Neon,
What in earth are you on about mate? 4 simple points to be made for the current ashes series;
1) DRS ain't the problem. The umpires incorrect use has been.
2) 90% of hotspots decisions have been spot on. The change of bats recently has meant that some bats have a protective coating, making it difficult for hotspot to pick this up. Work in progress
3) DRS still get 95% accurate decisions
4) DRS should only be used by players if they think a howler has been made, not 50/50 decisions which is what we are seeing more and more.
There is no way that India or any other team/ individual can use this ashes series to prove their point that Drs is not beneficial
12 test umpires and 8 are English or Australian....
The BCCI have bought the other 4 and the media to discredit the system
Hang your heads in shame you unbelievers.....
Afridi you have to agree that many have started raising their concerns of how good DRS is; Strauss today said that in this series we have had so much of DRS talk when focus should really be on the 22 players.
Gilchrist has already said that he he wants umpires call to be the final call.
And this is just a few of them. So many people whether on these blogs or in general have started to question whether DRS is taking the limelight away from the game and whether we should just have the traditional umpires decision as the final decision.
Sprinkler why would the BCCI do this? That is just some rotten thinking imo. Its not like ICC have said that we will have DRS whether or not BCCI approves it.
BCCI dont give a damn about what is happening in the ashes cause their stance of using the DRS will stay unchanged.
The only way BCCI could have benefited from whats happening in the ashes is if ICC forced DRS to be mandatory and BCCI could use this to counter their argument. And this is clearly not the case.
Afridi regarding howlers. I think khwaja decision which was given out- a very close call at the start and then changed to not out after tv replays was a bigger howler.
DRS should be used to correct howlers, but what we seen from this ashes is that some of the close calls, after being reviewed have been turned into howlers.
Just imagine in football after a goal is scored and then the referee says wait a second lads- we are checking if their was any fouls in the last 2 minutes or if there was any offsides. I know its a different sport all together and cant be compared but this is exactly whats happening with cricket. By the time the new batsman comes in the bowlers, the fans are all out of intensity.
Afridi - bat coverings have been used long before hotshot. Nothing new here.
There are fundamental flaws with it. Alec Stewart and Vaughan are asking for it to be removed (just to add an element of neutrality)
Sprinkler - stop it
Afridi - 98 percent of stats are made up... So plucking figures out of thin air
Like I said - the is an argument to withdraw from it.
Personally - I feel it takes something away from the game.. The excitement of the umpires finger going up, the celebration of taking a wicket, The pub banter etc.....
virudagreat,
A few ex-cricketers here and there may have expressed their sentiments againt DRS, but the fact is no country except India is currently opposed to DRS.
There are fundamental flaws with it. Alec Stewart and Vaughan are asking for it to be removed (just to add an element of neutrality)
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I had no idea about that. Very surprised.source?
DRS improves decisions. There is no doubting that.
The problem is with hot spot not showing up and incompetence from the third umpire there have not been as many overturned decisions as there should have been.
DRS is a good system being handled by morons right now. And even with morons in charge of it if gives another layer of protection from on field umpire howlers.
India's stance is bizzare.
Bale 100% agree its not DRS it the umpires not using the system correct the 3rd umpire in this series has been flucking pathetic
DRS will stay and agree India stance over this is crazy
They need to add snicko in drs. That would make these hot spot calls even better as it shows everything.
DRS is good but its not helped by stupid umpires trying to protect there own.
Did you see how well DRS worked just now?
It's a good system, just needs better understanding by the third ump.
When I read statements that DRS gets 90% or 95% calls right, I wonder what the basis is.
People who says that are giving 'positive predictive value'.
What is it validated against? Human eye? Botham's? Husain's? Or, that idiot pundit who sits at his home in pyjamas in front of telly and writes commentary for Cricinfo?
What is the basis to state that DRS has 95% positive predictive value? To what standard was it standardized?
Afridi - stats you have just mentioned.
The floor is yours sir.....
Pisss it off now, get back to umpires making the decision................it's making the game a joke.
Neon, no offence but next time you create an article at least have the decency to back up your sources. All you said was bbc- you got any quotes from Stewart and Vaughan saying we should abolish DRS??
As for your query- I'll take the floor
The referral may well system end in a few incorrect decisions, but according to ICC statistics the DRS leads to a correct decision rate of 97 percent, noticeably higher than the rate of 90 percent without it- here's proof!!
Ps, if you looked at the furst ashes test the umpires made a total of 72 decisions, which is "well above the average (49) for a DRS Test match".
The umpires were assessed too have made 7 mistakes, of which 4 were corrected by DRS, meaning the officicals got 90.3 percent of decisionss correct and this climbed to 96.8 percent as a result of the use of the review system!!!! There you go!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23645802
It was a very quick Google search
Disagree about Dr's getting everything right. Hawkeye - how do we know his accurate it is in predicting where the ball will end up? I'm questioning the technology itself.
Backing it with stats validated by the technology itself proves nothing.
Like I said.. It just takes too much away from the game itself. I'd rather umpires just make the call
If India is given the choice between DRS and Bucknor, which would you prefer?
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posted on 10/8/13
Neon,
What in earth are you on about mate? 4 simple points to be made for the current ashes series;
1) DRS ain't the problem. The umpires incorrect use has been.
