I think the away goal in 2nd legs add's more drama to a tie but in the context as you explained it has no meaning and gives the away side in the 2nd leg the advantage.
The cup tied rule is just a pathetic rule that makes no sense. If you buy someone then he is your player so what he did in the past should not count for much regardless how well they played in the cup.
The cup-tied rule, apparently, was to stop a team getting to a cup final and then buying/loaning a whole load of players from other teams. Something like that.
I guess it used to make sense, but with the introduction of the transfer window it's become pretty pointless.
The away goal has become out dated. It was introduced about 50/60 years ago I think can't remember exactly why but it made sense back then. Nowadays it's a hinderance
Going out on away goals is sickening. Hate it, would rather lose on pens. It should definitely be scrapped.
Does it add more drama though? Close games will always be dramatic - the away goal rule has meant a number of teams have 'lost' even though the other side hasn't managed to beat them... it's just bizarre.
Completely agree about being cup tied. I think it had more weight before there was a transfer window - now though it is just pointless, and given that it is out of sync with the league system - is a bit ludicrous.
I think the away goal rule was aimed at stopping teams just parking the bus away from home... the theory was that if away goals were worth more teams would try harder and it would produce more exciting games. It doesn't work. If anything it means teams are more cautious at home because it is so important not to concede!
Agreed, away goals are the worst way to go out - at least losing on penalties the other team has done something better than you... going out without being beaten is tough.
I think it does add drama as well as plenty of nervous tension for the home fans but I did say it favours the away side every time. For sure you can argue that what don't you score an away goal or two in the first leg but we all know football nature always makes the first leg a cautious affair.
Does it add more drama though? Close games will always be dramatic - the away goal rule has meant a number of teams have 'lost' even though the other side hasn't managed to beat them... it's just bizarre.
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I guess so.
I think the point of it actually is to make sure the away team comes and actually tries to score, rather than just hoping for a 0-0 and a home victory. So yes, it does make complete sense to me.
But still, as I said, there is nothing worse than losing on away goals. It's such a harsh way to go out.
Kash - isn't that the point though, the second legs will always be dramatic and produce nervous tension whereas the first legs don't.
I think the away goal rule is wrong because if a first leg ends 0-0, then in the second leg the away team scores a goal with 10 minutes to go, the match is effectively over as the home side knows it needs to score 2 goals... (despite only being one goal down)
If there was no away goal rule, more games would be even and so teams would have to go and win the tie.
One thing about away goals though is that it carries on after extra time, therefore giving the away team a huge advantage.
I wouldn't ditch the rule completely, but that's something which should be looked at.
The trouble is teams are now often more defensive at home because they know how important a clean sheet is. 0-0 at home is a great result... that shouldn't be the case.
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posted on 31/10/13
I think the away goal in 2nd legs add's more drama to a tie but in the context as you explained it has no meaning and gives the away side in the 2nd leg the advantage.
The cup tied rule is just a pathetic rule that makes no sense. If you buy someone then he is your player so what he did in the past should not count for much regardless how well they played in the cup.
posted on 31/10/13
The cup-tied rule, apparently, was to stop a team getting to a cup final and then buying/loaning a whole load of players from other teams. Something like that.
I guess it used to make sense, but with the introduction of the transfer window it's become pretty pointless.
posted on 31/10/13
The away goal has become out dated. It was introduced about 50/60 years ago I think can't remember exactly why but it made sense back then. Nowadays it's a hinderance
posted on 31/10/13
Going out on away goals is sickening. Hate it, would rather lose on pens. It should definitely be scrapped.
posted on 31/10/13
Does it add more drama though? Close games will always be dramatic - the away goal rule has meant a number of teams have 'lost' even though the other side hasn't managed to beat them... it's just bizarre.
Completely agree about being cup tied. I think it had more weight before there was a transfer window - now though it is just pointless, and given that it is out of sync with the league system - is a bit ludicrous.
posted on 31/10/13
I think the away goal rule was aimed at stopping teams just parking the bus away from home... the theory was that if away goals were worth more teams would try harder and it would produce more exciting games. It doesn't work. If anything it means teams are more cautious at home because it is so important not to concede!
Agreed, away goals are the worst way to go out - at least losing on penalties the other team has done something better than you... going out without being beaten is tough.
posted on 31/10/13
I think it does add drama as well as plenty of nervous tension for the home fans but I did say it favours the away side every time. For sure you can argue that what don't you score an away goal or two in the first leg but we all know football nature always makes the first leg a cautious affair.
posted on 31/10/13
Does it add more drama though? Close games will always be dramatic - the away goal rule has meant a number of teams have 'lost' even though the other side hasn't managed to beat them... it's just bizarre.
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I guess so.
I think the point of it actually is to make sure the away team comes and actually tries to score, rather than just hoping for a 0-0 and a home victory. So yes, it does make complete sense to me.
But still, as I said, there is nothing worse than losing on away goals. It's such a harsh way to go out.
posted on 31/10/13
Kash - isn't that the point though, the second legs will always be dramatic and produce nervous tension whereas the first legs don't.
I think the away goal rule is wrong because if a first leg ends 0-0, then in the second leg the away team scores a goal with 10 minutes to go, the match is effectively over as the home side knows it needs to score 2 goals... (despite only being one goal down)
If there was no away goal rule, more games would be even and so teams would have to go and win the tie.
posted on 31/10/13
One thing about away goals though is that it carries on after extra time, therefore giving the away team a huge advantage.
I wouldn't ditch the rule completely, but that's something which should be looked at.
posted on 31/10/13
The trouble is teams are now often more defensive at home because they know how important a clean sheet is. 0-0 at home is a great result... that shouldn't be the case.
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