2.5 million (although the fee has never been officially disclosed), for what he's contributed in three seasons he owes us practically nothing - just respect for the fans and for the club. If we're offered £1.5 million for him, we might take it.
If we keep him and if our first game next season is an away match and if he gets a hat-trick, then who knows.............
posted on 11/5/13
just wants to get on with managing that squad without interference from the fans or Adrian Chiles
...............................................
You can understand the fans getting on his back and United fans would probably be twice as bad so I am not saying we are somehow better..... but it really would help the club if the fans could forgive him.
I was going to say Chiles should know better, he probably doesn't though but any with his position of power to talk on behalf of West Brom fans (whether you like it or not he does somewhat represent the fanbase to those who might not know any other WBA fans) should be much more careful in what they say...
He can do a little good work in terms of helping your club but it is quite easy for him to do a lot more harm than good in his position.
Why did it all start, is it a lack of games?
I have been reading he was even willing to put up about £700,000 of his own money towards the transfer, assuming that is true and that he didn't think QPR was a step up (which you would assume) I guess it must have only been about the football?
posted on 11/5/13
SAF, I've said on another thread that Adrian Chiles is a de facto representative of Albion, and if he'd put bit more diplomatic thought into changing "tweet of the year" to "twit of the year" instead of "twát", even Steve Clarke couldn't have disagreed with that.
Why did it all start with Odemwingie? He claims lack of games and being played out of position, Roy Hodgson having digs at him over making himself unavailable for games due to supposed ankle injuries where none had previously been reported, and the failure of the board to accept Odemwingie's subsequent "decision" to leave the club.
I think after his first successful season under Roberto di Matteo, and then THAT hat-trick against Wolves last year under Roy Hodgson, he'd lost top-dog status when first Shane Long and then Romelu Lukaku arrived, and Steve Clarke quite rightly and openly rotated with different forward-line permutations.
But look at Shane Long. He works his socks off and accepts this rotation, and he's started scoring again. He's a model professional and the fans see that.
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