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Kimi: Perez Punch Punishment

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posted on 26/5/13

What a moron, Perez was doing nothing wrong, so what if he's breaking later nothing wrong in that as he could stop before the chicane.

Kimi would of known Perez would be coming down that side and moved over quite late.

posted on 27/5/13

Are you actually having a laugh? The general rule is that if a overtaking car (Perez) is more than half a car length up the inside of the car defending whilst going into a corner (Raikkonen), then the overtaking car gets the advantage that the proper behaviour is for the defending car to allow a car's width of room!

Perez in this instance (contrasting to the Button overtake) was nowhere near half way up the side of Raikkonen in which case he was entirely at fault for the contact with the wall and the blame for the incident was extremely limited to Raikkonen's part!

Have you been watching F1 since Monza 2011? Schumacher tried that with Hamilton going into the 'Curve Grande' only for the rule to be made more clearly to the current grid.

posted on 27/5/13

By the way that was aimed at U10416 for clarification

posted on 27/5/13

20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.
For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a 'significant portion'.

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations/8683/fia.html

posted on 27/5/13

According to 20.4 Perez did nothing wrong then

posted on 27/5/13

I think the problem with Perez yesterday was that he was relying heavily on those who he was trying to pass, to move out of the way. It works with Button and with Alonso who was looking to bring the car home in the points, but eventually you are going to run out of luck. At which point, you have no right to moan.

Grosjean and Maldonado (who was more at fault yesterday than being reported, although it was simply an accident) are a completely different 'life is a computer game' kettle of fish.

posted on 27/5/13

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posted on 27/5/13

Kimi is an absolute legend. Even as an Alonso fan i thought Perez's overtake attempt on him was quality but against Kimi he pushed to far. Then having the audacity to blame kimi for it is rather ridiculous in my opinion.

posted on 27/5/13

Fair play to Perez for trying. I can understand why Kimi was upset but come on, no guts no glory

posted on 27/5/13

The thing is, he had to commit to it way before he got alongside and after he had Kimi closed the space. Racing incident, one which they both lost heavily from. Personally I enjoyed the drive from Perez yesterday, the kid is fighting for his career.

posted on 27/5/13

Reckon Perez has got a good future in F1, he's constantly improving

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

Perez said: "Kimi put me straight in the wall at the entry to the corner."

Perez said: "Kimi did not give me any room at all. I touched the wall on the entry to the corner and I had no room for that."

As far as I am aware Perez was not half a car length alongside Kimi. Kimi was taking his line into the corner and Perez expected Kimi to let him through or cause a collison it appears?

That gap was always closing, Perez may be aggressive but also completely unrealistic

For me - on that occasion it was dangerous driving from Perez that could have caused a multi-shunt

posted on 27/5/13

Perez did break as soon as he saw Kimi come across and locked his wheels, Kimi should of known better and knew he would be coming down that side.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kimi thought no damage would come to his car by squeezing Perez like that, he was equally aggressive imo.

posted on 27/5/13

I think Mclaren need to take Perez aside and tell him that if he needs to calm down a bit once he's out on track. I get that their wanted him to show his race craft but picking up silly fights that aren't gonna end well shows his lack of experience.

To begin with he was to far back to make that overtake work and Kimi was already heading into the corner before seeing Perez coming by.

posted on 27/5/13

I would like to see the chicane following the tunnel to be removed and made into a longer straight for overtaking.

posted on 27/5/13

Kimi left the door open then closed it at the last minute giving Perez no time to slow down, mistakes on both sides.

Normal race Perez would of just gone on the grass or something as seen in many races where drivers are squeezed but at Monaco there's no where to go so the move looks a lot worse.

posted on 27/5/13

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comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

I don't think there was a door to close - Raikkonen looked like he was taking the usual line into the chicane and there was never going to be the space there for another car on the inside - basically if Raikkonen leaves the space then Raikkonen has to cut the chicane and I assume take a penalty.

It's probably half a dozen of one and half a dozen of another. But as I say I like a bit of aggresion - I can'yt know that. But no way imo was Perez in an overtaking position where he had the right of way. That gap (if it was a gap) was always going to rapidly close - he just stuck his nose in hoping that Raikkonen would let him through.

A difference for me between being aggresive where an overtake is possible - and being overly optimistic and expecting another car to somehow disappear from infront of him.

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

I can'yt know that = I can't deny that

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

Just had another look at it - Perez's front wheels aren't even in line with Kimi's rear wheels as he pushes his nose down the inside - for me Perez has to pull out of the move (if he can).

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

That's not even aggression - that's actually bad driving

Like the guy tho

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

Infact you can actually see that Kimi is turning in before Perez makes his move

posted on 27/5/13

comment by That Boy Ronaldo (U13520)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
I would like to see the chicane following the tunnel to be removed and made into a longer straight for overtaking.
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Like that idea.

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 27/5/13

I agree - not a fan of that chicane

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