Have no time that man who sullied the Clough name from his fictional account, the 'damned utd' for a quick buck.
I remember Barbara (RIP) being particularly angry at Sir Brian's portrail.
He can jog on.
In my opinion the book 'Damned UTD' is a masterpiece....same as 'Provided You Don't Kiss Me'.
I know Clough joked about it but no-one is perfect.
Thanks for that Still.
I'm sure he meant no harm to the family when he wrote the book and I think they eventually accepted that it was fiction based on fact. I didn't enjoy the book because I found it very repetitive. I actually preferred the film which very rarely happens when books are made into films. Provided you don't kiss me is excellent.
Yeah, he spoke about how he regretted the Clough family not liking the book. But he did also point out the research he did - all of which I've also read. They were mainly Clough's own autobiography and other biographies, all of which pointed out how much he drank at how paranoid he was at the time he was at Leeds. and he also said that he was very surprised by how well it did, and that he didn't ever imagine so many people would read it. I think the family were upset because it didn't show how he went on to be a much more impressive manager than he was at Leeds. fair enough.
I'm with Oddball, I think it's an incredible book and don't think it sullies his name. I think it shows him as a fascinating character with more than one side. Which he definitely was.
Cannigia - Peace uses repetition as a writing tool. Some people love it and some hate it. I can see why people struggle with it but I find it hypnotic.
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I thought it was well known that I delete Derby fans whenever possible.
And to think the sheep let him go....
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Iwas - yes, I can cope with reasoned debate - when that is what you give I'll leave it up
It would just be nice to have the occasional post that didn't develop into the exact same thing after the first Derby comment.
Touché Iwas this what Spart did with me yesterday, deleting my comments!!!
Ha hah ah ha
Are you trying to say something Iwas?
oh never mind
it's not going to worth reading now is it?
He basically said the standard - ha ha Forest aren't as good as Derby, your owner lives in a place where there's camels, we're gonna finish in the top 6, Clough Out.
That's interesting about the writing technique. I can just remember it getting on my nerves but maybe I'll re read it and enjoy it more.
The book was okay.
The film was excellent. Primarily down to the excellence of Sheen, Spall and Graham (Clough, Taylor, and Bremner).
Very rarely see a movie as good as the book.
I'd love to see his take on the Forest years. Nigel probably wouldn't agree, though.
I don't think he'll write it - not as a novel anyway, but he will cover it in interviews etc. one of the most interesting football chats I've ever heard last night. They shuld get him on MOTD.
Yeh, some authors write with a kind of beat...just like music. Rushdie comes to mind.
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posted on 23/8/13
Have no time that man who sullied the Clough name from his fictional account, the 'damned utd' for a quick buck.
I remember Barbara (RIP) being particularly angry at Sir Brian's portrail.
He can jog on.
posted on 23/8/13
In my opinion the book 'Damned UTD' is a masterpiece....same as 'Provided You Don't Kiss Me'.
I know Clough joked about it but no-one is perfect.
Thanks for that Still.
posted on 23/8/13
I'm sure he meant no harm to the family when he wrote the book and I think they eventually accepted that it was fiction based on fact. I didn't enjoy the book because I found it very repetitive. I actually preferred the film which very rarely happens when books are made into films. Provided you don't kiss me is excellent.
posted on 23/8/13
Yeah, he spoke about how he regretted the Clough family not liking the book. But he did also point out the research he did - all of which I've also read. They were mainly Clough's own autobiography and other biographies, all of which pointed out how much he drank at how paranoid he was at the time he was at Leeds. and he also said that he was very surprised by how well it did, and that he didn't ever imagine so many people would read it. I think the family were upset because it didn't show how he went on to be a much more impressive manager than he was at Leeds. fair enough.
I'm with Oddball, I think it's an incredible book and don't think it sullies his name. I think it shows him as a fascinating character with more than one side. Which he definitely was.
Cannigia - Peace uses repetition as a writing tool. Some people love it and some hate it. I can see why people struggle with it but I find it hypnotic.
posted on 23/8/13
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posted on 23/8/13
I thought it was well known that I delete Derby fans whenever possible.
posted on 23/8/13
And to think the sheep let him go....
posted on 23/8/13
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posted on 23/8/13
Iwas - yes, I can cope with reasoned debate - when that is what you give I'll leave it up
posted on 23/8/13
GOTCHA
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posted on 23/8/13
You can keep that one
posted on 23/8/13
It would just be nice to have the occasional post that didn't develop into the exact same thing after the first Derby comment.
posted on 23/8/13
Touché Iwas this what Spart did with me yesterday, deleting my comments!!!
posted on 23/8/13
Ha hah ah ha
Are you trying to say something Iwas?
oh never mind
it's not going to worth reading now is it?
posted on 23/8/13
He basically said the standard - ha ha Forest aren't as good as Derby, your owner lives in a place where there's camels, we're gonna finish in the top 6, Clough Out.
posted on 23/8/13
That's interesting about the writing technique. I can just remember it getting on my nerves but maybe I'll re read it and enjoy it more.
posted on 23/8/13
The book was okay.
The film was excellent. Primarily down to the excellence of Sheen, Spall and Graham (Clough, Taylor, and Bremner).
Very rarely see a movie as good as the book.
posted on 23/8/13
I'd love to see his take on the Forest years. Nigel probably wouldn't agree, though.
posted on 24/8/13
I don't think he'll write it - not as a novel anyway, but he will cover it in interviews etc. one of the most interesting football chats I've ever heard last night. They shuld get him on MOTD.
posted on 26/8/13
Yeh, some authors write with a kind of beat...just like music. Rushdie comes to mind.
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