anyway, nice one to end the week, night GT.
If it was a Cordoba player to Ronaldo, ref would have put the incident as agression, along with the other incidents where he lashed out and the Cordoba player would have gotten a 5 match ban for sure.
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
And who decides if it is 1-3 game ban? After they saw the incident how could they not give him the max possible ban within those parameters. Corruption.
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Because the ref dealt with the incident on the pitch. In those cases, the disciplinie committee has to go along with what the ref wrote in his report.
It's like the Arda boot-throwing incident. The ref wrote he was booked for dissent for throwing the boot off the pitch, not that he'd thrown it at/towards the linesman, so no further action was taken against Arda.
Villareal still havent lost by more than 1 goal to the big 2 since they have been back.
Yes, I got you there but the committee could still have given him a 3 match ban couldn't they? Yet after viewing the incident they still gave him a 2 match ban.
Yep, and I agree Ronaldo got off lightly.
There a plenty of instances where disciplinary committee decisions are hard to understand though. Rodrigo de Paul's made no sense to me, then you get plenty of instances where booking are upheld and video evidence shows the player who was booked didn't do anything, or bans for reds are upheld when on review a yellow might have been enough, and then loads of instances of cards that are overruled and you can't really see why. The only reason this one's drawn s much attention is because of who it involves.
That's whats wound me up and makes me absolutely convinced the 2 decisions(refs and committe's) were made in light of an Atleti game coming up! A player from another team wouldn't have "gotten off lightly"
The RDP one drew my attention that's for sure! They couldnt say he meant it for sure due to reputation as it was his debut, in fact he'd barely played a minute.
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 5 minutes ago
The RDP one drew my attention that's for sure! They couldnt say he meant it for sure due to reputation as it was his debut, in fact he'd barely played a minute.
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Yeah, but what sort of fuss do you think it kicked up amongst non-Valencia fans? How many do you think remember it now? It's always going to be a question of anything surrounding Madrd or Barça being blown out of proportion.
Liverpool aspas is way better then Suarez Suarez is worse then current Torres in Spain. Should hav scored 2 at least Suarez.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 24 minutes ago
Night Neo
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Group hug
You raise a good point there but I don't think that's the case here. In fact, non-la liga fans barely seem to care. I also have no idea how much of a talking point it is in the Spanish media. They make much of a fuss about it because it is Ronaldo but letthat not make us fail to judge the decision objectively(I can clearly see it hasnt) ourselves. And just case you're wondering, yes my outrage is linked with the RDP incident. The inconsistency is ridiculous.
Wump, what about the Arda boot-throwing incident? Don't you think the media would've been all over it like a rash if it had been Ronaldo instead? With exactly the same report the ref wrote for Arda, it would've stirred up far greater controversy. That's just the way it is.
That aside though, I guess that out of 100 cases, both Madrid and Barça will get the rub of the green versus everyone else simply because of the immense media machinery they are capable of putting into motion overnight. I don't agree though that it's every single time or that it particularly falls one way or the other. Never believed the Villarato, never lent ears to Mourinho's pathetic whinging, I am not about to start doing it the other way round either.
And the Patriots take the Superbowl..
Russell Wilson
I agree esp when compared to the Arda Turan incident which I havent seen yet. I read that Arda didnt mean to hit the lino though?
I wrote that myself on La Liga thread.
What's clear imo is that he threw it in disgust "in the general direction of the lino". No way he meant to hit him because he was miles off target, though I'm certain the thought must have crossed his mind a second before he launched it.
It was definitely an act of physical intimidation imo, but I don't even know how any such instances might be contemplated in the rulebook. What I am sure of though is that if this had involved Madrid's or Barça's star player we still wouldn't have heard the end of it, regardless of what the ref had reported or whether the committee had acted or not.
Man U v Cambridge anyone?
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posted on 1/2/15
anyway, nice one to end the week, night GT.
posted on 1/2/15
If it was a Cordoba player to Ronaldo, ref would have put the incident as agression, along with the other incidents where he lashed out and the Cordoba player would have gotten a 5 match ban for sure.
posted on 1/2/15
Night Neo
posted on 1/2/15
Great game night lads
posted on 1/2/15
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
And who decides if it is 1-3 game ban? After they saw the incident how could they not give him the max possible ban within those parameters. Corruption.
