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My thoughts are City would have won regardless but there were several decisions that just proved how much of a farce the modern game is.
The fact officials can get away with such poor decisions without having to justify them is a joke. What is worse, the FA's policy on defending referees is just unacceptable.
that linesman was a flaggy caaant. I called it early on. busy baaaastard. absolute caaant.
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What chronic said. Hope he got some filthy abuse down on that line.
I was at the game and yes the 2 decisions went against us this time but we were outplayed. I'd rather we get decisions in a game we actually look like winning.
It was disappointing but City are a class act, it seems they attack in numbers yet when we managed to counter they had plenty at the back too! Incredible engines in that side. Plenty of Chelsea fans whinging on the train home too so that perked me up a bit
The words 'straws' and 'clutching' spring to mind.
In a tight offside decision, sure...the attacker should have the benefit of the doubt. Last night was not a tight decision.
"Fernandinho should have been sent off for intentional hand ball and trying to prevent a goal".
Why? City were punished with a goal. Isn't that enough?
You were very lunlucky with the Rose sending off but as Sherwood admitted, even before that there was only one team going to win the game.
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Offside - Correct. Adebayor was a mile offside.
Penalty - Correct. Rose had to go through the player to get the ball. Silly tackle.
Fernandinho handball - fack me you are having a laugh.
If anything Spurs were lucky to get away with Bentaleb juggling the ball, I counted 6 handballs in the space of 2 seconds there.
Plus Capoue got away with a shocker about 40 seconds after coming on.
I thought the ref did well. It was a free kick to Spurs in the lead up to the offside goal, he got that right. In fact between them the officials got pretty much everything correct, especially in the decisions that 'favoured' City.
D'Jeezus - The guy who would be saying the opposite, if that had happened to Arsenal.
What a prune.
Fernandinho tried to chest the ball but it obviously hit his arm as it was travelling at about 80 mph and you think he should have got a red card despite the fact it was a goal.
You should consider Stand Up my humourous friend.
No I wouldn't. The 3 'controversial' decisions were all pretty black and white.
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I’ve never really understood why a red card is given for stopping a goal-scoring opportunity, then to subsequently award a penalty. If you are awarding a penalty, you are re-presenting a goal scoring opportunity, so why the need to send off the player? The whole rule is totally contradictory.
I was actually disappointed that Fernandinho’s attempt to handball the ball away from the goal did not succeed, as I would much rather have had the penalty and City down to 10 men.
comment by Wild_ Rover (U5211)
posted 18 minutes ago
The words 'straws' and 'clutching' spring to mind.
In a tight offside decision, sure...the attacker should have the benefit of the doubt. Last night was not a tight decision.
"Fernandinho should have been sent off for intentional hand ball and trying to prevent a goal".
Why? City were punished with a goal. Isn't that enough?
You were very lunlucky with the Rose sending off but as Sherwood admitted, even before that there was only one team going to win the game.
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You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
I’ve never really understood why a red card is given for stopping a goal-scoring opportunity, then to subsequently award a penalty. If you are awarding a penalty, you are re-presenting a goal scoring opportunity, so why the need to send off the player? The whole rule is totally contradictory.
I was actually disappointed that Fernandinho’s attempt to handball the ball away from the goal did not succeed, as I would much rather have had the penalty and City down to 10 men.
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This is precisely my point. Spurs would have been better off had the ball not gone in due to Fernandinho. i.e as City were better off that Rose got the tackle in, got sent off and Dzeko didn't have another opportunity to sky his shot.
*sigh dj on our board again. Shocker.
It's easy to complain by poor decisions, but we weren't even close to city all game. Had the correct call been made with regards to the rose tackle then I think the score line wouldn't have been so harsh but we would still of lost by at least two goals. It was rose fault though, should never have got into the position to give the ref a chance to give the penalty.
With regards to the handball point, I actually have no clue what the law is in regards for that. I once remember a young Rooney getting booked for going studs in unnecessarily, despite not making contact with player or ball. That being said, a fernandinho sending off would be very harsh.
