No excuse.
4 officials and none of them could see which player it was? Do me a favour.
10000000% red and I wanted an arsenal win
The wrong man sent off but this was due to the fact that officials are shocking every single week
As for people saying the ref asked him was it you ? This is a joke
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Righteous you have completely missed the point of the article. I'm more claiming that it's ridiculous for the ref to take Ox's word for it and has to go with his gut instinct. It was the liners call though wasn't it?
No, respected. You have also missed the point..
A lot of pundits and fans have said that the ref should have taken Ox's word for it - which is ridiculous
if you are unsure, don't give
If the ref sent the wrong guy off that means he didn't see the situation. How can you give a penalty and a red if you are not 100% sure?
I see what you mean. Having a left back sent off is arguably more detrimental than having an attacking midfielder sent off, so Chamberlain could have been trying to sacrifice himself for the sake of his team. Interesting point.
he saw the incident but mixed up the culprit because
1. Ox and Gibbs had swapped positions on the pitch
2. They have identical haircuts and complexion
3. there was a big crowd
@The Kaisers Trainers (U5676)
You are lying mate, ref saw nothing.Only gave penalty after consulting linesman.
Its a shocker of a decision.
3. there was a big crowd
eh?
None of those reasons are valid.
No defence for the ref at all.Absolute shocker
The analogy doesn't follow. For starters, your scenario by Suarez and Aspas would drag the club into disrepute and there will also be a big retrospective crackdown. No player would risk that. The ref clearly didn't make use of his common sense. The very reactions of both players involved in the incident should tell you something's terrible wrong.
Arsenal fans trying to deflect attention from their abysmal display.
YOU'RE ALL MISSING THE POINT ARGHHHH
Thank you, Borini!!
SJB -
Would the FA take away the 3 points? The club might get a hefty fine and the players could get banned but that 3 points against a rival could win them the league.
I think my question would hold a lot more significance if the score wasn't already 2-0
The point is there are 4 officials.
Your scenario assumes none of the other officials saw which player it was either, which is ludicrous.
At least one of them would be certain who it was. Refs just ignore other officials unfortunately.
all my reasons are valid - you're splitting hairs about linesman/ref
it was mistaken Identity for the reasons I gave
Ref didn't see it, Lino didn't flag. He got the info from the ear piece, handball didn't deny a goal scoring opportunity and should have been a yellow. Whoever claims to have seen it saw it so well that they didn't even know who committed the offence. Simply an awful decision from every angle
Would the FA take away the 3 points? The club might get a hefty fine and the players could get banned but that 3 points against a rival could win them the league.
I think my question would hold a lot more significance if the score wasn't already 2-0
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The club MAY get a fine for such gross misconduct. The players would be heavily fined by the club - except it's a corrupt club - and even more principled clubs may ban the players for games. And there will be unbearable public scrutiny at such outright cheating on the players. It wouldn't be worth it in an environment like the Premiership.
How can you send off a player without ensuring your fellow official got the identity spot-on. The ref didn't even look bothered with establishing the truth. As I said, just watching Ox and Gibbs and other plaers' reaction should have told the ref, if he had a bit of emotional inteligence, that he was totally wrong.
According to the rules of the game it wasn't even a sending off. You can't get sent off for preventing a goal kick!!
According to the rules of the game it wasn't even a sending off. You can't get sent off for preventing a goal kick!!
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That's a desperate argument for me. Stopping a shot towards goal with an outstretched hand as the last man is a red. It's not for the ref to judge whether it was going in or out. Impossible to tell in real time.
Very good point OP. The ref has to send off who the officials agree who they thought it was. You can't have players saying it was me not him. That's crazy.
This doesn't take away from the fact that it was a ridiculous situation.
It is hilarious though that Arsenal fans are calling the officials racist because of it. If it were two white players, would it be racist? Well this has happened with white players.
They'll call anything racist nowadays.
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posted on 22/3/14
Naked women mainly
posted on 22/3/14
No excuse.
