Gustavo has enjoyed 2 solid, solid seasons with Bayern, whilst doing really well in Brazil before he moved for £12m. Sandro is someone I never used to rate all that highly, but the more I see of him, the more I like, and he is a very good DM. We have different opinions, no point trying to debate over that

would want reus or tevez and a better replacement in any deal to sell marcelo, cant lose wc players without wc ones in returm

Anything for Llorente?

What do you class Llorente as? First Choice? Second Choice? Rotational player?

Depends who you are interested in from myteam anyway.

Moura is a player I have been using in deals to try and get better in other positions really so there might be something with him, Bonucci probably one of the best CB's in Italy at the moment and consistently performing well at Juventus so needs a top offer and Sahin another top player who needs a good replacement.

What sort of a deal would you be looking at with them 3 in mind?

I'd probably play Tevez in front of him as first hoice and I might even give Giovinco the nod as well at ST for 2nd choice as he is a proven goalscorer for Juventus up front at the moment. Depends what system you like playing.

To be fair I wouldn't really know what to offer atm. Depends how you rate Sandro? I think Sahin > Sandro overall but this season Sandro been outstanding depends what you like going by. Capoue interests me a little bit but I don't think I'd want to use Sahin for him.

Making a good point I suppose. Moura I can use maybe? Bonucci and Sahin wanting to keep a hold of for now.

Doumbia + Moura
=
Llorente + Herrmann

Change Herrmann to Firmino then? Moura on the way up at PSg in January and will be ahead of Pastore very soon and only 19 so always going to get stronger.

Your overrating him now.

Llorente >> Doumbia
Firmino << Moura

But Moura is going to France which is one the best leagues in Europe.

Firmino is playing at a club that is near the bottom of the German league though and going down by the looks of things.

Llorente not that valuable really. You are overrating him here. Saw you say he is near WC on LSTD's Liverpool page which he isn't.

The only reason he would be a good player for me is because I need a ST.

But Firmino isn't impressing at all in that team. Probably been one of the worst.

sold to Liverpool because of him
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Ahem, Ahem

nah i wouldnt be interested in that in all honesty, lisandro would be 3rd choice striker and i do prefer rio

and no, i also wouldnt have allowed temps to swap players between teams, but thats been set by other managers so i thought id use that to get a couple of players in that im really big fans of, the bit that annoyed me was 21 suggesting i purposefully rejected his offers because i wanted the player for myself, i explained why i rejected the offer, and nobody can say i brought schmelz to brum cheaply

for ben arfa, im not really sure, i plan on starting him so if i cant get a better wide replacement, id be looking at improving my XI in another position

Well I don't think he is impressing at all is he

Just forget it. Your turning this into an argument, oh look Llorente is a WC ST atm so why should I not get a player I want, and a much better player than Firmino who is on the rise and getting better every time he touches a ball! For the Striker I'm selling who is leaving at the EOS because he won't sign a contract and isn't doing anything special in a poor side! Work that one out.

Change Firmino to Douglas Costa then!! Preferably worse than Firmino. But 3 goals and 1 assist in 14 games I believe? Not the best ever is it.

Not a bad offer but want to keep Adrian and Moura but I am willing to do that if you change Adrian to Pazzini and take out Moura? I'll add 12M?

R.Alvarez + Arnautovic
for
Canales?

I'm happy to keep Canales, in addition, I don't need extra foreign players

Tried to con you there

Llorente + Botia + Munoz
=
Pazzini + Lovren + X (Who would X be?)

Don't want X to be extremely good really. Are you bothered about CB's or can it be somewhere else?

Forget it then.

You never shut up really do you. All you do when I try and make offers, ok, they may not be all you want but you never get that all the time do you. Your overrating Llorente saying he is 'not far off WC'. I'm giving you a first team player for a 2nd choice ST for you and a 3rd choice winger. All you do is critisize my offers. If it isn't a good deal for you then say, nope, can't do that, not a god deal, but why not try something along the lines of this:' instead of trying to make me look a idiot all the time?

Llorente + Firmino
=
Pazzini + Moura

Yes? Anything?

How about something similar to what you offered, but just a slight difference.

Llorente + Botia + Firmino
=
Pazzini + Lovren + Moura

Does it have to be Adrian to do the deal? I want to keep him right now really, but anyone else?