comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
Nat Phillips is the one. He was under our medical team, and was literally cured under another.
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I'll never forget the look on Henderson's face when Ox told him the Phillips vegan story...what made it funnier was Henderson himself missed about 10-15 games that season
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
Nat Phillips is the one. He was under our medical team, and was literally cured under another.
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I'll never forget the look on Henderson's face when Ox told him the Phillips vegan story...what made it funnier was Henderson himself missed about 10-15 games that season
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Yeah I remember that
It was the Quorn advert behind the scenes thing I think.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don’t know, I’m not arrogant or stupid enough to guess and then say it as fact.
But some medical teams are better than others, that is for certain, and to say (twice) they don’t make much different is a mind boggling amount of horse sh!t.
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It would be great if you understood words, would make this a lot quicker. I'm saying most of the PL clubs have top medical teams and switching them would make little difference to injuries as most injuries occur outside of what the medical teams do.
I don't know if you know him but I spoke to Chris Morgan several years ago when he was on the phone with a friend and work colleague telling my friend he was leaving Liverpool and my first words to him were a joke, something like 'now we're now going to get injuries all over the show'. He laughed and said something like there's actually only so much we can do with injuries, we can only give advice, it's up to the manager what they do.
I took this to mean that some managers play players against the advise of the medical team. Although I suppose it could have meant the way play also, the intensity in games and training.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
Absolutely zero shame. You have a nice day.
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posted 58 minutes ago
Where's Barry when you need him?
I hate us.
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
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Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
Absolutely zero shame. You have a nice day.
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You don't.
So just to clarify your position is if we switched with Arsenal's medical team we'd have fewer injuries.
My position is it would make little difference, injuries mostly come outside of what the medical team do, the player, the style of play, intensity in games and training etc.
I'm the fool though.
That's how bloody arrogant you are. Sometimes you can admit when you're wrong. It won't kill you. You might even begin to realise how many times you actually are wrong and not think you're the judge of all topics.
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
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Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
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Did we? What did they change? I thought the medical team remained in place.
They’re all the same anyway
You walked into that one TOOR
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
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Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
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Did we? What did they change? I thought the medical team remained in place.
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Ah just read there has been an overhaul.
kornmayo went to leipzig with pep, whos doing poorly so far
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posted about a minute ago
You walked into that one TOOR
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I didn't walk into anything. The arrogant fool has now resorted to laughing at something I didn't say.
I’m afraid you’ll need to grab Winston for your latest meltdown TOOR. Have a nice weekend.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 48 seconds ago
I’m afraid you’ll need to grab Winston for your latest meltdown TOOR. Have a nice weekend.
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My meltdown
Nice attempt at twisting it there.
But the club’s physiotherapist Chris Morgan thinks fans are wrong to blame the medical department.
“Don’t be nasty. Don’t tweet nonsense. Don’t confuse correlation with causation.”
Looking at the bigger picture
He mentioned that a lot of people make up the medical department, and just 2 of them ‘happen to run on the pitch’. Morgan then added why he thinks the club has so many injuries at the moment.
“It’s complex and multi-factorial. The ones we can’t prevent (and we’ve had lots) then impact the ability to try to prevent others. We still have to put 11 players on the pitch every 3-4 days after all.
Wait what? Lots of injuries that couldn't be prevented. In Hoody's world if we'd had Arsenal's medical team they could have been prevented. Excellent.
Damn, have to correct myself. It wasn't Chris Morgan I spoke to. It was Andrew Massey. Just texted my friend and he corrected me.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
See
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I'll have to take this one.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 44 minutes ago
Nat Phillips has spoken about this at length.
He suffered numerous injuries and then went on loan to Stuttgart. Their medical team assessed him and completely changed his diet and his injuries totally cleared up.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-injury-recovery-oxlade-19625100.amp
There are numerous stories like this.
Matt Etherington kept getting hamstring injuries. Went to a specialist because West Ham’s medical team couldn’t work it out. Turned out he had a mid-aligned jaw.
Rio was suffering with his hamstrings, no-one could work it out, turned out it was because of his car seat being so low.
Data analytics using GPS is proven to help injury avoidance.
Medical teams play a HUGE part in injury prevention and avoidance and recovery.
That’s actually what they do.
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I think the point TOOR is making, if I'm understanding correctly, is not that examples like this don't happen - of course they do, it's documented. It's that if we assume the medical teams at all elite clubs are at the top of their profession then the probably of each team misdiagnosing or missing opportunities would be broadly equal.
So to take the Nat example, Stuttgart got it right and improved him. But how many of the Stuttgart squad could the Liverpool medical team improve. Or indeed how many of our squad would be worse off if they were dealt with by Stuttgart?
All hypothetical of course and we'll never know the answer but ultimately I struggle to believe there is significant differences in care quality given the availability of information and data these days. One club could have a House like diagnosis genius (if anyone here watched the show) but is it likely?
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 44 minutes ago
Nat Phillips has spoken about this at length.
