if he gets six world titles then still go down as one of the greats
Most centuries at crucible (unlikely)
He already broke it in the 2013 final. He has 131 centuries at the Crucible. Hendry has 127.
He will definitely make the most centuries (he is only about 40 behind which he will do in 2 years easy).
Also I think if he wins the Worlds this year he will probably equal Hendry's record.
He will probably also equal the number of majors.
I doubt he will get another 10 ranking events though unless he plays another 5/6 years which is unlikely given his mental stability.
The truth is that right now he is in a good place, and if he had been in this mindset all his career he would have taken all these records anyway. No doubt in my mind that he is the greatest player to pick up a cue.
No, I meant most centuries in one tournament (16 by Hendry). The other is one of the ones I definitely wanted to see broken, which, as you pointed out, he managed
It's a shame that he met Steve Peters so late in his career as if he could have controlled the certain bipolar tendencies he has he would have obliterated all these records a long time ago. For me he's done enough though to say he's the best I've ever watched and for me is the greatest of all time. That 147 today was out of this world and no other player could hold the cue up in their wrong hand let alone pot balls at ease like Ronnie does. Absolute genius.
7 world titles Is likely for me, if he wins it this year he will add the 7th. 18 majors, for me yes. He is on 14 now, 2 more world titles, another master's and a long overdue 5th UK.
IMO pro tournaments won overall (both big and small, ranking and non ranking) is an underrated stat.
It's true that some small ones are significantly easier to win but then there are problems with all such single stats, for instance ranking tournaments won ignores Masters and Premier League victories.
I would venture to suggest that if Hendry rather than Davis had the record for most pro tournaments won then the stat would be quoted more often
I'm a Hendry fan and it's been a bit disappointing that once Hendry hit 30 he just wasn't really the same player. He would win at least 1 ranking title up until 2005 but that was all. Ronnie in his late 30's can still win a lot of major tournaments and I look back and think why couldn't Stephen do that Yips certaintly did not help Stephen's cause but still would have felt he could have won a lot more then he did.
Don't be sad Arsenal_49, Stephen still holds a lot of records that probably won't be beaten by Ronnie like 36 ranking titles.
I think Hendry was so used to winning that when mark Williams et al started beating him, he lost all confidence. Even through that, there's no question he underachieved in his later years. Imho he overachieved in his winning years, so maybe it evened out.
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One record Hendry would love to have off Ronnie but can't now and couldn't even if he came back a million times:
First Genius of Snooker.
Hendry won the world championship with a broken bone in his arm something no player has ever done and ever will.
Hendry won WCs against bunnies. The competition now is far better and the standard of snooker higher.
Hendry's 7 WCs are a bit like Schumacher's 7 WCs,most with no competition.
Typical bitter Ronnie bum boy always claiming that well let's take a look at who Ronnie has had to play in his 5 World Finals. Ali Carter twice, Graeme Dott, Barry Hawkins and John Higgins. 4 of those finals were always going to be a breeze through the park for Ronnie. Hendry had to face Jimmy White 4 times and Jimmy was very much an inform player and the Jimmy White of then was a lot better then most of the current crop of players i.e. Murphy, Selby, Macguire. He also had to face Ebdon and Williams. The only easy final he had was in 1995 against Nigel Bond. Ronnie also copied Hendrys attacking style as well. So if it wasn't for Stephen Hendry where would the likes of Ronnie, Higgins and Williams be?
I also consider it a bit of a myth that the competition now is a lot higher. I look at the top 16 players and most of them are nothing special. I mean Mark Selby was number 1 a year ago or so enough said and he's very overrated. He's only won 3 ranking titles, how on earth could a player who has won so little be world number one. John Higgins is now past it, Macguire again vastly overrated, along with Murphy. Judd Trump is inconsistent. Ali Carter is dreadful. The only players currently I look at apart from Ronnie and think are class or will be are Neil Robertson and Ding Junhui. As these are both winning tournaments regularly.
The standard overall yes is a lot higher due to the number of players playing the game but that's Barry Hearn's influence with the ammount of tournaments played every season and the fact players are coming through from China and other countries. With some of the tournaments having 128 players in this is giving the amateur lads vital experience.
The same thing very well could have been the case 20 years ago as well.
