As a united fan I would have to say Ryan Giggs. I would be a very rich man if I had a pound for the amount of times I have heard 'uncharacteristic pass by giggs'
Have to disagree with vidic though. Yes he isn't as good as he was in 2008. Especially due to his long term injury however still an absolute beast. There is no coincidence that when he returned early last season we looked far better at the back
Can't believe you called Carvalho over rated, best defender in our and PL history without a shadow of a doubt.
Walker, Koscienly and jones are over rated but nobody seems to rate them anymore anyway, Hart is $hit aswell, Hazards way over rated as well although he does have the potential, needs to be more consistent
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Toure is probably better CM than Essien in his prime.
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Even as a united fan I would have to agree toure is better than Essen ever was.
And to say carvalho is the best CB in prem history is very debatable
Can't believe you called Carvalho over rated, best defender in our and PL history without a shadow of a doubt.
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Case in point right here. He's a great player but this is going overboard.
KDB is better than Schurrle, or at least no worse from what we've seen of both so far. They both have one assist so far, but KDB has had 3 starts, Schurrle 6-7, KDB also far better in pre-season.
Cazorla? Really? If anything people underrate him.
As for Ozil. Have nothing to say to that one really.
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
Blarmey makes a good post about Hazard's poor form this season..............but form is temporary and class is permanent...........he will end up being a great player over the next years
comment by (Dubbed The New Wenger) (U18614)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
Cazorla? Really? If anything people underrate him.
As for Ozil.Have nothing to say to that one really.
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Point proven.
comment by Stuck With The Name Biggish (U7916)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
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When we won back to back title's (setting the best and the joint 3rd best ever defensive record's in them) Terry played every game bar the one's where the title was already done, Carvalho played just over 20 both times.
There was a reason JT was the untouchable and Carvalho wasn't.
"Point proven."
How exactly was your point proven?
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comment by Kings Road (U1762)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Stuck With The Name Biggish (U7916)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
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When we won back to back title's (setting the best and the joint 3rd best ever defensive record's in them) Terry played every game bar the one's where the title was already done, Carvalho played just over 20 both times.
There was a reason JT was the untouchable and Carvalho wasn't.
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Quite right....riccy was excellent at times....but towards the end was not unlike sideshows early days where he was frankly a liability at times....how people forget...
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posted on 11/10/13
As a united fan I would have to say Ryan Giggs. I would be a very rich man if I had a pound for the amount of times I have heard 'uncharacteristic pass by giggs'
Have to disagree with vidic though. Yes he isn't as good as he was in 2008. Especially due to his long term injury however still an absolute beast. There is no coincidence that when he returned early last season we looked far better at the back
posted on 11/10/13
Can't believe you called Carvalho over rated, best defender in our and PL history without a shadow of a doubt.
Walker, Koscienly and jones are over rated but nobody seems to rate them anymore anyway, Hart is $hit aswell, Hazards way over rated as well although he does have the potential, needs to be more consistent
posted on 11/10/13
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Toure is probably better CM than Essien in his prime.
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posted on 11/10/13
Even as a united fan I would have to agree toure is better than Essen ever was.
And to say carvalho is the best CB in prem history is very debatable
posted on 11/10/13
Can't believe you called Carvalho over rated, best defender in our and PL history without a shadow of a doubt.
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Case in point right here. He's a great player but this is going overboard.
posted on 11/10/13
KDB is better than Schurrle, or at least no worse from what we've seen of both so far. They both have one assist so far, but KDB has had 3 starts, Schurrle 6-7, KDB also far better in pre-season.
posted on 11/10/13
Cazorla? Really? If anything people underrate him.
As for Ozil. Have nothing to say to that one really.
posted on 11/10/13
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
posted on 11/10/13
Blarmey makes a good post about Hazard's poor form this season..............but form is temporary and class is permanent...........he will end up being a great player over the next years
posted on 11/10/13
comment by (Dubbed The New Wenger) (U18614)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
Cazorla? Really? If anything people underrate him.
As for Ozil.Have nothing to say to that one really.
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Point proven.
posted on 11/10/13
comment by Stuck With The Name Biggish (U7916)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
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When we won back to back title's (setting the best and the joint 3rd best ever defensive record's in them) Terry played every game bar the one's where the title was already done, Carvalho played just over 20 both times.
There was a reason JT was the untouchable and Carvalho wasn't.
posted on 12/10/13
"Point proven."
How exactly was your point proven?
posted on 12/10/13
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comment by Kings Road (U1762)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Stuck With The Name Biggish (U7916)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Carlvalho for me is easiest the best ever CB to play for Chelsea...........pips Desailly because he was a ball playing CB, the idea that Terry was better than Rick is laughable.........
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When we won back to back title's (setting the best and the joint 3rd best ever defensive record's in them) Terry played every game bar the one's where the title was already done, Carvalho played just over 20 both times.
There was a reason JT was the untouchable and Carvalho wasn't.
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Quite right....riccy was excellent at times....but towards the end was not unlike sideshows early days where he was frankly a liability at times....how people forget...
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