Because Reyes never had the potential to reach the level they are at.

When Reyes came to Arsenal he was better and more talented than Ronaldo.

Fact is Ronaldo had ambitions to become the very best in the world and worked his bollox off to be where he is today.
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Reyes was never more talented than Ronaldo. That's absurd. The whole Ronaldo working his bollox off thing makes him look like some work horse. If anything, Ronaldo supressed some of his natural flair for his beastly efficiency. A teenage to early 20's Ronaldo was a supremely skilled dribbler and trickster who could do it all. I can't think of a single thing Reyes did better than him. He really wasn't that good for Arsenal and I didn't so much as blink when he left.

Reyes was the highest rated Spanish player and they thought he would be one of the best in the world.
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Really? What Spaniard gave you this impression. Reyes would be more comparable to someone like Iker Muniain today. Except than Spain's quality and depth are far greater than when Reyes had a few caps while Muniain can't get a sniff with the sea of top class players ahead of him. He wasn't that highly rated in Spain. Was he even capped before he came to Arsenal?

Sheriff

Ronaldo was always better than the vastly overrated Reyes.

To suggest he could have reached the level of these two is frankly one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.

These two players are among the greatest of all time. In Messi'a case arguably the greatest. Now say it out loud - Reyes could have been one of the greatest of all time up there with Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona et al.


Unbelievable.

Reyes was class. Nothing deluded about my comment at all. There was a reason Wenger paid £17mill for him at the age of 20.

You have a bad memory Sheriff. and yes Reyes was capped before he came to Arsenal, he was like a god at Sevilla. Ronaldo when he came to Und was just an dribbler with bad decision making, even remember SAF saying he didn't expect him to become a goalscorer.

Fergie paid £18m for Anderson at a younger age.

Don't hear people saying he could have been on their level had he not been injured and was stronger mentally.

Absolutely the most deluded comment I've read on here. And I've seen some corkers.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sheriff

Ronaldo was always better than the vastly overrated Reyes.

To suggest he could have reached the level of these two is frankly one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.

These two players are among the greatest of all time. In Messi'a case arguably the greatest. Now say it out loud - Reyes could have been one of the greatest of all time up there with Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona et al.


Unbelievable.
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Darren,

You were doing so good.......until you agreed with Sheriff!

Fergie made a lot of bad signings at high value though.

For Wenger to splash out that much however says something.

Sheriff is spot on.

It means he got ripped off. Like he did with Arshavin.

Wenger spending loads on him in no way, shape or form helps justify your ridiculous comment.

You have a bad memory Sheriff. and yes Reyes was capped before he came to Arsenal, he was like a god at Sevilla. Ronaldo when he came to Und was just an dribbler with bad decision making, even remember SAF saying he didn't expect him to become a goalscorer.
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The god at Sevilla was Baptista. Reyes was to them what Ox is to Arsenal today. They actually became a better team with Reyes' departure. He wasn't a key player for them. Ronaldo came to United as a teenager. What did you expect, that he'd immediately be the best in the world? In 2004, Ronaldo was already a major driving force behind Portugal making the Euro finals. Reyes only had a good couple of months of form at Arsenal.

I don't get the hype about this amazing player he threatened to be. I simply didn't see it. Which quality of Reyes would you say was outstanding?

Footballers are too quick to jump ship nowadays to win trophies.

Look at Nasri. Has a great first half of a season, where we look like we can genuinely win the league, then goes completely missing for the second half. No inspiration from one of our key players (when we really needed him), next thing you know, said player is flirting with moneybags City. He also completely bottled 2 good opportunities in the CC Final against Birmingham, and I remember a 1-on-1 against Bolton he messed up which would've kept us in the title race.

I wouldn't have minded his departure if he didn't come out disrespecting Arsenal, but he did, and just revealed what a spiteful little git he was. And he can have no satisfaction in that title win, he was an irrelevant figure for the majority.

Van Persie - we all know his situation. Injury ridden for the majority of his entire career, has one world class season and jumps ship. Fair enough, we were nowhere near the top in his last season, but you think he'd show a bit of loyalty. However, I don't blame him, this is just the way modern footballers are nowadays. He was an integral part of the title win, he got what he wanted.

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Reyes is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.

Had a good 6 months when he first went to Arsenal and then did fack all.

It's frankly an insult to suggest this average player could have reached Messi and Ronaldo's level.

6 good months does not maketh a player and he wasn't all that talented anyway.

Nani had a far superior season in 2011 than anything Reyes has ever done, and is a far more talented player, but you don't hear people saying he'd be up there with the greatest ever (which is basically what you're suggesting by comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo).

Not sure what to say Sheriff, pretty much everything in your post is wrong. Baptisa only joined Sevilla one year before Reyes left. The Sevilla fans protested and rioted when he was sold. Yes he was an important player for them especially given his age. He was massively rated in Spain and seen as a genuis type player. seriously where are you getting your info from, are you making it up.

8bit I would ignore sheriff. He'll do anything to agree with his own manutd fans.

Joaquin, Vicente and Torres were the great hopes of Spanish football not Reyes. And everyone knew what a talent Iniesta was. Genius footballer?

The latter two have injuries as an excuse for not hitting the heights the had hoped for. Reyes just wasn't actually that good.

Not sure what to say Sheriff, pretty much everything in your post is wrong. Baptisa only joined Sevilla one year before Reyes left. The Sevilla fans protested and rioted when he was sold. Yes he was an important player for them especially given his age. He was massively rated in Spain and seen as a genuis type player. seriously where are you getting your info from, are you making it up.
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Baptista was already their top scorer when Reyes left. No one was close to rioting. Fans simply felt a bond with a young local product who they were letting go but the money was good and the team became better.

Genius? I've asked you, what was it about Reyes' game that was so outstanding, nevermind "genius"? He was rated as a good upcoming talent in Spain, not "massively rated" like you're putting it.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Reyes is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.

Had a good 6 months when he first went to Arsenal and then did fack all.
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Exactly. The Spanish Michael Ricketts.

As good as Ronaldo and Mess! Dear lord.

Joaquin, Vicente and Torres were the great hopes of Spanish football not Reyes. And everyone knew what a talent Iniesta was. Genius footballer?

The latter two have injuries as an excuse for not hitting the heights the had hoped for. Reyes just wasn't actually that good.
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Vincente had such an awesome period at a stage. He and Joaquin were immense. They were the failed generation of Spanish footballers but were more talented than Reyes for sure. I wouldn't insult Iniesta by putting him in the comparison.

Reyes wasn't even as talented as Rosicky let alone Messi and Ronaldo.

His dribbling, close control, shooting were brilliant. He was such an elegant player to watch, had pace, could play striker or left wing and just had great ability, his mentality let him down. There's not much point arguing over the other details if you're gonna pull facts out of your crack.

Wow, 8bit is just describing a completely different player.

Arsenal fans' delusion around Reyes is hilarious.

His dribbling, close control, shooting were brilliant. He was such an elegant player to watch, had pace, could play striker or left wing and just had great ability, his mentality let him down. There's not much point arguing over the other details if you're gonna pull facts out of your crack.
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His dribbling was decent, he really wasn't that elegant, there was nothing special about his close control (unlike a Hleb or Cazorla), his had good pace but not exactly explosive and he had few goals scored with a great shot in Arsenal. Good talent but not a great one. As talented as Ronaldo? Not in a million years. You could ask a 100 neutrals that one and not a single one of them would agree with you.

He was a one trick pony. Drop your shoulder, push it past your man, then shoot. It worked for 6 months, then he got found out. Scored some nice goals, but was never going to be anything special.