Pretty much, Barf.


Bats, can't see how you can argue with that, good post.

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well he was sprinting at the end.

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GT, you want to know what I really think?

The same that I have thought and said to you all season, that Giroud is not a striker who is going to win you trophies. You have argued otherwise all season, constantly stating we are top of the league with Giroud, and because of this it would be wrong to replace him.
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I never said and that is what I really hate of you is that you always twists my words to an extend to support your argument of Giroud being shiiiit. When I came out with the "we are top of the league" we managed to grind out some wins against opponents we would have draw or lose when we had RVP or Cesc in our side. I know that Giroud is not in the mould of Suarez or the likes....I am with Wenger to change something especially upfront because the tiki taka football was never going to work for us and we end so many seasons with frustrations. I never said that Giroud would win us trophies....alone you win nothing. You need the whole team and good tactics were we struggle. To blame everything on Giroud being not the best finisher (which we all know he isnt) is supporting one thing "your blind hatred" for him.

Now we are sinking down the table, performance are stale and he has gone missing with the exception of the odd good performance against lesser teams. But you refuse to put any blame on him.
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See above. I blame him as well but you blame he alone for our fails. Saying that you would prefer Bendtner upfront says it all.

All I am doing is highlighting your double standards and hidden agendas when it comes to certain players. "We were shít when we had Van Persie so why would we want him back." Of course when RVP was at Arsenal, he and he alone was the reason we never competed for trophies. Not his team mates. But the roles are reversed when it comes to Giroud. Then the likes of Lewandowski, Ibrahimovic, Mandzukic, proven strikers with multiple winners' medals are crap and overrated despite cleaning up team and individual awards every season. You constantly wánk over Cesc and how much you would want him back even though he was an everpresent in a team who never won anything, which is odd because you cite how RVP never won anything when he was with us.
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I dont want to comment on your last paragraph because I am lost for words litterly reading this bollox. Only want to comment on Cesc. Of course I want him back at Arsenal....he is world class. Would he win us trophies? Mmmhh not sure. For winning the title we needed a mobile, stricky striker to play alongside OG or to replace him and yes of course no longterm injuries.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 14 minutes ago
Pretty much, Barf.


Bats, can't see how you can argue with that, good post.
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I am sure can't

redknapps going mad

Not watching Ilori, is he creaming himself over our win?

His bias is pretty embarassing for us to be honest

GT, why does it matter that you've ground out results against teams you failed to do that with Cesc and RVP?

We ground out wins with Welbeck that we didn't with RVN.

I do think you'd be a better side with a mobile pacey striker but you could win titles if you had RVP in this team as well.

From an outsiders perspective it seems that Arsenal fans a disillusioned with Giroud because he doesn't make the difference in games enough - and that's what wins you titles, especially when it's your striker.

"I do think you'd be a better side with a mobile pacey striker ..."

I never denied that. Of course I would have Suarez e.g. in our team. Why do you think I have a different opinion on that. What I cant accept is to blame everything on Giroud when we are struggling. Yes in that regard I protect him. Scapegoating is not the right thing to do. Giroud is part of this team and he is to blame like any other player but to blame everything on him alone because you cant stand him, is not fair and doesnt reflect the problems we have.

LOL you are arguing against a brick Bats. Giroud can do no wrong in the eyes of GT. He could drop his pants on half way line and have a wannk and GT will defend him

"I never said and that is what I really hate of you is that you always twists my words to an extend to support your argument of Giroud being shiiiit. When I came out with the "we are top of the league" we managed to grind out some wins against opponents we would have draw or lose when we had RVP or Cesc in our side."

How do you know that? Are you 'speculating' GT? Well I am truly shocked. It's very unlike you to contradict yourself, especially in support of Giroud. Very unlike you.
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Well I based my argument we fail with RVP and Cesc on the past season when they played for us and we struggle to beat "poorer teams" How is that a contradiction or a speculation?

"I blame him as well but you blame he alone for our fails. Saying that you would prefer Bendtner upfront says it all."

I don't blame Giroud solely but he is the main contributor to our poor form as he is the weak link in the team more often than not and his good performances this season can be counted in one hand. As for the Bendtner comment I have said for more than a year Bendtner is better than Giroud, and have said on numerous times this season when we were 'top of the league ' that he should be playing. He is a better footballer than Giroud, a better finisher and doesn't bottle it in big games like Giroud. It's a no brainer for me
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No of course you dont blame Giroud solely or . You would even blame him for the second world war if that would be possible. Your hatred against him influence your judgement on the game as a whole and what is wrong with the team effort in general. If you think Bendtner or Sanogo is better than Girould is okay because its your opinion. But to say that Bendtner would bang in the goals is pathetic because he is 9 years at our club to show that he is world class.

"I dont want to comment on your last paragraph because I am lost for words litterly reading this bollox."

Don't want to comment because you can't. That put you in your place and you are lost for words
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I am lost for words because there is so many wrong in your last paragraph that everything I would answer you would twist again. So no brainer for me not to comment on that.

What are you talking about, GT? I was agreeing with you that you need a mobile pacey striker.

But it doesn't have to be a mobile pacey striker or Giroud if you can find a better striker than him.

I do agree that people seem to scapegoat Giroud and he seems to be unfairly treated, especially people with a hatred of him, but you are the opposite of the extreme.

Another thing is that strikers are always scrutinised far more than any other position on the pitch, and rightly so, because they are the match winners - saying Giroud is part of the team and the team is playing bad, while valid at times, it's a bit of a cop out because Giroud needs to be making the difference when the team is playing bad - and that's why he's the weakest link in the side, even though he's not the worst player.

You would even blame him for the second world war if that would be possible.
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LOL you are arguing against a brick Bats. Giroud can do no wrong in the eyes of GT. He could drop his pants on half way line and have a wannk and GT will defend him

HK you really need to read again...

Lucky Inter

I do agree that people seem to scapegoat Giroud and he seems to be unfairly treated, especially people with a hatred of him, but you are the opposite of the extreme.

I am not the other extreme. I blame him exactly I blame other players that dont perform. Why do you think I protect him?

Lol bats.

top of the league. wenger knows.

Lol catz

have people finally given up on giroo? i'd say he's worse than Ba