It isn't about who you face in the final, although I'd put Barry Hawkins and John Higgins above Jimmy White for sure. Having him in 4 finals really was taking the cake.
It's about how hard your overall draw was. Hendry, generally had much easier opposition on the whole, and he admits to it.
Also, I usually delete posts that are insulting, so both of you please stay civil.
Arsenal, I agree that the only players to challenge Ronnie are Ding and more realistically Robertson, Ronnie has the wood over Ding, but Robertson is a very good player.
Look at the 1990's, Hendry, Parrott, White, O'sullivan, Higgins, Williams all ranking winners, the later 3 heading for the peak of their careers ( ronnie is still there now, argubly better than ever ) . Hendry one when hit was harder......................... but Ronnie is the best ever, ask Hendry. Ronnie shoudl get to 6 world titles this year, who will stop him now his head is sorted?
Ronnie, Higgins and Williams were youngsters in 1992-96. When they started to mature, suddenly Hendry only won one Major more. From age 28 on, he won one Major. It can be no surprise that the extra competition affected his title haul.
Would be great to see a Hendry of 1993 v O' Sullivan of today. Of course a 17 year old Ronnie beat the man of the 1990's at the 1993 UK.
Daniel_You would put Barry Hawkins ahead of Jimmy White? Barry Hawkins is ok but he's nowhere near the class of Jimmy White. Jimmy won 10 ranking titles and he was a class player. He deserved to win at least one world title it is a shame he couldn't do it but obviously as a Hendry fan I didn't want him to beat Hendry in any of those World finals lol.
I would put him ahead of white in terms of that World Final. Not as an overall player. Barry played amazing and in a world final versus Jimmy, he's the one who would win imho. Jimmy just didn't have the bottle.
White as an overall player was in a league of his own. He could do things even Ronnie couldn't.
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posted on 2/3/14
if he gets six world titles then still go down as one of the greats
posted on 2/3/14
Most centuries at crucible (unlikely)
He already broke it in the 2013 final. He has 131 centuries at the Crucible. Hendry has 127.
He will definitely make the most centuries (he is only about 40 behind which he will do in 2 years easy).
Also I think if he wins the Worlds this year he will probably equal Hendry's record.
He will probably also equal the number of majors.
I doubt he will get another 10 ranking events though unless he plays another 5/6 years which is unlikely given his mental stability.
The truth is that right now he is in a good place, and if he had been in this mindset all his career he would have taken all these records anyway. No doubt in my mind that he is the greatest player to pick up a cue.
posted on 2/3/14
No, I meant most centuries in one tournament (16 by Hendry). The other is one of the ones I definitely wanted to see broken, which, as you pointed out, he managed
posted on 2/3/14
It's a shame that he met Steve Peters so late in his career as if he could have controlled the certain bipolar tendencies he has he would have obliterated all these records a long time ago. For me he's done enough though to say he's the best I've ever watched and for me is the greatest of all time. That 147 today was out of this world and no other player could hold the cue up in their wrong hand let alone pot balls at ease like Ronnie does. Absolute genius.
posted on 3/3/14
7 world titles Is likely for me, if he wins it this year he will add the 7th. 18 majors, for me yes. He is on 14 now, 2 more world titles, another master's and a long overdue 5th UK.
posted on 3/3/14
IMO pro tournaments won overall (both big and small, ranking and non ranking) is an underrated stat.
It's true that some small ones are significantly easier to win but then there are problems with all such single stats, for instance ranking tournaments won ignores Masters and Premier League victories.
posted on 3/3/14
I would venture to suggest that if Hendry rather than Davis had the record for most pro tournaments won then the stat would be quoted more often
posted on 3/3/14
I'm a Hendry fan and it's been a bit disappointing that once Hendry hit 30 he just wasn't really the same player. He would win at least 1 ranking title up until 2005 but that was all. Ronnie in his late 30's can still win a lot of major tournaments and I look back and think why couldn't Stephen do that Yips certaintly did not help Stephen's cause but still would have felt he could have won a lot more then he did.
posted on 3/3/14
Don't be sad Arsenal_49, Stephen still holds a lot of records that probably won't be beaten by Ronnie like 36 ranking titles.
