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He revolutionised the English game and it was only when other sides started to adopt his methods that English sides truely became competitive in Europe once again
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No sorry
Always rated Wenger as a good manager but this isn't true. England's brief spell of dominance in Europe was brought by Benitez, Mourinho, Ferguson.
When he first arrived he was definitely ahead of his times but now there are alot of managers aroumd with a similar style which is one of the reasons he hasnt been as successful recently. The only thing he has over them is experience.
Always rated Wenger as a good manager but this isn't true. England's brief spell of dominance in Europe was brought by Benitez, Mourinho, Ferguson
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have to agree with that
His methods of training, fitness monitoring, scouting were, at the time, ahead of the game.
Teams in England didnt dominate Europe until they had caught up with Arsenal in this respect. Training, talent scouting, fitness monitoring, diets
Yeah his fitness monitoring is great. Hence why arsenals have a permanently full treatment room
His methods of training, fitness monitoring, scouting were, at the time, ahead of the game.
Teams in England didnt dominate Europe until they had caught up with Arsenal in this respect. Training, talent scouting, fitness monitoring, diets
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It was common for footballers to train and then spend all evening down the pub. Wenger cut out all this, changed the diets, banned smoking etc etc brought in fit, athletic players that could run for 90+3 minutes end to end, everybody else followed.
He was ahead of his time (for England which was still backward), and without him I doubt the likes of Rodgers and Martinez would be managing on Merseyside.
His first 6-7 years were brilliant. He built great teams, played superb football and changed the landscape of English football for the better.
His last 10 years have been distinctly average, he has too much control and his methods are no longer cutting edge.
I also don't agree concerning his conduct. He is a good winner (when he used to win) but an abysmal loser, and the number of red cards his teams have picked up and his ignorance when they arrive show he is not the nice man he is made out to be.
One of the great managers in English football in my lifetime, but also a flawed individual whose failure on the European stage leaves a permanent mark against his name.
Didn't English teams dominate Europe when Wenger was just a lad? I mean 77 / 78 / 81/ 84 Villa in 82 Forrest in 79 and 80?
Good manager but he's very lucky he was at Arsenal for all these years of no success. He'd have lost his job at allot of other clubs.
His impact on the professional culture of English football has been discussed many times but arguably it's his legacy within this country. Would that culture of changed anyway? Probably, the influx of money would have ensured it, but he certainly escalated it and in this sense he was great for football in England.
He's also built a number of fantastic teams and whilst some people cite his slavish adherence to a style of play as a weakness, it's also one of the reasons I respect him and have enjoyed watching Arsenal through the years. They play the type of football I enjoy watching.
He's not a good loser but very few top managers (or indeed players) are good losers so I don't think that's too much of an issue. You'd struggle to catalogue all the incidents that he didn't see though!
1000 games is a great achievement in modern times however and whatever people may say about Arsenal relative lack of success recently I agree with the OP, he's been a positive influence on football in England.
Every time i think of Wenger i see him trying to do that stupid jacket up
indeed thanks for forgetting that winning matters.
thanks for getting rid of the kicking and fighting and red cards and all the small players who keep getting injured and finally sincerely thanks for 2003 and 2004 where the football was a joy
What result do you guys want from this game?, I can see Arsenal winning this personally.
Arsenal winning at Chelsea? Nah.
I want a draw, but suspect Chelsea will win 1-0 or 2-0.
Mourinho doesn't lose home games, and Arsenal don't win big games
I will add though, that if Arsenal do manage to win, they will win the title IMO.
I hope he nuts Maureen tomorrow. Certainly deserves it for his prissy press conferences about Arsene recently.
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posted on 21/3/14
He revolutionised the English game and it was only when other sides started to adopt his methods that English sides truely became competitive in Europe once again
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No sorry
Always rated Wenger as a good manager but this isn't true. England's brief spell of dominance in Europe was brought by Benitez, Mourinho, Ferguson.
posted on 21/3/14
When he first arrived he was definitely ahead of his times but now there are alot of managers aroumd with a similar style which is one of the reasons he hasnt been as successful recently. The only thing he has over them is experience.
posted on 21/3/14
Always rated Wenger as a good manager but this isn't true. England's brief spell of dominance in Europe was brought by Benitez, Mourinho, Ferguson
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have to agree with that
posted on 21/3/14
His methods of training, fitness monitoring, scouting were, at the time, ahead of the game.
Teams in England didnt dominate Europe until they had caught up with Arsenal in this respect. Training, talent scouting, fitness monitoring, diets
posted on 21/3/14
Yeah his fitness monitoring is great. Hence why arsenals have a permanently full treatment room
posted on 21/3/14
His methods of training, fitness monitoring, scouting were, at the time, ahead of the game.
Teams in England didnt dominate Europe until they had caught up with Arsenal in this respect. Training, talent scouting, fitness monitoring, diets
------------------
It was common for footballers to train and then spend all evening down the pub. Wenger cut out all this, changed the diets, banned smoking etc etc brought in fit, athletic players that could run for 90+3 minutes end to end, everybody else followed.
posted on 21/3/14
He was ahead of his time (for England which was still backward), and without him I doubt the likes of Rodgers and Martinez would be managing on Merseyside.
His first 6-7 years were brilliant. He built great teams, played superb football and changed the landscape of English football for the better.
His last 10 years have been distinctly average, he has too much control and his methods are no longer cutting edge.
I also don't agree concerning his conduct. He is a good winner (when he used to win) but an abysmal loser, and the number of red cards his teams have picked up and his ignorance when they arrive show he is not the nice man he is made out to be.
One of the great managers in English football in my lifetime, but also a flawed individual whose failure on the European stage leaves a permanent mark against his name.
posted on 21/3/14
Didn't English teams dominate Europe when Wenger was just a lad? I mean 77 / 78 / 81/ 84 Villa in 82 Forrest in 79 and 80?
Good manager but he's very lucky he was at Arsenal for all these years of no success. He'd have lost his job at allot of other clubs.
posted on 21/3/14
His impact on the professional culture of English football has been discussed many times but arguably it's his legacy within this country. Would that culture of changed anyway? Probably, the influx of money would have ensured it, but he certainly escalated it and in this sense he was great for football in England.
He's also built a number of fantastic teams and whilst some people cite his slavish adherence to a style of play as a weakness, it's also one of the reasons I respect him and have enjoyed watching Arsenal through the years. They play the type of football I enjoy watching.
He's not a good loser but very few top managers (or indeed players) are good losers so I don't think that's too much of an issue. You'd struggle to catalogue all the incidents that he didn't see though!
1000 games is a great achievement in modern times however and whatever people may say about Arsenal relative lack of success recently I agree with the OP, he's been a positive influence on football in England.
posted on 21/3/14
Every time i think of Wenger i see him trying to do that stupid jacket up
posted on 21/3/14
indeed thanks for forgetting that winning matters.
thanks for getting rid of the kicking and fighting and red cards and all the small players who keep getting injured and finally sincerely thanks for 2003 and 2004 where the football was a joy
posted on 21/3/14
What result do you guys want from this game?, I can see Arsenal winning this personally.
posted on 21/3/14
Arsenal winning at Chelsea? Nah.
I want a draw, but suspect Chelsea will win 1-0 or 2-0.
Mourinho doesn't lose home games, and Arsenal don't win big games
posted on 21/3/14
I will add though, that if Arsenal do manage to win, they will win the title IMO.
posted on 21/3/14
I hope he nuts Maureen tomorrow. Certainly deserves it for his prissy press conferences about Arsene recently.
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