Neither.
To support the club - manager and players included - through a transitional period of unprecedented upheaval, with an understanding of the complexities of the challenges ahead and patient loyalty
Paolo. I'll put you down as a To Backer.
As supporting the manager means that you are supporting the club.
Moyes was the Everton manager and to a man the belief was that he was the right man for the job - even though it has been proved that Martinez could do better.
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Wow, the season ended?
Moyes got you into Europe after lingering in 16th place, the season before. Martinez has done well for half a season.... Slight difference
There is a lot to be said for continuity. If there is a drastic rebuilding job to do. Not sure that is the case at United
It's odd that as Champions in the summer United were in a prime position to secure top talent such as Ozil but for reasons I can't quite understand they just didn't and panicked at the end. Without RVP to win them a game as he did so many times last season they are currently average and playing catch up.
Moyes didn't seem to have a plan when he arrived. He brought his staff with him and it seems he wanted everything the same when in truth he should of understood it was a step up and kept the coaches even if only for a short period / first season. With his work at Everton they surely would have had a decent idea about top quality players that could be available. He even ended up over paying for one that he knew all about.
You can't be blindly loyal. I questioned in the summer why BR didn't buy a DM player and again this January no one recruited. One key injury and that could ruin the season. It makes little sense. Every manager has their weak spots.
What is Pelligrini doing with Demichelis? Why did Jose let Lukaku go if he only had Ba / Torres & Eto? Why did Wenger only sign one player when he should of brought 3 and then compound it with an atrocious January when he buys an injured one?
Overall a bit of luck helps but I think SAF used it all up last season! Moyes will flounder and be gone by the end of next season like Jose
Wow, the season ended?
=====
Ji Zus!
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
Different gravy to Moyes.
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
Absolut!
What is Pelligrini doing with Demichelis? - Would you have thrown Rodwell into that boxing ring?
Conclusion : Believe!
Why did Jose let Lukaku go if he only had Ba / Torres & Eto? - Because he has no plans for the kid, he can take points off the opposition and make them a profit come the summer.
Why did Wenger only sign one player when he should of brought 3? - Because he hates undermining his first team. If he'd bought the finished article every year, the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Wilshere or Ramsay would never have made it.
comment by Sticky Toffees (U19150)
posted 6 minutes ago
Wow, the season ended?
=====
Ji Zus!
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is he, some kind of wizard?
Martinez the contact washer.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 43 seconds ago
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly! This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what? If you're going to be 5th-7th what difference does it make?
The loan signings have been brilliant, will you get all those permanently? The squad depth hasn't changed massively.
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
=====
And what a marvellous journey it would have been.
Mirallas, Barkley the resigning of Baines - massive results.
Darkphoenix
This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what?
=======
River!
And you support Manchester United?
Get yourself down to Chelsea sharpish!
comment by Sticky Toffees (U19150)
posted 11 seconds ago
Darkphoenix
This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what?
=======
River!
And you support Manchester United?
Get yourself down to Chelsea sharpish!
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I fail to see why I need to. Can I not become an Evertonian because Martinez makes you play all fancy?
Can I not become an Evertonian
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River - the door is open.
Thank you OP.
Like I said, he may help your players play all fancy but he's not making your club over-achieve or make it appear that Moyes under-achieved.
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posted on 4/2/14
Neither.
To support the club - manager and players included - through a transitional period of unprecedented upheaval, with an understanding of the complexities of the challenges ahead and patient loyalty
posted on 4/2/14
Paolo. I'll put you down as a To Backer.
As supporting the manager means that you are supporting the club.
posted on 4/2/14
Moyes was the Everton manager and to a man the belief was that he was the right man for the job - even though it has been proved that Martinez could do better.
---------------------------------------
Wow, the season ended?
Moyes got you into Europe after lingering in 16th place, the season before. Martinez has done well for half a season.... Slight difference
posted on 4/2/14
There is a lot to be said for continuity. If there is a drastic rebuilding job to do. Not sure that is the case at United
It's odd that as Champions in the summer United were in a prime position to secure top talent such as Ozil but for reasons I can't quite understand they just didn't and panicked at the end. Without RVP to win them a game as he did so many times last season they are currently average and playing catch up.
Moyes didn't seem to have a plan when he arrived. He brought his staff with him and it seems he wanted everything the same when in truth he should of understood it was a step up and kept the coaches even if only for a short period / first season. With his work at Everton they surely would have had a decent idea about top quality players that could be available. He even ended up over paying for one that he knew all about.
You can't be blindly loyal. I questioned in the summer why BR didn't buy a DM player and again this January no one recruited. One key injury and that could ruin the season. It makes little sense. Every manager has their weak spots.
What is Pelligrini doing with Demichelis? Why did Jose let Lukaku go if he only had Ba / Torres & Eto? Why did Wenger only sign one player when he should of brought 3 and then compound it with an atrocious January when he buys an injured one?
Overall a bit of luck helps but I think SAF used it all up last season! Moyes will flounder and be gone by the end of next season like Jose
posted on 4/2/14
Wow, the season ended?
=====
Ji Zus!
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
Different gravy to Moyes.
posted on 4/2/14
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
posted on 4/2/14
Absolut!
What is Pelligrini doing with Demichelis? - Would you have thrown Rodwell into that boxing ring?
Conclusion : Believe!
Why did Jose let Lukaku go if he only had Ba / Torres & Eto? - Because he has no plans for the kid, he can take points off the opposition and make them a profit come the summer.
Why did Wenger only sign one player when he should of brought 3? - Because he hates undermining his first team. If he'd bought the finished article every year, the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Wilshere or Ramsay would never have made it.
posted on 4/2/14
comment by Sticky Toffees (U19150)
posted 6 minutes ago
Wow, the season ended?
=====
Ji Zus!
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is he, some kind of wizard?
posted on 4/2/14
Martinez the contact washer.
posted on 4/2/14
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 43 seconds ago
Wash your contacts out - Martinez has transformed the footballing skills of every player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly! This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what? If you're going to be 5th-7th what difference does it make?
The loan signings have been brilliant, will you get all those permanently? The squad depth hasn't changed massively.
posted on 4/2/14
It appears he has, yes, yet he could still finish the season in 7th spot which is no better than Moyes.
=====
And what a marvellous journey it would have been.
Mirallas, Barkley the resigning of Baines - massive results.
posted on 4/2/14
Darkphoenix
This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what?
=======
River!
And you support Manchester United?
Get yourself down to Chelsea sharpish!
posted on 4/2/14
comment by Sticky Toffees (U19150)
posted 11 seconds ago
Darkphoenix
This whole Martinez is amazing malarky is hilarious. Yes, he makes the team player better but so what?
=======
River!
And you support Manchester United?
Get yourself down to Chelsea sharpish!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I fail to see why I need to. Can I not become an Evertonian because Martinez makes you play all fancy?
posted on 4/2/14
Can I not become an Evertonian
=======
River - the door is open.
posted on 4/2/14
Thank you OP.
Like I said, he may help your players play all fancy but he's not making your club over-achieve or make it appear that Moyes under-achieved.
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