posted on 3/3/14
I think Hendry was so used to winning that when mark Williams et al started beating him, he lost all confidence. Even through that, there's no question he underachieved in his later years. Imho he overachieved in his winning years, so maybe it evened out.
posted on 4/3/14
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posted on 10/3/14
One record Hendry would love to have off Ronnie but can't now and couldn't even if he came back a million times:
First Genius of Snooker.
posted on 10/3/14
Hendry won the world championship with a broken bone in his arm something no player has ever done and ever will.
posted on 11/3/14
Hendry won WCs against bunnies. The competition now is far better and the standard of snooker higher.
posted on 11/3/14
Hendry's 7 WCs are a bit like Schumacher's 7 WCs,most with no competition.
posted on 12/3/14
Typical bitter Ronnie bum boy always claiming that well let's take a look at who Ronnie has had to play in his 5 World Finals. Ali Carter twice, Graeme Dott, Barry Hawkins and John Higgins. 4 of those finals were always going to be a breeze through the park for Ronnie. Hendry had to face Jimmy White 4 times and Jimmy was very much an inform player and the Jimmy White of then was a lot better then most of the current crop of players i.e. Murphy, Selby, Macguire. He also had to face Ebdon and Williams. The only easy final he had was in 1995 against Nigel Bond. Ronnie also copied Hendrys attacking style as well. So if it wasn't for Stephen Hendry where would the likes of Ronnie, Higgins and Williams be?
I also consider it a bit of a myth that the competition now is a lot higher. I look at the top 16 players and most of them are nothing special. I mean Mark Selby was number 1 a year ago or so enough said and he's very overrated. He's only won 3 ranking titles, how on earth could a player who has won so little be world number one. John Higgins is now past it, Macguire again vastly overrated, along with Murphy. Judd Trump is inconsistent. Ali Carter is dreadful. The only players currently I look at apart from Ronnie and think are class or will be are Neil Robertson and Ding Junhui. As these are both winning tournaments regularly.
The standard overall yes is a lot higher due to the number of players playing the game but that's Barry Hearn's influence with the ammount of tournaments played every season and the fact players are coming through from China and other countries. With some of the tournaments having 128 players in this is giving the amateur lads vital experience.
The same thing very well could have been the case 20 years ago as well.
posted on 12/3/14
It isn't about who you face in the final, although I'd put Barry Hawkins and John Higgins above Jimmy White for sure. Having him in 4 finals really was taking the cake.
It's about how hard your overall draw was. Hendry, generally had much easier opposition on the whole, and he admits to it.
posted on 12/3/14
Also, I usually delete posts that are insulting, so both of you please stay civil.
posted on 12/3/14
Arsenal, I agree that the only players to challenge Ronnie are Ding and more realistically Robertson, Ronnie has the wood over Ding, but Robertson is a very good player.
Look at the 1990's, Hendry, Parrott, White, O'sullivan, Higgins, Williams all ranking winners, the later 3 heading for the peak of their careers ( ronnie is still there now, argubly better than ever ) . Hendry one when hit was harder......................... but Ronnie is the best ever, ask Hendry. Ronnie shoudl get to 6 world titles this year, who will stop him now his head is sorted?
posted on 12/3/14
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posted on 12/3/14
Ronnie, Higgins and Williams were youngsters in 1992-96. When they started to mature, suddenly Hendry only won one Major more. From age 28 on, he won one Major. It can be no surprise that the extra competition affected his title haul.
posted on 12/3/14
Would be great to see a Hendry of 1993 v O' Sullivan of today. Of course a 17 year old Ronnie beat the man of the 1990's at the 1993 UK.
posted on 12/3/14
Daniel_You would put Barry Hawkins ahead of Jimmy White? Barry Hawkins is ok but he's nowhere near the class of Jimmy White. Jimmy won 10 ranking titles and he was a class player. He deserved to win at least one world title it is a shame he couldn't do it but obviously as a Hendry fan I didn't want him to beat Hendry in any of those World finals lol.
posted on 13/3/14
I would put him ahead of white in terms of that World Final. Not as an overall player. Barry played amazing and in a world final versus Jimmy, he's the one who would win imho. Jimmy just didn't have the bottle.
posted on 13/3/14
White as an overall player was in a league of his own. He could do things even Ronnie couldn't.
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