2) 90% of hotspots decisions have been spot on. The change of bats recently has meant that some bats have a protective coating, making it difficult for hotspot to pick this up. Work in progress
3) DRS still get 95% accurate decisions
4) DRS should only be used by players if they think a howler has been made, not 50/50 decisions which is what we are seeing more and more.
There is no way that India or any other team/ individual can use this ashes series to prove their point that Drs is not beneficial
posted on 11/8/13
12 test umpires and 8 are English or Australian....
The BCCI have bought the other 4 and the media to discredit the system
Hang your heads in shame you unbelievers.....
posted on 11/8/13
Afridi you have to agree that many have started raising their concerns of how good DRS is; Strauss today said that in this series we have had so much of DRS talk when focus should really be on the 22 players.
Gilchrist has already said that he he wants umpires call to be the final call.
And this is just a few of them. So many people whether on these blogs or in general have started to question whether DRS is taking the limelight away from the game and whether we should just have the traditional umpires decision as the final decision.
posted on 11/8/13
Sprinkler why would the BCCI do this? That is just some rotten thinking imo. Its not like ICC have said that we will have DRS whether or not BCCI approves it.
BCCI dont give a damn about what is happening in the ashes cause their stance of using the DRS will stay unchanged.
The only way BCCI could have benefited from whats happening in the ashes is if ICC forced DRS to be mandatory and BCCI could use this to counter their argument. And this is clearly not the case.
posted on 11/8/13
Afridi regarding howlers. I think khwaja decision which was given out- a very close call at the start and then changed to not out after tv replays was a bigger howler.
DRS should be used to correct howlers, but what we seen from this ashes is that some of the close calls, after being reviewed have been turned into howlers.
Just imagine in football after a goal is scored and then the referee says wait a second lads- we are checking if their was any fouls in the last 2 minutes or if there was any offsides. I know its a different sport all together and cant be compared but this is exactly whats happening with cricket. By the time the new batsman comes in the bowlers, the fans are all out of intensity.
posted on 11/8/13
Afridi - bat coverings have been used long before hotshot. Nothing new here.
There are fundamental flaws with it. Alec Stewart and Vaughan are asking for it to be removed (just to add an element of neutrality)
Sprinkler - stop it
Afridi - 98 percent of stats are made up... So plucking figures out of thin air
posted on 11/8/13
Like I said - the is an argument to withdraw from it.
Personally - I feel it takes something away from the game.. The excitement of the umpires finger going up, the celebration of taking a wicket, The pub banter etc.....
posted on 11/8/13
virudagreat,
A few ex-cricketers here and there may have expressed their sentiments againt DRS, but the fact is no country except India is currently opposed to DRS.
posted on 11/8/13
There are fundamental flaws with it. Alec Stewart and Vaughan are asking for it to be removed (just to add an element of neutrality)
-------------------------------
I had no idea about that. Very surprised.source?
posted on 11/8/13
DRS improves decisions. There is no doubting that.
The problem is with hot spot not showing up and incompetence from the third umpire there have not been as many overturned decisions as there should have been.
DRS is a good system being handled by morons right now. And even with morons in charge of it if gives another layer of protection from on field umpire howlers.
India's stance is bizzare.
posted on 11/8/13
Bale 100% agree its not DRS it the umpires not using the system correct the 3rd umpire in this series has been flucking pathetic
DRS will stay and agree India stance over this is crazy
posted on 11/8/13
Afridi - BBC sport
posted on 11/8/13
They need to add snicko in drs. That would make these hot spot calls even better as it shows everything.
DRS is good but its not helped by stupid umpires trying to protect there own.
posted on 11/8/13
Did you see how well DRS worked just now?
It's a good system, just needs better understanding by the third ump.
posted on 11/8/13
When I read statements that DRS gets 90% or 95% calls right, I wonder what the basis is.
People who says that are giving 'positive predictive value'.
What is it validated against? Human eye? Botham's? Husain's? Or, that idiot pundit who sits at his home in pyjamas in front of telly and writes commentary for Cricinfo?
posted on 11/8/13
All of the above.
posted on 11/8/13
What is the basis to state that DRS has 95% positive predictive value? To what standard was it standardized?
posted on 11/8/13
Afridi - stats you have just mentioned.
The floor is yours sir.....
posted on 11/8/13
Pisss it off now, get back to umpires making the decision................it's making the game a joke.
posted on 11/8/13
Neon, no offence but next time you create an article at least have the decency to back up your sources. All you said was bbc- you got any quotes from Stewart and Vaughan saying we should abolish DRS??
As for your query- I'll take the floor
The referral may well system end in a few incorrect decisions, but according to ICC statistics the DRS leads to a correct decision rate of 97 percent, noticeably higher than the rate of 90 percent without it- here's proof!!
Ps, if you looked at the furst ashes test the umpires made a total of 72 decisions, which is "well above the average (49) for a DRS Test match".
The umpires were assessed too have made 7 mistakes, of which 4 were corrected by DRS, meaning the officicals got 90.3 percent of decisionss correct and this climbed to 96.8 percent as a result of the use of the review system!!!! There you go!!
posted on 11/8/13
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23645802
It was a very quick Google search
Disagree about Dr's getting everything right. Hawkeye - how do we know his accurate it is in predicting where the ball will end up? I'm questioning the technology itself.
Backing it with stats validated by the technology itself proves nothing.
Like I said.. It just takes too much away from the game itself. I'd rather umpires just make the call
posted on 12/8/13
If India is given the choice between DRS and Bucknor, which would you prefer?
posted on 12/8/13
Football
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