England fans are also arrogant for thinking that just turning up and winning in Ukraine should be some kind of expectation.
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Arrogance or ignorance? Most seem to be rather clueless as to what happens outside England tbh.
A draw is a good result.
the thing is you're right
an thats so depressing
Holland drew in Estonia last week (which cost me some serious bucks).
Yet some spoilt English fans will slate England if they draw in a tough Ukraine game.
comment by Sïr Dïgbÿ (U6039)
posted 13 seconds ago
Where as we keep losing these crucial matches with Milner playing.
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such as?
.......................
The thumping we got by the Germans in the last world cup springs imediately to mind.
What's funny about England fans is that they complain about how average our players are and then complain that we aren't beating teams like Ukraine and Poland comfortably.
Can't have it both ways. Basically these sides are on our level now.
Ten years ago you'd expect us to win these games comfortably but not anymore.
The thumping we got by the Germans in the last world cup springs imediately to mind.
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and since then? that was not just milners fault.
Germany thumped England not because of Milner but more because of the likes of Barry and Upson in the team and also a referee who was selective in his interpretation as to what a goal is.
poor attitudes on here frankly....
very poor
Yeah we knew we could beat teams like Ukraine and Montenegro because we bloody well could, but now we poo ourselves thinking that we're gonna get man handled to death by any one who can kick a ball.
Yet some spoilt English fans will slate England if they draw in a tough Ukraine game.
We slate england becuase the likes of milner get in the ENgland team for no apparant reason . We call up promising kids who look the part only for them to sit on the bench for "experience"
when payers like milner and cleverly who actually bring absolutely nothing to the table get played.
Its a joke
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
How many teams in Europe could expect a win as a matter of a 'given' in a match against a tough and in form Ukrainian side?
Spain and maybe Germany, that's all IMO.
Why England need to be bashed is something i'll never understand.
What the hell formation are we playing?
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
couldnt help a dig at liverpool could you
comment by Sïr Dïgbÿ (U6039)
posted 12 seconds ago
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
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wuming isn't allowed
4-6-0
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Ah, thought so.
Surely it doesn't matter who they play for?
Everyone keeps complaining about Welbeck and Cleverley but they play for top clubs.
4-2-3-1 with Milner on the left allowing Cole to bomb forward with defensive support.
I think Lampard is a de facto #10!
milner is the best option on the left, feed the rickie goal machine!
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posted on 10/9/13
Delete Darren
posted on 10/9/13
England fans are also arrogant for thinking that just turning up and winning in Ukraine should be some kind of expectation.
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Arrogance or ignorance? Most seem to be rather clueless as to what happens outside England tbh.
posted on 10/9/13
A draw is a good result.
the thing is you're right
an thats so depressing
posted on 10/9/13
Holland drew in Estonia last week (which cost me some serious bucks).
Yet some spoilt English fans will slate England if they draw in a tough Ukraine game.
posted on 10/9/13
Welbeck
posted on 10/9/13
comment by Sïr Dïgbÿ (U6039)
posted 13 seconds ago
Where as we keep losing these crucial matches with Milner playing.
-----------------------
such as?
.......................
The thumping we got by the Germans in the last world cup springs imediately to mind.
posted on 10/9/13
Milner to score
posted on 10/9/13
England should win 2-0
posted on 10/9/13
What's funny about England fans is that they complain about how average our players are and then complain that we aren't beating teams like Ukraine and Poland comfortably.
Can't have it both ways. Basically these sides are on our level now.
Ten years ago you'd expect us to win these games comfortably but not anymore.
posted on 10/9/13
The thumping we got by the Germans in the last world cup springs imediately to mind.
------------
and since then? that was not just milners fault.
posted on 10/9/13
Germany thumped England not because of Milner but more because of the likes of Barry and Upson in the team and also a referee who was selective in his interpretation as to what a goal is.
posted on 10/9/13
poor attitudes on here frankly....
very poor
posted on 10/9/13
Yeah we knew we could beat teams like Ukraine and Montenegro because we bloody well could, but now we poo ourselves thinking that we're gonna get man handled to death by any one who can kick a ball.
posted on 10/9/13
Yet some spoilt English fans will slate England if they draw in a tough Ukraine game.
We slate england becuase the likes of milner get in the ENgland team for no apparant reason . We call up promising kids who look the part only for them to sit on the bench for "experience"
when payers like milner and cleverly who actually bring absolutely nothing to the table get played.
Its a joke
posted on 10/9/13
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
posted on 10/9/13
How many teams in Europe could expect a win as a matter of a 'given' in a match against a tough and in form Ukrainian side?
Spain and maybe Germany, that's all IMO.
Why England need to be bashed is something i'll never understand.
posted on 10/9/13
What the hell formation are we playing?
posted on 10/9/13
4-6-0
posted on 10/9/13
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
couldnt help a dig at liverpool could you
posted on 10/9/13
comment by Sïr Dïgbÿ (U6039)
posted 12 seconds ago
all players we have fielded play for top clubs baring lambert and gerrard, we should not struggle on paper. something is going wrong
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wuming isn't allowed
posted on 10/9/13
what wumming?
posted on 10/9/13
4-6-0
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Ah, thought so.
posted on 10/9/13
Surely it doesn't matter who they play for?
Everyone keeps complaining about Welbeck and Cleverley but they play for top clubs.
posted on 10/9/13
4-2-3-1 with Milner on the left allowing Cole to bomb forward with defensive support.
I think Lampard is a de facto #10!
posted on 10/9/13
milner is the best option on the left, feed the rickie goal machine!
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