jacko, I was heavy legged last night....the final bottle of red did it for me..
added to a 6 course meal and "some lager" I was not "up to my normal game"...
maybe the town lads were on holiday in thr next village to me before turning up for a pre season "kickabout"...
we have been sh-t in pre season before and done ok..we have also been excellent in pre season before and had a sh-t season..
don't worry too much..it may well give robins a stronger hand when looking to deano to bring in players?????

heatwave at home?????

its 33/34 here every day in summer, no one complains...

Jacko,

Why do you keep up this nonsense of repeating "Deano Out"

Dean Hoyle has already done far more for Town than any other previous owner for many a long year, and has reputedly pumped in £17 million of his own money and got us back into the second tier of English football.

He's also seen the development of Canalside and acquired the services of one of the countries best up & coming managers in Mark Robins, so what do you keep carping on about, because pre-season friendly results mean absolutely sweet FA.

Trust Hoyle and Robins next season, because we'll end up with 68 points at the very least.

Mark my words.

Keep it up Jacko OIL ART

pumped in a load a brass .....! I should think he has, he has plenty, that aside,
He has also allowed the Rhodes affair to happen even though he said nothing like the 'Stewart' incident under Bruce would never happen again.

Always calling for the crowd to be the 12th man, yet making sure that there is very little prospect of that happening under his tenure..mind you, If you are all happy turning out to watch games at 'Smithies Owd McAlpines Pharm' & the match day experience that provides..go for it, But definitely count me OUT.

Mirf, I'd rather come round & cut your grass than support the present 'htfc-inc' regime

Darn,

When someone comes a knocking on your door and offers you £8 million for a player operating in League One, who had also made it known he wanted out, I can't think of another Manager, or club owner, who wouldn't have snapped their hands off.

As for the atmosphere, if teams give the crowd something to shout about, they will irrespective of whether they are stood on terraces, or sat on their R'ses in the stand.

If you don't want to support the present "htfc-inc" regime, then you can always revert back to supporting the boring "shaymen" who have never won a f-cking sausage.

Mirf...it's a bit tongue in cheek tbh, We've had a 6 weeks pre-season training program which was described as being 'intense', we've had a training camp in Spain for bonding and further training, we've had all summer to sort out players and tactics for the season starting in less than 3 weeks...and in the two trial games we've had against lower league opposition we've not only failed to win, but according to Robins himself we've been poor....

Ok, it's only pre-season I accept....but surely if Robins has a master plan for 2013/14, there is little evidence of it to date.

In addition, I might add, the new recruits we've made...Hammill, Vaughan, Stead, .all ex players/loanees...yet we had a scouting trip to Europe which has delivered nothing, we have scouts around the UK, which has delivered nothing ...all Robins has done thus far is bring in players he already knows...

Are we expecting to compete next season with the existing squad..or are we going to have some last minute loanees again to make up the numbers...loanees who have not been part of the pre-season training/coaching plan, not part of the 'bonding' in Spain ....not part of any pre-season stuff but likely as not to take the places of the lads who have .

Where are Robins key transfer targets, those who are going to take the team up a notch from last season, where is the money Deano pledged for Robins to bring in new recruits...?

I bet the atmosphere is rocking down the Shay every week!

£17million Mirf, that's way under estimate as he'd spent that before we even got a promotion.

As for pre season...who gives a ....

Jacko, where is the money Dean pledged?

Vaughan will be a deal structured to be around the £1million mark with most of that up front. Add on that he is our highest paid player in the club by a considerable margin.
Jon Stead might have been a free but you don't get to pay him peanuts in return the same goes for Martin Paterson.

Big improvement on the Chesterfield result

P.S. Posh 1-0 QPR

Get out Thorney. The stench of League One burns my nostrils worse than a bottle of Sexpanther

Jacko,

You should know that when non-league teams face full time professionals, that they will die for cause in an effort to lower their colours, that's why results in such pre-season friendlies are meaningless and no guide as to what might happen once the season starts in earnest.

