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Should Moyes change the United philosophy?

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posted on 19/4/14

Does he sacrifice what he needs to in the short term, whether it be youth promotion, attacking style, flying wing-play, a focus on British and Irish talent,

How's he meant to sacrifice something he's not using or doing?

Fees and wages is something he's already sacrificed.

He spent 27 mil and a 100k a week and managed to make our midfeild worse

posted on 19/4/14

like you i believe moyes will be here
he will spend a stupid amount of money mostly overpaying hopefully for the likes of mata rather fellanis.

and he will still be a $hit manager nxt season. I have zero faith in him taking utd forward and i am already bracing myself for another year of failure.

posted on 19/4/14

Has he sacrificed any of those things yet? We still play with wingers, though more narrow. And we still have a British core. Our style of spreading the play and delivering the ball from wide is still there, and the fee/wage structure hasn't yet been altered much imo. Mata came close, but I think Ferguson would have spent that kind of money on a player he wanted as well. And wage wise we have lots of players on 100k/p/w +. IMO, Moyes has been trying to force things instead of doing what he feels confident in in terms of playing style for the most part. I'd rather he do things his own way and not be a Fergie-lite, but it will be hard for me to embrace if the change is extremely different compared to the traditions of the club.

Are you sure this is the article for you Stretty. Not to be rude, but everyone knows your agenda. I'd rather not see the same thing over and over and over. I know you don't like Moyes, that's fine. But I'd appreciate it if on this article you could post about the Manchester United manager with a measure of respect. Cheers.

posted on 19/4/14

I want him gone

posted on 19/4/14

No, your points were wrong, and your explanation in that last post were even worse.

posted on 19/4/14

Your opinion. That's cool.

posted on 19/4/14

Keep up the good work Moysie.

posted on 19/4/14

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posted on 19/4/14

This isn't your propaganda thread. You've given your say. We know what you think. Good for you. Don't use my work to pander your biased, unfair opinion.

posted on 19/4/14

Your last few years under Fergie were some of the worst I've seen aesthetically for a top side. Moyes (probably not capable of this) would do very well to modernise your style to a more at attacking high pressure game.

posted on 19/4/14

Can you please list the positive aspects of Moyes as Utd manager?

posted on 19/4/14

Furthermore, what evidence is there to suggest Moyes has a philosophy compatible with a club like Utd?

posted on 19/4/14

I could write an article on why Moyes is a good manager, but it's much easier to look him up + read what former players + fans of his teams have said. Tons of info out there and Ferguson did t just pick him "because he was Scottish", contrary to popular belief. I think his best quality as a manager is his ability to knit teams together and get the players playing for each other. He's not the whole package yet imo, but nothing like the terrible manager he's been made out to be after 1 season struggling in the situation he's in.

posted on 19/4/14

Moyes is awful. Most Utd fans seem to have accepted this. Why haven't you? Martinez is proving that by playing great football with Moyes' old players and challenging for the CL.

As much as it is very funny to watch, I'd rather be fighting it out with Utd at the top of the table than Chelsea and City. He is your Souness, and the sooner you get rid the better it will be. Unlike us when we had Souness, you do have the money (apparently) to get in good players.

posted on 19/4/14

People criticising him on here aren't doing it without a validated reason.

This season has been nothing short of atrocious, in relation to our previous seasons. Very similar squad. Anyone who's saying the squad has aged, well yes, that's correct- the whole squad has aged, so the older players got older to the detriment of the squad, but the inexperienced and younger players gained a years experience so that could be argued as a positive to negate the negative

posted on 19/4/14

comment by The Number 4 Shirt. (U19487)
posted 22 minutes ago
I could write an article on why Moyes is a good manager, but it's much easier to look him up + read what former players + fans of his teams have said. Tons of info out there and Ferguson did t just pick him "because he was Scottish", contrary to popular belief. I think his best quality as a manager is his ability to knit teams together and get the players playing for each other. He's not the whole package yet imo, but nothing like the terrible manager he's been made out to be after 1 season struggling in the situation he's in.
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I have not called Moyes a terrible manager even though he is doing a terrible job. I have said he is not capable at this level.

I would suggest you read what Jagielka, Howard, Stones, Barkley have said recently about Martinez in comparison to Moyes.

Baines refusing to leave Everton to join the manager extraordinaire should also tell you a lot.

I met an Everton fan on a business trip last week and he's still laughing that we bought donkeyfro

posted on 19/4/14

comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 27 minutes ago
People criticising him on here aren't doing it without a validated reason.

This season has been nothing short of atrocious, in relation to our previous seasons. Very similar squad. Anyone who's saying the squad has aged, well yes, that's correct- the whole squad has aged, so the older players got older to the detriment of the squad, but the inexperienced and younger players gained a years experience so that could be argued as a positive to negate the negative
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Only our squad has aged my good man, all the other teams have been hiding in a space-time continuum and have not aged a bit

posted on 19/4/14

For Moyes to change the Utd philosophy, he needs one of his own.

What is that philosophy my good man?

posted on 19/4/14

comment by The God Fowler - Farewell to the irreplaceable, the one and only, Jamie Carragher (U2538)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
Moyes is awful. Most Utd fans seem to have accepted this. Why haven't you? Martinez is proving that by playing great football with Moyes' old players and challenging for the CL.

As much as it is very funny to watch, I'd rather be fighting it out with Utd at the top of the table than Chelsea and City. He is your Souness, and the sooner you get rid the better it will be. Unlike us when we had Souness, you do have the money (apparently) to get in good players.
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Scouser with more sense than some of our fans

posted on 19/4/14

Curb the condescension. You aren't correct in saying Moyes is incapable and will never be, anymore than Fergie was in saying he was and will grow into his role. Moyes philosophy at Everton was to be hard working, solid and very difficult to beat. At United, that will have to evolve and change. But one summer isn't enough to do it. We have played better towards the end of the season, and Moyes has shown bravery at times with his changes. Like I said on a thread the other day, I will make my final call on Moyes AFTER this pre-season. I want to see how he handles this summer, and I won't be distracted by us signing big names. If they are the wrong players. Personally, I believe Mata was the worse signing Moyes made this season. I don't think he'll cut it as a United player. Neither will Fellaini, but Mata will be around longer and actually do more harm in the long term, in spite of him being a fabulously gifted player. I've digressed, you are entitled to think what you want about Moyes, about me and about my article, but after seeing that embarrassment of an article by Stretty when I came to log back on, I'm surprised more people haven't tired of him quickly and got rid of him from their experience of the site. He gave his opinion, was thanked for it + asked to be respectful towards my club + manager of my article, refused + insulted me, and then after I said "Your opinion, that's cool" he posted a tirade of utter carp about Moyes that was blatant propaganda against him, without considering any of the opposing arguments or mitigating factors. People with such an extreme agent can't be reasoned with, so I deleted his post + blocked him, knowning I'd beer get a stimulating dabate out of him. Next thing I know his toys are out of the pram and there's an article about me being "a broad". Ridiculous child that one.

posted on 19/4/14

Agent = agenda
Beer = never

Smartphones...

posted on 18/7/14

David Moyes will be Manchester United manager next season, make no mistake



Love this article.

posted on 18/7/14

What name did you use to have OP?

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