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I check Newsnow a couple of times a day and see everything written about City in the papers and it's rarely anything positive. The Daily Star (OK, not exactly targetting anyone who's completed more than 3 years formal education) titled their report: Liverpool Have The Last Laugh.

It's a minor irritation that I share with many of mates and several other City fans that I hear on 606 phone-ins.

Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)

Fair enough, but did you realise that there are fans of each other club who, just like you, believe their club is portrayed negatively in comparison to others.

Now, you'll believe what you're saying is right.

But so will they.

The more likely reality - and I don't mean this as a dig - is that you notice the rubbish about City, because it annoys you, and it sticks in the mind more than anything else.

The media has changed a bit recently in our favour due to FFP (which was quite surprising to be honest).

The pr department is no where near as good or has the contacts of Uniteds or Liverpools though, not yet.

FFP dropped off the media radar after 17.50 last Sunday.

I don't understand Winston's comments. He seems to be saying that fans of other clubs could say the same. He seems to be saying that other clubs have been reported negatively in the media.

That is probably true. But that is nevertheless irrevelent. It doesn't matter how many clubs have been portrayed negatively in the media. That won't stop fans talking about their own club, and how their own club is portrayed.

I actually think the rationale that all clubs have the same is flawed anyway Ripley as it doesn't take into account the relationships between journalists and clubs. Some have much closer ties than others.

That's true melton, but it is nevertheless rather arbitrary. I had the displeasure of meeting a few journalists a year or so ago (it was a displeasure - one of them had the most shocking wind - stinky, rotten, silent, you name it, and because it was silent, tried to blame me - a guest at the time. So short-sighted - simply for the fact that he had been parping all morning, before I arrived, during the time I was there, and long after I'd gone.

There's a point to this - trust me!!!

The point is that they can't see past themselves. They will write a story, and the reaction to their story doesn't matter to them. Not one bit. They know it. Their peers know it. Their editor knows it. All they care about is getting the story out (and the story will often come from a credible source - it's just that their source has got it wrong (never the journalists fault - they're just "reporting" it).

Trust me melton - all clubs do have the same. The bigger the club though, the more potential for a headline story it is. That is, ultimately, the one and only difference.

I agree, I have a friend who is a sports journalist (well, acquaintance...). My point more was not to underestimate the lengths some journalists go to to establish and maintain relationships with particular agents and clubs.

You could see post Mancini exactly which journalists the club were leaking snippets to, ditto Woodward for United.

It was amazing the number of negative articles on United that you just wouldn't have got when Fergie was here. He had them terrified, completely manipulated them to his own and United's purpose.

Agreed post, he was brilliant at it. They all wanted to still placate him to get the story.

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RipleysCat (U1862)

You appear to miss my point, so let me explain.

I'm not referring to a complaint about being portrayed negatively - everyone is entitled to comment on an article/report.

I'm referring to the insinuation that the media, in general, are somehow out to portray City negatively in relative terms to other clubs, or prefer other clubs to City.

The point is that some fans of other clubs are saying exactly the same thing.

Who's right?

None of them, in my opinion.

comment by The Post Nearly Man. I just left Hotel Amnesia. Where it is I can't remember. (U1270)
posted 12 hours, 35 minutes ago
It was amazing the number of negative articles on United that you just wouldn't have got when Fergie was here. He had them terrified, completely manipulated them to his own and United's purpose.
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This nonsense - but it'll become more believable as the years roll on.

In SAF's time, there were plenty of negative articles. Who can forget the times where the media were convinced that his management had run it's course, and it was time to set aside?

The idea that the press were only ever positive about United because they were scared of Ferguson is simply untrue.

Here's a suggestion why you've seen more negative articles about United this season...

... we were crap.

I don't remember too much negativity about Moyes either. It seemed to be a case of "Let's give the plucky fella a chance" or "Nothing's going right for him"

Compare that to the dogs abuse Mancini got in his last season despite finishing runners up.

I don't think anyone is saying the press only ever act in one way or the other, more that different clubs and people have varying influence over them.

You just need to talk to any journalist to know that.

comment by The Post Nearly Man. I just left Hotel Amnesia. Where it is I can't remember. (U1270)

posted 18 hours, 6 minutes ago

It was amazing the number of negative articles on United that you just wouldn't have got when Fergie was here. He had them terrified, completely manipulated them to his own and United's purpose

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Arrant nonsense!

As i have oft-repeated before: every team perceives some sort of bias against their club. You can't all be right; ergo, you are all wrong.

Are there mitigating circumstances? Sure, but to assert such guff is baseless.

Where there a few hacks that had sympathy for Moyes? Yes. The likes of Martin Samuel and Patrick Barclay were noted in their earlier support and why wouldn't they?

But towards the end of Moyes tenure, there was avalanche after avalanche of criticism from all sections of the media.

There was indeed TRC, it was similar with Mancini. Now where do you think a lot of those stories came from...?

comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 42 minutes ago
I don't remember too much negativity about Moyes either. It seemed to be a case of "Let's give the plucky fella a chance" or "Nothing's going right for him"<br abp="433"><br abp="434">Compare that to the dogs abuse Mancini got in his last season despite finishing runners up.
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Yet many United fans were going on about how Moyes was subjected to more criticism in the media than any other manager.

I'm not saying either are right, only that you have a one-eyed view of it.

That's not meant as a dig, we all have a certain amount of bias.

Sadly Mr. Melton, to quote Sherlock (or summon Occam's Razor, whichever one's preference), one can only surmise it comes from individual clubs.

For e.g, i feel Man.City's negaive campaign against Mancini was evident - in fact, still is!

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 41 minutes ago
I don't think anyone is saying the press only ever act in one way or the other, more that different clubs and people have varying influence over them.<br abp="296"><br abp="297">You just need to talk to any journalist to know that.
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I think you should read his articles more closely!

Anyone who doesn't think Fergie had the press where he wanted them should talk to a Manchester journalist. It isn't a criticism ffs.