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Maybe Fernandinho should get a retrospective 6 game ban.
I think the thing that annoyed me most about last night was Yaya's tackle on Dembele. Not only was it cynical but it was a very dangerous tackle which got Dembele subbed injured as a result.
There was no need for that challenge, he was well beaten and just wanted to hurt the other guy.
You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
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I've never believed in the double punishment...penalty and a sending off....it ruins too many games. Its not like the player was through one on one with the goalie. Was a shocking decision in the first place but once the penalty was given it should have been a yellow card to Rose and no more.
comment by Wild_ Rover (U5211)
posted 3 minutes ago
You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
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I've never believed in the double punishment...penalty and a sending off....it ruins too many games. Its not like the player was through one on one with the goalie. Was a shocking decision in the first place but once the penalty was given it should have been a yellow card to Rose and no more.
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Yeah, I think I didn't really explain my point too well.
What I was really getting as was the disparity between Rose's sending off (when Dzeko still had the keeper to beat and the ball was won) in comparison to Fernandinho's deliberate handball in an attempt to stop the ball going in. It doesn't make sense that Tottenham are seriously punished for the rest of the game when Dzeko still would have had a bit to do, whereas Fernandinho's was completely clear cut but as the ball happened to go in, he (and City) get away virtually unpunished
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
Maybe Fernandinho should get a retrospective 6 game ban.
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Don't be stupid Boris, that isn't the point I'm making.
I just think there is disparity and a grey area between which action actually causes the opposition more harm. The fact that Spurs lost a player for (what the super slo-mo replays showed) a fair tackle, seems unfair in my book compared to a blatantly intentional handball on the line.
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posted on 30/1/14
My thoughts are City would have won regardless but there were several decisions that just proved how much of a farce the modern game is.
The fact officials can get away with such poor decisions without having to justify them is a joke. What is worse, the FA's policy on defending referees is just unacceptable.
posted on 30/1/14
that linesman was a flaggy caaant. I called it early on. busy baaaastard. absolute caaant.
posted on 30/1/14
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posted on 30/1/14
What chronic said. Hope he got some filthy abuse down on that line.
posted on 30/1/14
I was at the game and yes the 2 decisions went against us this time but we were outplayed. I'd rather we get decisions in a game we actually look like winning.
It was disappointing but City are a class act, it seems they attack in numbers yet when we managed to counter they had plenty at the back too! Incredible engines in that side. Plenty of Chelsea fans whinging on the train home too so that perked me up a bit
posted on 30/1/14
The words 'straws' and 'clutching' spring to mind.
In a tight offside decision, sure...the attacker should have the benefit of the doubt. Last night was not a tight decision.
"Fernandinho should have been sent off for intentional hand ball and trying to prevent a goal".
Why? City were punished with a goal. Isn't that enough?
You were very lunlucky with the Rose sending off but as Sherwood admitted, even before that there was only one team going to win the game.
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Offside - Correct. Adebayor was a mile offside.
Penalty - Correct. Rose had to go through the player to get the ball. Silly tackle.
Fernandinho handball - fack me you are having a laugh.
If anything Spurs were lucky to get away with Bentaleb juggling the ball, I counted 6 handballs in the space of 2 seconds there.
Plus Capoue got away with a shocker about 40 seconds after coming on.
I thought the ref did well. It was a free kick to Spurs in the lead up to the offside goal, he got that right. In fact between them the officials got pretty much everything correct, especially in the decisions that 'favoured' City.
posted on 30/1/14
D'Jeezus - The guy who would be saying the opposite, if that had happened to Arsenal.
posted on 30/1/14
What a prune.
Fernandinho tried to chest the ball but it obviously hit his arm as it was travelling at about 80 mph and you think he should have got a red card despite the fact it was a goal.
You should consider Stand Up my humourous friend.
posted on 30/1/14
No I wouldn't. The 3 'controversial' decisions were all pretty black and white.
