Keep Brian and set this club back another season.

I'm all for continuity but keeping someone I'll-equipped for the job just for the sake of it is complete nonsense.

Can you give me five real reasons why should retain his services? Can't think of one.

1. He knows the league
2. Hes been promoted from this league
3. He has financial muscle available to him
4. He has less pressure on him next season than he did this season
5. Hes got a point to prove to himself, the fans and the fans and the owner

1) He hides it well, no evidence in his tactics thus far. I know this league well too but I'm not equipped to manage Leeds United. A bit like Brian.....
2) Once. Warnock was promoted from this league too. What's the difference? He was bloody awful here. A bit like Brian.....
3) He's had financial backing already and largely wasted it. Would you trust him to spend yet more? I wouldn't.
4) No, I disagree. He largely had the fans with him and an indifferent ownership in place (up to Xmas anyway). The fans have largely turned against him, and rightly so, due to his appalling team management. Cellino has a short fuse too and has already sacked him once. Pressure to get it right will have increased immeasurably with no distractions off the field to blame. Dead man walking.
5) I'd agree but that in itself is not enough. One could argue that most if not all players have a point to prove. Shall we keep them too, many of which were bought in by McDermott himself.

Heres 3 reasons why he should be allowed to continue:

1. He's a proven good manager, how many managers would have been successful working within a background of chaos, uncertainty, poor club spirit, lack of leadership from the top executive?

2, A chance to foster stability and team spirit starting anew under new ownership, new season and some new players...old has gone, now it's new!!

3. What's the point in sacking him...they can't all be bad managers at Leeds...when are the fans and executive going to stop sacking managers and give them more time?

A good article, 5 stars from me!

Fans don't sack managers.

He's not good enough. Why persevere?

Has to go.

You make good points but what needs to be taken into consideration is how appaling he and the players were treated this season with all the off field issues and trust me, I know, this will have affected the players mentality during games and training and caused friction between everyone including the manager. The money he spent was what 3 million, thats what we need to spend per player not on 4 or 5. To have a multitude of tactics you need a multitude of versatile players, leeds dont have that, we need players who we can mix and match to spice our tactics up, most of the squad cant do that. If you read an article a few weeks ago about a letter alrayes (I think it was him) sent Brian after the wednesday result youd know that the final decision of tactics and squad selection had to be run past him 24hrs before match day for the thumbs up, whos to say this wasnt changed by the writer of the letter, Brian may not have been in control of the squad as we thought

Stevie, some could ask all the managers everybody are doing one over, ie managers they think should be here!..

How many of their managers under the strain Leeds United has been under with all the so called money makers taking us that step further, how many off them would have done better?..

To tell the truth, I don't think any!..

McD made change's when he came in and stopped the rot, odd, because Cellino takes over and finds the rot is deeper and in places nobody could ever have dreamt of!..

The club was/is rotting from the top to bottom and any manager would have had the same stick McD has had!..

Oh, and blame!..

I beg to differ fans do sack managers, what a naive comment.

He wasn't a bad manager at Reading so why should he be a bad manager at Leeds?
Would you have been a good manager at Leeds against the backdrop of uncertainty, chaos and a morbid, general feeling of staleness of ideas within the club, no progress and leadership, no encouragement for success?

Under GFH, he had to submit a report to Bahrain at least 24 hours before every game to state his strategy, squad and team selection and this had to be approved by GFH. Hardly a no-pressure situation and, quite frankly, I'm surprised he agreed to work under those conditions. I don't believe any good manager could endure such torrid meddling. The fact he did must make him an ideal choice for Cellino, who looks like he does things the same way.

I think BM will go before next season.

There that's out of the way.



Personally I believe he is a decent man and a good manager. Sadly he came to our club at the wrong time for him. I reckon had he been supported fully from the start we all might have a different view of him, but that was not to be.

I don't believe any manager would have succeeded at Leeds over the last few years.



The fact is we need the new broom to sweep away the cobwebs of malaise and misery that have engulfed our great club.

BM will be a casualty of that sweeping.

Keep him for 3 months after backing him in the window and if he's not improved your fortunes then let him go.

I don't believe anyone would have done any better for you under the last regime. Given backing I still think he'll come good for you.

I think he stayed because he know GFH were out the door once cellino was approved, the man in my opinion needs a medal for staying on as an assistant manager to GFH

I think Cellino will give him a few months, but unless there is a massive transformation in how the team plays and results (Cellino will play a big role in this regarding player acquisition) I can't see him lasting long - but you never know. I hope that under the new regime he manages to come good.

