Pacquiao beats Floyd it is clear.

Floyd has avoided this fight for 5 years now and will still avoided it.

Floyd really is an ATG ducker

Does Manny deserve 50/50?

Floyd takes there fight if they do, however that said its not a forgone conclusion and if he did fight Manny then there are plenty of reasons why he can beat him.

Personally I think Pacquiao needs another fight before it is even a possibility.

If it does not happen, and I dont actually think it will, then in years time Mayweathers reputation will suffer, no matter how good his record is with out manny on there it is much more hollow and people will judge him on it.

I agree that his legacy will suffer. So will Manny's. Fans know where the blame lies ad it is not with either boxer if truth be told.

But had Arum agreed for Manny to take the tests we wouldn't be talking about it. We would have been talking about Floyd deffo being an ATG top 5.

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 4 minutes ago
Does Manny deserve 50/50?
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Yes

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 26 seconds ago
I agree that his legacy will suffer. So will Manny's. Fans know where the blame lies ad it is not with either boxer if truth be told.

But had Arum agreed for Manny to take the tests we wouldn't be talking about it. We would have been talking about Floyd deffo being an ATG top 5.
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Manny has always wanted the fight, and everytime he has move to Floyd's position to make the fight happen Floyd has moved further away, made more demands to make the fight less likely.

These are the facts, and for that reason Floyd legacy will suffer for the fight not happening and Pacquiao's would not.

Floyd has also cherry picked and avoided a lot through his career.

Are you on auto pilot. Neither fighter should be blamed. That should be reserved for their management in particular Arum who is a nasty piece of work.

Floyd took vacations, went to jail, demanded all the PPV money, demanded $100m gaurantee, demanded Pacquiao leave his promoter and fight for him then he get a shot.

Only a fool would think these are reasonable demands for someone who wants the fight.


Floyd also said, his health is more important to him when asked about the Pacquiao fight, claiming he is a coward but a rich coward.

What more do you want?

Floyd to dress up in a chicken suiting a go "cluck! cluck! cluck!"

And Manny refusal to take the test.

Why does Manny deserve 50/50?

Manny deserves a 50/50 split because at least half of the money from the fight would come from the fact that he is in the fight.

This fight would generate more money then any other fight before it, and it would do that because of both fighters, not one fighter more than the other.

and overall Floyds legacy would suffer a hell of a lot more than Mannys

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 1 minute ago
And Manny refusal to take the test.

Why does Manny deserve 50/50?
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Pacquiao never refused, they disagreed on the exact procedure, in december 2009, but as early as July 2010 all this testing issues were no more.

And what did Floyd do?

Take a vacation.

He said he wanted to take a year or two out of the game to spend time with his family.

We all know how that ended up, Floyd beating up the mother of his children in front of them.

More likely Floyd needed that time to take another round of PEDs and of course to duck Pacquiao.


And in 2009 december, Floyd was the one who asked for the 50/50 split.

And in 2010 March, Floyd said if he takes the test the fight happens.

Just more lies from Floyd, only a mug like you will eat that $hit up time and time again.

Have some respect for yourself

Where does the blame lay if this fight doesn't go a head well that is with boxing in general, all the different bodies and crap has always been an issue, also and I have said this for a while, boxers have too much power in the say who they fight next.....this shouldn't even be a discussion. You fight who the body tells you to fight or you lose your belts end of and simple.

Is Manny ready, now yes. A few fights back no, the politics was catching up with him and his heart only looked 50% in it. Yesterday he looked good, fast.....and feck me someone that small should not hit that hard. The boxing world demands this fight.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 8 minutes ago
Manny deserves a 50/50 split because at least half of the money from the fight would come from the fact that he is in the fight.

This fight would generate more money then any other fight before it, and it would do that because of both fighters, not one fighter more than the other.

and overall Floyds legacy would suffer a hell of a lot more than Mannys
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Well if Floyd fights Khan at least half the money would be because he has Khan. An opponent. .

d4, do you understand the meaning of "random"? No cut off date to flush out the juice. Random means at any point up to the fight.

you think at least half the people would be tuning in cause its a Khan fight?

Only cause someone is fighting someone else doesn't mean half the audience are tuning in for one fighter and the other half are tuning in for the other.

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 1 minute ago
d4, do you understand the meaning of "random"? No cut off date to flush out the juice. Random means at any point up to the fight.
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random
ˈrandəm/
adjective
1.
made, done, or happening without method or conscious decision.
"apparently random violence"
governed by or involving equal chances for each item.
"a random sample of 100 households"
synonyms: unsystematic, arbitrary, unmethodical, haphazard, unarranged, unplanned, undirected, casual, indiscriminate, non-specific, stray, erratic; More
antonyms: systematic, planned
(of masonry) with stones of irregular size and shape.
2.
informal
odd, unusual, or unexpected.

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That is what random means

And if it is random, why have all Floyd's blood tests have ended 2 weeks before the fight or earlier.

I wonder?

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 8 minutes ago
you think at least half the people would be tuning in cause its a Khan fight?

Only cause someone is fighting someone else doesn't mean half the audience are tuning in for one fighter and the other half are tuning in for the other.
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Floyd bring in bigger ppv buys. Gets bigger purses than Manny. He is the bigger draw plus he is the recognised champion. Therefore he deserves the lion's share. 63/35 split seems fair. Should be 80/20 but Paq is a draw.

Understand what it means then. Anyplace and any time testing. Not "you can test me when I want".

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 2 minutes ago
Understand what it means then. Anyplace and any time testing. Not "you can test me when I want".
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Any place and any time.

Strange how they only after gym sessions and not blood testing him two weeks before the fight.

Doesn't sound like Floyd was doing random drug testing

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 8 minutes ago
you think at least half the people would be tuning in cause its a Khan fight?

Only cause someone is fighting someone else doesn't mean half the audience are tuning in for one fighter and the other half are tuning in for the other.
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Floyd bring in bigger ppv buys. Gets bigger purses than Manny. He is the bigger draw plus he is the recognised champion. Therefore he deserves the lion's share. 63/35 split seems fair. Should be 80/20 but Paq is a draw.
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Pacquiao generates just as much PPV money as Floyd if not more.

Check the Mosley fights, the Marquez fights and Cotto.

Floyd has had to put big names on his card to his numbers. e.g Alvarez and when he fought Alvarez he had Matthysse vs Garcia, and had names such as Mares on his card too.

Also he fights on the biggest boxing days of the year, Mexican Independence Day and Cinqo de mayo.

Marquez vs Pacquiao IV did more that Guerrero vs Floyd, despite all of this.

Well he wanted random testing.

Why the "scared of needles" excuse and "it makes Manny weaker" nonsense? Is that justified?

Can you pick out their respective last 5 fights and post the ppv numbers please.

Also well done for admitting that the fights Mayweather promotions puts on are stacked cards and the fans get VFM.

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 57 seconds ago
Well he wanted random testing.

Why the "scared of needles" excuse and "it makes Manny weaker" nonsense? Is that justified?
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Why are you still on that, like I said that was done with July 2010.

Pacquiao never claimed he was scared of needles. And the make him weaker line come from when they took blood from him the day before the 1st Morales fight.

And people do feel weaker after they give blood, I do.

And
VADA testing is superior to USADA testing that Floyd does.

You sound like the IDF PR officer.

comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 10 seconds ago
Can you pick out their respective last 5 fights and post the ppv numbers please.

Also well done for admitting that the fights Mayweather promotions puts on are stacked cards and the fans get VFM.
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I would like to, but I can't really be bother to do your leg work.

And GBP cards have been more stacked and they market them very well.