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I’ve never really understood why a red card is given for stopping a goal-scoring opportunity, then to subsequently award a penalty. If you are awarding a penalty, you are re-presenting a goal scoring opportunity, so why the need to send off the player? The whole rule is totally contradictory.
I was actually disappointed that Fernandinho’s attempt to handball the ball away from the goal did not succeed, as I would much rather have had the penalty and City down to 10 men.
posted on 30/1/14
comment by Wild_ Rover (U5211)
posted 18 minutes ago
The words 'straws' and 'clutching' spring to mind.
In a tight offside decision, sure...the attacker should have the benefit of the doubt. Last night was not a tight decision.
"Fernandinho should have been sent off for intentional hand ball and trying to prevent a goal".
Why? City were punished with a goal. Isn't that enough?
You were very lunlucky with the Rose sending off but as Sherwood admitted, even before that there was only one team going to win the game.
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You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
posted on 30/1/14
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
I’ve never really understood why a red card is given for stopping a goal-scoring opportunity, then to subsequently award a penalty. If you are awarding a penalty, you are re-presenting a goal scoring opportunity, so why the need to send off the player? The whole rule is totally contradictory.
I was actually disappointed that Fernandinho’s attempt to handball the ball away from the goal did not succeed, as I would much rather have had the penalty and City down to 10 men.
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This is precisely my point. Spurs would have been better off had the ball not gone in due to Fernandinho. i.e as City were better off that Rose got the tackle in, got sent off and Dzeko didn't have another opportunity to sky his shot.
posted on 30/1/14
*sigh dj on our board again. Shocker.
It's easy to complain by poor decisions, but we weren't even close to city all game. Had the correct call been made with regards to the rose tackle then I think the score line wouldn't have been so harsh but we would still of lost by at least two goals. It was rose fault though, should never have got into the position to give the ref a chance to give the penalty.
With regards to the handball point, I actually have no clue what the law is in regards for that. I once remember a young Rooney getting booked for going studs in unnecessarily, despite not making contact with player or ball. That being said, a fernandinho sending off would be very harsh.
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posted on 30/1/14
Maybe Fernandinho should get a retrospective 6 game ban.
posted on 30/1/14
I think the thing that annoyed me most about last night was Yaya's tackle on Dembele. Not only was it cynical but it was a very dangerous tackle which got Dembele subbed injured as a result.
There was no need for that challenge, he was well beaten and just wanted to hurt the other guy.
posted on 30/1/14
You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
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I've never believed in the double punishment...penalty and a sending off....it ruins too many games. Its not like the player was through one on one with the goalie. Was a shocking decision in the first place but once the penalty was given it should have been a yellow card to Rose and no more.
posted on 30/1/14
comment by Wild_ Rover (U5211)
posted 3 minutes ago
You say that Rover, but in that case is the Rose sending off fair as City were rewarded with a goal?
by the way, I'm not a Spurs fan.
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I've never believed in the double punishment...penalty and a sending off....it ruins too many games. Its not like the player was through one on one with the goalie. Was a shocking decision in the first place but once the penalty was given it should have been a yellow card to Rose and no more.
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Yeah, I think I didn't really explain my point too well.
What I was really getting as was the disparity between Rose's sending off (when Dzeko still had the keeper to beat and the ball was won) in comparison to Fernandinho's deliberate handball in an attempt to stop the ball going in. It doesn't make sense that Tottenham are seriously punished for the rest of the game when Dzeko still would have had a bit to do, whereas Fernandinho's was completely clear cut but as the ball happened to go in, he (and City) get away virtually unpunished
posted on 30/1/14
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
Maybe Fernandinho should get a retrospective 6 game ban.
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Don't be stupid Boris, that isn't the point I'm making.
I just think there is disparity and a grey area between which action actually causes the opposition more harm. The fact that Spurs lost a player for (what the super slo-mo replays showed) a fair tackle, seems unfair in my book compared to a blatantly intentional handball on the line.
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