As I stated before the fans can sack the manager by creating and manipulating a situation where the executive have to make a decision...it also worked the other way with the fans...chiefly who reinstated McDermott when he got the sack, could it have been the fans?!

We can always sack the manager though for any number of reasons:
A rainy and wet winter
A wet summer
The pies are too expensive
The toilets are overflowing with...
The tea is insipid
The striker is insipid
The manager is bald and ugly
The manager is too good looking, up himself
The manager always has a good word for manu

comment by Eric the Happy (Qui andiamo Qui andiamo Qui andiamo..!!!) (U4604)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I think BM will go before next season.

There that's out of the way.



Personally I believe he is a decent man and a good manager. Sadly he came to our club at the wrong time for him. I reckon had he been supported fully from the start we all might have a different view of him, but that was not to be.

I don't believe any manager would have succeeded at Leeds over the last few years.



The fact is we need the new broom to sweep away the cobwebs of malaise and misery that have engulfed our great club.

BM will be a casualty of that sweeping.




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exactly so

would only add - in business, you need momentum, and BM has lost it (not his fault, but.....)

Also, a certain type of manager would have used the problems of the last year to forge a "its us against the world" mentality for himself and his players..............Brian didn't appear to do that

I thought he had a very outside chance of staying on if, after the TO was resolved, he had managed to get some momentum going at last. The Forest result (and the previous performances, albeit we won a couple) show there is no such momentum.

And, for the record, I have been a strong supporter of BM for most of his time here. Don't see it now, but would be delighted to be proved wrong and see him do a Pearson and bounce back from the dead

A manager is a leader,

A leader should lead by example, it's his job to rally the troops in the face of adversity, Brian didn't and couldn't do that.

The leaders job is to use his natural and acquired skills and know how to keep the squad together, motivated and inspired as well as playing good football during the doom and gloom as well as the good times, Brian has done none of it.

Moyes and Haughton recently got sacked for those reasons, other managers have gone the same way; I don't see any reason as to why BM should be any different.

Try watching the film ZULU.

Submitting reports / team sheets to GFH was reported in a news article, it also said that Brian ignored their requests, which means Brian put out the team he wanted.

Brian also told Cellino to Foook off when Cellino tried to help him, now Brian has U Turned and is crawling up Cellinos proverbial cos he thought Cellino wouldn't get in.

Food for thought, what type of manager is Brian behind the scenes?

Cellino will sack Brian next week after our last match

Should the unthinkable happen and he is not sacked, when do you think the new manager will be appointed?

I suspect around October

2020VisionofLeeds

Look at Alex Ferguson. The faithful amongst the red shower wanted rid of him in the early days and he actually had support from his board...!

BM, in my opinion, will be on his way soon. But if Massimo Cellino says he's keeping him I'll not be overly worried. The only thing that would make me worry is the results of this next window. If he's backed and he brings in quality we'll all (mostly) change our opinions of how we're going to do. He might be able to turn the fans round.



LeedsLuvr

I don't recall any football in the film Zulu. Are you sure you're not thinking of that other Anglo Zulu war epic Mike Bassett VC ?

Agree with that 2020.

My point exactly 2020.

Most successful managers have a bad season then turn things around and breed success

Brian should be given the chance to prove himself under normal conditions and with proper financial backing, get rid of him in December if hes continued the rot from this season

I'm not sure on this now. I've backed him because I don't think he's had a fair crack at the whip at all. GFH had no idea and it seems they undermined him. As Jonty quite rightly said - the TO did de-stabalise the club and results suffered.

However - if you look at the season overall I think we can count on one hand the number of good games we have played. Yes we got into the top six before Xmas but performances were not that good.

Watching the Forest game it certainly looks like his selection and formation was wrong. After winning two on the bounce he drops Smith for Hunt and we suffer. The back 5 goes into a back 4 due to injury but surely we have another defender who can play in a back five?

If he goes I won't be over bothered. If he stays I won't be too worried but he needs to be told he has to get more out of his team. If we are not in the top six by October then I would get rid whilst we have a chance to turn things around with a new coach.

Performances have been dreadful for a lengthy spell now, probably since Howson was injured/sold. The acquisitions made are/were nowhere near enough to help change this issue.

He must go................and he will

We have a new owner

We need a clean break from the past.

The manager and most of his players must go