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Because the ref dealt with the incident on the pitch. In those cases, the disciplinie committee has to go along with what the ref wrote in his report.
It's like the Arda boot-throwing incident. The ref wrote he was booked for dissent for throwing the boot off the pitch, not that he'd thrown it at/towards the linesman, so no further action was taken against Arda.
posted on 1/2/15
night kav
posted on 1/2/15
Villareal still havent lost by more than 1 goal to the big 2 since they have been back.
posted on 1/2/15
Yes, I got you there but the committee could still have given him a 3 match ban couldn't they? Yet after viewing the incident they still gave him a 2 match ban.
posted on 1/2/15
anyone watching acon?
posted on 1/2/15
Yep, and I agree Ronaldo got off lightly.
posted on 1/2/15
Goal!!!!
great goal
posted on 1/2/15
There a plenty of instances where disciplinary committee decisions are hard to understand though. Rodrigo de Paul's made no sense to me, then you get plenty of instances where booking are upheld and video evidence shows the player who was booked didn't do anything, or bans for reds are upheld when on review a yellow might have been enough, and then loads of instances of cards that are overruled and you can't really see why. The only reason this one's drawn s much attention is because of who it involves.
posted on 1/2/15
That's whats wound me up and makes me absolutely convinced the 2 decisions(refs and committe's) were made in light of an Atleti game coming up! A player from another team wouldn't have "gotten off lightly"
posted on 1/2/15
The RDP one drew my attention that's for sure! They couldnt say he meant it for sure due to reputation as it was his debut, in fact he'd barely played a minute.
posted on 1/2/15
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 5 minutes ago
The RDP one drew my attention that's for sure! They couldnt say he meant it for sure due to reputation as it was his debut, in fact he'd barely played a minute.
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Yeah, but what sort of fuss do you think it kicked up amongst non-Valencia fans? How many do you think remember it now? It's always going to be a question of anything surrounding Madrd or Barça being blown out of proportion.
posted on 1/2/15
Liverpool aspas is way better then Suarez Suarez is worse then current Torres in Spain. Should hav scored 2 at least Suarez.
posted on 1/2/15
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 24 minutes ago
Night Neo
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Group hug
posted on 1/2/15
You raise a good point there but I don't think that's the case here. In fact, non-la liga fans barely seem to care. I also have no idea how much of a talking point it is in the Spanish media. They make much of a fuss about it because it is Ronaldo but letthat not make us fail to judge the decision objectively(I can clearly see it hasnt) ourselves. And just case you're wondering, yes my outrage is linked with the RDP incident. The inconsistency is ridiculous.
posted on 1/2/15
Wump, what about the Arda boot-throwing incident? Don't you think the media would've been all over it like a rash if it had been Ronaldo instead? With exactly the same report the ref wrote for Arda, it would've stirred up far greater controversy. That's just the way it is.
posted on 1/2/15
That aside though, I guess that out of 100 cases, both Madrid and Barça will get the rub of the green versus everyone else simply because of the immense media machinery they are capable of putting into motion overnight. I don't agree though that it's every single time or that it particularly falls one way or the other. Never believed the Villarato, never lent ears to Mourinho's pathetic whinging, I am not about to start doing it the other way round either.
posted on 2/2/15
And the Patriots take the Superbowl..
Russell Wilson
posted on 2/2/15
I agree esp when compared to the Arda Turan incident which I havent seen yet. I read that Arda didnt mean to hit the lino though?
posted on 2/2/15
I wrote that myself on La Liga thread.
What's clear imo is that he threw it in disgust "in the general direction of the lino". No way he meant to hit him because he was miles off target, though I'm certain the thought must have crossed his mind a second before he launched it.
It was definitely an act of physical intimidation imo, but I don't even know how any such instances might be contemplated in the rulebook. What I am sure of though is that if this had involved Madrid's or Barça's star player we still wouldn't have heard the end of it, regardless of what the ref had reported or whether the committee had acted or not.
posted on 3/2/15
Man U v Cambridge anyone?
posted on 3/2/15
No.
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