He suffered numerous injuries and then went on loan to Stuttgart. Their medical team assessed him and completely changed his diet and his injuries totally cleared up.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-injury-recovery-oxlade-19625100.amp
There are numerous stories like this.
Matt Etherington kept getting hamstring injuries. Went to a specialist because West Ham’s medical team couldn’t work it out. Turned out he had a mid-aligned jaw.
Rio was suffering with his hamstrings, no-one could work it out, turned out it was because of his car seat being so low.
Data analytics using GPS is proven to help injury avoidance.
Medical teams play a HUGE part in injury prevention and avoidance and recovery.
That’s actually what they do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the point TOOR is making, if I'm understanding correctly, is not that examples like this don't happen - of course they do, it's documented. It's that if we assume the medical teams at all elite clubs are at the top of their profession then the probably of each team misdiagnosing or missing opportunities would be broadly equal.
So to take the Nat example, Stuttgart got it right and improved him. But how many of the Stuttgart squad could the Liverpool medical team improve. Or indeed how many of our squad would be worse off if they were dealt with by Stuttgart?
All hypothetical of course and we'll never know the answer but ultimately I struggle to believe there is significant differences in care quality given the availability of information and data these days. One club could have a House like diagnosis genius (if anyone here watched the show) but is it likely?
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Well yes. Also that most injuries happen outside of what the medical team are doing. You can have two top medical teams, one set at a club where they play high intensity games and training and/or have players that can't cope with that and one set at a club where they play lower intensity. Just because there are more injuries at one club doesn't mean the other medical team are better. Most of it is outside their control.
Of course if you had a weak medical team you'd have more chance of picking up injuries but when it comes to PL clubs there isn't much of difference between most. They've all got medical degrees etc.
I suppose I'd you were to compare it to two top managers, one managing an average side and one a top side, just because the manager managing the top side wins more trophies doesn't mean if you switched them he'd win those trophies at the average side. There is only so much in your control.
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posted on 4/10/24
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
Nat Phillips is the one. He was under our medical team, and was literally cured under another.
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I'll never forget the look on Henderson's face when Ox told him the Phillips vegan story...what made it funnier was Henderson himself missed about 10-15 games that season
posted on 4/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
Nat Phillips is the one. He was under our medical team, and was literally cured under another.
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I'll never forget the look on Henderson's face when Ox told him the Phillips vegan story...what made it funnier was Henderson himself missed about 10-15 games that season
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Yeah I remember that
It was the Quorn advert behind the scenes thing I think.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don’t know, I’m not arrogant or stupid enough to guess and then say it as fact.
But some medical teams are better than others, that is for certain, and to say (twice) they don’t make much different is a mind boggling amount of horse sh!t.
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It would be great if you understood words, would make this a lot quicker. I'm saying most of the PL clubs have top medical teams and switching them would make little difference to injuries as most injuries occur outside of what the medical teams do.
I don't know if you know him but I spoke to Chris Morgan several years ago when he was on the phone with a friend and work colleague telling my friend he was leaving Liverpool and my first words to him were a joke, something like 'now we're now going to get injuries all over the show'. He laughed and said something like there's actually only so much we can do with injuries, we can only give advice, it's up to the manager what they do.
I took this to mean that some managers play players against the advise of the medical team. Although I suppose it could have meant the way play also, the intensity in games and training.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
posted on 4/10/24
Absolutely zero shame. You have a nice day.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 58 minutes ago
Where's Barry when you need him?
I hate us.
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
Absolutely zero shame. You have a nice day.
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You don't.
So just to clarify your position is if we switched with Arsenal's medical team we'd have fewer injuries.
My position is it would make little difference, injuries mostly come outside of what the medical team do, the player, the style of play, intensity in games and training etc.
I'm the fool though.
That's how bloody arrogant you are. Sometimes you can admit when you're wrong. It won't kill you. You might even begin to realise how many times you actually are wrong and not think you're the judge of all topics.
posted on 4/10/24
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
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Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
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Did we? What did they change? I thought the medical team remained in place.
posted on 4/10/24
They’re all the same anyway
posted on 4/10/24
You walked into that one TOOR
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
"if we switched medical teams with Arsenal we'd have less injuries?"
Under Klopp & his coaching staff, probably not...but under a management team that actually listens to them, we would definitely have seen an improvement.
I mean there was that article the season before last where there were reports of Kornmayer ignoring the advice of out medical department
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Great so after this all you agree with what I said. Would have been easier if you stated this from the outset.
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Not really...you're saying it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. I'm saying if Klopp & his team changed their ideology about player conditioning, it would definitely have helped us.
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No, I agree with that. I'm saying if we had Arsenal's medical team it would have made much of a difference.
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Tbh the best way to have really known is if we continued with the same medical team just with Slot has the difference but we've made massive changes in that department as well.
You could also look at those changes as the club probably realising that they were underperforming
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Did we? What did they change? I thought the medical team remained in place.