4 officials and none of them could see which player it was? Do me a favour.
posted on 22/3/14
10000000% red and I wanted an arsenal win
The wrong man sent off but this was due to the fact that officials are shocking every single week
As for people saying the ref asked him was it you ? This is a joke
posted on 22/3/14
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posted on 22/3/14
Righteous you have completely missed the point of the article. I'm more claiming that it's ridiculous for the ref to take Ox's word for it and has to go with his gut instinct. It was the liners call though wasn't it?
posted on 22/3/14
No, respected. You have also missed the point..
A lot of pundits and fans have said that the ref should have taken Ox's word for it - which is ridiculous
posted on 22/3/14
if you are unsure, don't give
posted on 22/3/14
If the ref sent the wrong guy off that means he didn't see the situation. How can you give a penalty and a red if you are not 100% sure?
posted on 22/3/14
what SASAS said
posted on 22/3/14
I see what you mean. Having a left back sent off is arguably more detrimental than having an attacking midfielder sent off, so Chamberlain could have been trying to sacrifice himself for the sake of his team. Interesting point.
posted on 22/3/14
he saw the incident but mixed up the culprit because
1. Ox and Gibbs had swapped positions on the pitch
2. They have identical haircuts and complexion
3. there was a big crowd
posted on 22/3/14
@The Kaisers Trainers (U5676)
You are lying mate, ref saw nothing.Only gave penalty after consulting linesman.
Its a shocker of a decision.
posted on 22/3/14
3. there was a big crowd
eh?
None of those reasons are valid.
posted on 22/3/14
No defence for the ref at all.Absolute shocker
posted on 22/3/14
The analogy doesn't follow. For starters, your scenario by Suarez and Aspas would drag the club into disrepute and there will also be a big retrospective crackdown. No player would risk that. The ref clearly didn't make use of his common sense. The very reactions of both players involved in the incident should tell you something's terrible wrong.
posted on 22/3/14
Arsenal fans trying to deflect attention from their abysmal display.
posted on 22/3/14
YOU'RE ALL MISSING THE POINT ARGHHHH
Thank you, Borini!!
posted on 22/3/14
SJB -
Would the FA take away the 3 points? The club might get a hefty fine and the players could get banned but that 3 points against a rival could win them the league.
I think my question would hold a lot more significance if the score wasn't already 2-0
posted on 22/3/14
The point is there are 4 officials.
Your scenario assumes none of the other officials saw which player it was either, which is ludicrous.
At least one of them would be certain who it was. Refs just ignore other officials unfortunately.
posted on 22/3/14
all my reasons are valid - you're splitting hairs about linesman/ref
it was mistaken Identity for the reasons I gave
posted on 22/3/14
Ref didn't see it, Lino didn't flag. He got the info from the ear piece, handball didn't deny a goal scoring opportunity and should have been a yellow. Whoever claims to have seen it saw it so well that they didn't even know who committed the offence. Simply an awful decision from every angle
posted on 22/3/14
Would the FA take away the 3 points? The club might get a hefty fine and the players could get banned but that 3 points against a rival could win them the league.
I think my question would hold a lot more significance if the score wasn't already 2-0
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The club MAY get a fine for such gross misconduct. The players would be heavily fined by the club - except it's a corrupt club - and even more principled clubs may ban the players for games. And there will be unbearable public scrutiny at such outright cheating on the players. It wouldn't be worth it in an environment like the Premiership.
How can you send off a player without ensuring your fellow official got the identity spot-on. The ref didn't even look bothered with establishing the truth. As I said, just watching Ox and Gibbs and other plaers' reaction should have told the ref, if he had a bit of emotional inteligence, that he was totally wrong.
posted on 22/3/14
According to the rules of the game it wasn't even a sending off. You can't get sent off for preventing a goal kick!!
posted on 22/3/14
According to the rules of the game it wasn't even a sending off. You can't get sent off for preventing a goal kick!!
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That's a desperate argument for me. Stopping a shot towards goal with an outstretched hand as the last man is a red. It's not for the ref to judge whether it was going in or out. Impossible to tell in real time.
posted on 22/3/14
Very good point OP. The ref has to send off who the officials agree who they thought it was. You can't have players saying it was me not him. That's crazy.
This doesn't take away from the fact that it was a ridiculous situation.
It is hilarious though that Arsenal fans are calling the officials racist because of it. If it were two white players, would it be racist? Well this has happened with white players.
They'll call anything racist nowadays.
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