I was at Upton Park on the 3rd January 1998 when little Emley from the Unibond league, took on mighty West Ham from the Premiership, who fielded such players as Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard, David Unsworth, Eyal Berkovik & John Hartson etc. They were then managed by Harry Redknapp, who later admitted that they were very fortunate to score an 82 minutes winner to save the day.

So read into the outcome of such friendlies whatever way you wish, because come the start of the season most Pro teams are usual up for the challenges ahead and in Town's case, I'm anticipating ending up with around 68 points and on the fringe of the play-off's, come next May.

...Mirf !

Would I 'win' a sausage if I cut your grass then ?

Hey Wakey

I don't know about the atmosphere rocking darn at the Shay....
But I do know 1st hand, It's rock BOTTON at the 'Pharm

Botton - Bottom-Rotten....
Is that like using your 'get out of gaol free card

cant go back over the Rhodes deal..
there is not a club in the land outside the premier league who wouldn't have gone with the first Fulham bid of 4 million.. never mind ignoring the 5 then 6 million bid from a clearly deranged board at Blackburn..
dean held firm, I be Rhodes his agent and his dad had already been forcefully in deans ear(I don't want to stay, he wont play properly etc etc etc) as soon as the first bid was made...
8 million was and still is , very silly money for Rhodes and I have no comment other than, well done dean about it..
speaking with an acquaintance, who is a very well respected and used accountant, he says he knows of 5 clubs in our league who are within a "nats nuts" (his words) of administration, but who are stillborrowing to buy players and pay wages that they cannot(without promotion) cover in a million years..
Keep at the good work deano, this season and the first 6 months of next season will see some serious "casualties" who cannot be then "saved" by pretence of bankruptcy and sell the "jack all" they have left to a new benefactor..they will fall...
I was truly shocked at what I found out and I was a true cynic beforehand...
I once said "football will eat itself", from what I learned its just on the last few crumbs now at a lot of clubs...

Football is well and truly on its way to a rear end collapse.
It's ok the Premier League shouting from the rooftops about record tv deals but the fact is the game in this country hasn't got it finances in any order what so ever.
Even the latest compromise is a load of tosh. Clubs are allowed to lose millions(10s of millions at the top) and you don't get punished.
Just like Super League in RL the Premiership only has its own interests at heart. Once clubs in the top flight start to fold only then will they look at a proper reform on how we run clubs
Premiership football was the beginning of the end of football in this country If you ask me

I see the goal that York scored last night was down to none other than jack fookin hunt !!!!!!
New season same old problems . If I was town I would sell him for 50 quid before he's worth nothing .

8 million was and still is , very silly money for Rhodes and I have no comment other than, well done dean about it..
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Yea it is silly money but you have no chance of getting it all,£4 mill with laddered bits up to them having to win prem,well that's what a Blackburn fan said on twitter and he thought £4 to £5 mill will be most blackburn will end up paying as all goals have to be reached in next 4 yrs.still good money for player who had only done it at L1 level at the time.

Eh, what goals are these then?

The deal was something along the lines of
3million up front
2million in year 2
1.5million in year 3
1.5million in year 4
All of which are guaranteed payments

The only other part of the deal was a 20% sell on deal if and when it happens

Come on superwhites, I thought you'd have more sense than to believe anything said on twitter...especially from some Blackburn fan who won't know his ar-ehole from his earhole.

It's £8,000,000 GUARANTEED

towns accounts will show that 8 million is to be paid over a set amount of time..
the sell on clause of 20% was over the first 3 years of any deal that Rhodes had at Blackburn(looks like he will be sold in the next 4 weeks).
addendum also attached is full and final settlement of outstanding monies(including sell on fee) as soon as he is sold on(we might get the full sum in the next few weeks).. odds on deano thought this may well happen and factored it into his plans..
we may be much better off than we thought, much quicker....