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Ah just read there has been an overhaul.
posted on 4/10/24
kornmayo went to leipzig with pep, whos doing poorly so far
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud o... (U2720)
posted about a minute ago
You walked into that one TOOR
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I didn't walk into anything. The arrogant fool has now resorted to laughing at something I didn't say.
posted on 4/10/24
I’m afraid you’ll need to grab Winston for your latest meltdown TOOR. Have a nice weekend.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 48 seconds ago
I’m afraid you’ll need to grab Winston for your latest meltdown TOOR. Have a nice weekend.
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My meltdown
Nice attempt at twisting it there.
posted on 4/10/24
But the club’s physiotherapist Chris Morgan thinks fans are wrong to blame the medical department.
“Don’t be nasty. Don’t tweet nonsense. Don’t confuse correlation with causation.”
Looking at the bigger picture
He mentioned that a lot of people make up the medical department, and just 2 of them ‘happen to run on the pitch’. Morgan then added why he thinks the club has so many injuries at the moment.
“It’s complex and multi-factorial. The ones we can’t prevent (and we’ve had lots) then impact the ability to try to prevent others. We still have to put 11 players on the pitch every 3-4 days after all.
Wait what? Lots of injuries that couldn't be prevented. In Hoody's world if we'd had Arsenal's medical team they could have been prevented. Excellent.
posted on 4/10/24
Damn, have to correct myself. It wasn't Chris Morgan I spoke to. It was Andrew Massey. Just texted my friend and he corrected me.
posted on 4/10/24
See
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
See
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I'll have to take this one.
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 44 minutes ago
Nat Phillips has spoken about this at length.
He suffered numerous injuries and then went on loan to Stuttgart. Their medical team assessed him and completely changed his diet and his injuries totally cleared up.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-injury-recovery-oxlade-19625100.amp
There are numerous stories like this.
Matt Etherington kept getting hamstring injuries. Went to a specialist because West Ham’s medical team couldn’t work it out. Turned out he had a mid-aligned jaw.
Rio was suffering with his hamstrings, no-one could work it out, turned out it was because of his car seat being so low.
Data analytics using GPS is proven to help injury avoidance.
Medical teams play a HUGE part in injury prevention and avoidance and recovery.
That’s actually what they do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the point TOOR is making, if I'm understanding correctly, is not that examples like this don't happen - of course they do, it's documented. It's that if we assume the medical teams at all elite clubs are at the top of their profession then the probably of each team misdiagnosing or missing opportunities would be broadly equal.
So to take the Nat example, Stuttgart got it right and improved him. But how many of the Stuttgart squad could the Liverpool medical team improve. Or indeed how many of our squad would be worse off if they were dealt with by Stuttgart?
All hypothetical of course and we'll never know the answer but ultimately I struggle to believe there is significant differences in care quality given the availability of information and data these days. One club could have a House like diagnosis genius (if anyone here watched the show) but is it likely?
posted on 4/10/24
comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 44 minutes ago
Nat Phillips has spoken about this at length.
He suffered numerous injuries and then went on loan to Stuttgart. Their medical team assessed him and completely changed his diet and his injuries totally cleared up.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-injury-recovery-oxlade-19625100.amp
There are numerous stories like this.
Matt Etherington kept getting hamstring injuries. Went to a specialist because West Ham’s medical team couldn’t work it out. Turned out he had a mid-aligned jaw.
Rio was suffering with his hamstrings, no-one could work it out, turned out it was because of his car seat being so low.
Data analytics using GPS is proven to help injury avoidance.
Medical teams play a HUGE part in injury prevention and avoidance and recovery.
That’s actually what they do.
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I think the point TOOR is making, if I'm understanding correctly, is not that examples like this don't happen - of course they do, it's documented. It's that if we assume the medical teams at all elite clubs are at the top of their profession then the probably of each team misdiagnosing or missing opportunities would be broadly equal.
So to take the Nat example, Stuttgart got it right and improved him. But how many of the Stuttgart squad could the Liverpool medical team improve. Or indeed how many of our squad would be worse off if they were dealt with by Stuttgart?
All hypothetical of course and we'll never know the answer but ultimately I struggle to believe there is significant differences in care quality given the availability of information and data these days. One club could have a House like diagnosis genius (if anyone here watched the show) but is it likely?
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Well yes. Also that most injuries happen outside of what the medical team are doing. You can have two top medical teams, one set at a club where they play high intensity games and training and/or have players that can't cope with that and one set at a club where they play lower intensity. Just because there are more injuries at one club doesn't mean the other medical team are better. Most of it is outside their control.
Of course if you had a weak medical team you'd have more chance of picking up injuries but when it comes to PL clubs there isn't much of difference between most. They've all got medical degrees etc.
I suppose I'd you were to compare it to two top managers, one managing an average side and one a top side, just because the manager managing the top side wins more trophies doesn't mean if you switched them he'd win those trophies at the average side. There is only so much in your control.
posted on 4/10/24
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