Need to stick with him, i think. We've let him get us into a mess. It's only fair we give him the chance to clean it up.

I was in favour of AVB when he took the job. However my faith in him is rapidly declining. I think we were all patient when we were playing dire football but winning 1-0. However playing turgid football and losing is completely different.

I wouldn't say the Utd game is a must win but I would say the Fulham one is - the problem there is that Fulham will possibly have a new manager by then and we all know what tends to happen with the new manager's first game!

Even after the Fulham game we have some very tough fixtures before Christmas.

Agreed - I think the Christmas run will be the key to our season.

We are still in a decent position to have a good season after a great start

I am trying to look at things in perspective for now. This is a bad run of form. We can't get much worse right now so the only way should be up.

If by Christmas i see no improvements and the shocking results continue to come then i will begin to throw some real-asss toys out of the pram

You're right, we're not like Chelsea. We change managers when things are going uphill.