I'm not sure there's been a single race where both have had trouble-free races/qualifying, so it's a bit difficult to compare the two. Too early in the season to back one driver. If Ricciardo gets a bit of Vettel's luck, then Vettel could be back on top.
I also think that with the way they're using up engines, they'll be qualifying 5 places lower for a large part of the latter end of the season, so have little chance of challenging the Mercedes.
I'm not sure how you can say Vettel's mojo has gone after the Spanish GP, and to bring up diffusers is a little disingenuous. He was still the best driver for the past 4 years, but has been hamstrung this year.
Although it is quite funny the way some people have changed their tune. Originally Red Bull signed the "rubbish" Ricciardo so that he wouldn't show up Vettel. Now that he's doing well, it also proves that Vettel isn't very good. How convenient.
People will no doubt turn on Ricciardo too if he ends up dominating the sport.
I just put up this to debate my good man. I do not believe Vettel is rubbish, I do believe he was and is overhyped.
So far the rookie who has had less testing time is beating him consistently, qualifying ahead of him, managing tyres better and taking the fight to the mercs.
I personally have no problems with Seb, I just do not think he is the all conquering supremo some try to make out he is. Ricciardo is the business and is a breath of fresh air and wish him well
Couldn't it be both? Ricciardo is also a product of the Red Bull young driver programme, same as Vettel. Vettel could be brilliant, but Ricciardo could be even more brilliant.
Of course it is, winning 4 straight championships is no mean feat.
However, we should see similar form even when the car is not the best.
Red Bull didn't really dominate as much as Mercedes are at the moment. The two Mercs are almost always nailed on 1-2 every race. Where as with the Red Bulls, ok Vettel's car was good but his advantage wasn't nearly as big as Mercedes have this year.
man devil
good evening manx
from what i can gather vettel developed his own unique style that nobody else had during the EBD era hence why he was so effective with the various chassis"s and the tyres
also from what i can gather he has had a slightly defective chassis for the first 4 races hence when red bull gave him his original winter testing chassis at spain that he seemingly felt at one with and hence put in arguably the drive of the season so far
think you will find vettel was down on power thruout monaco qual - we all know what happened in the race -
maybe i am wrong but i dont think anything in formula 1 is as strait forward and simple as a 4 x WDC suddenly having a talent bypass because of a rule change
comment by Teenage Mutant Shininja-Kagawa (U4302)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
Red Bull didn't really dominate as much as Mercedes are at the moment. The two Mercs are almost always nailed on 1-2 every race. Where as with the Red Bulls, ok Vettel's car was good but his advantage wasn't nearly as big as Mercedes have this year.
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It was because Webber was crap and Seb was not maximising the true potential of the car. When he did like at Singapore last year, he showed what the car was truly capable of
It's far too early to be having designated #1 and #2 drivers, particularly when it won't really matter regarding the championship. Things change around so quickly in the world of Formula 1.
I must add, I've been extremely impressed by Ricciardo. The man has got his head down and done his job superbly thus far.
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posted on 27/5/14
I'm not sure there's been a single race where both have had trouble-free races/qualifying, so it's a bit difficult to compare the two. Too early in the season to back one driver. If Ricciardo gets a bit of Vettel's luck, then Vettel could be back on top.
I also think that with the way they're using up engines, they'll be qualifying 5 places lower for a large part of the latter end of the season, so have little chance of challenging the Mercedes.
I'm not sure how you can say Vettel's mojo has gone after the Spanish GP, and to bring up diffusers is a little disingenuous. He was still the best driver for the past 4 years, but has been hamstrung this year.
Although it is quite funny the way some people have changed their tune. Originally Red Bull signed the "rubbish" Ricciardo so that he wouldn't show up Vettel. Now that he's doing well, it also proves that Vettel isn't very good. How convenient.
People will no doubt turn on Ricciardo too if he ends up dominating the sport.
posted on 27/5/14
I just put up this to debate my good man. I do not believe Vettel is rubbish, I do believe he was and is overhyped.
So far the rookie who has had less testing time is beating him consistently, qualifying ahead of him, managing tyres better and taking the fight to the mercs.
I personally have no problems with Seb, I just do not think he is the all conquering supremo some try to make out he is. Ricciardo is the business and is a breath of fresh air and wish him well
posted on 27/5/14
Couldn't it be both? Ricciardo is also a product of the Red Bull young driver programme, same as Vettel. Vettel could be brilliant, but Ricciardo could be even more brilliant.
posted on 27/5/14
Of course it is, winning 4 straight championships is no mean feat.
However, we should see similar form even when the car is not the best.
posted on 27/5/14
Red Bull didn't really dominate as much as Mercedes are at the moment. The two Mercs are almost always nailed on 1-2 every race. Where as with the Red Bulls, ok Vettel's car was good but his advantage wasn't nearly as big as Mercedes have this year.
posted on 27/5/14
man devil
good evening manx
from what i can gather vettel developed his own unique style that nobody else had during the EBD era hence why he was so effective with the various chassis"s and the tyres
also from what i can gather he has had a slightly defective chassis for the first 4 races hence when red bull gave him his original winter testing chassis at spain that he seemingly felt at one with and hence put in arguably the drive of the season so far
think you will find vettel was down on power thruout monaco qual - we all know what happened in the race -
maybe i am wrong but i dont think anything in formula 1 is as strait forward and simple as a 4 x WDC suddenly having a talent bypass because of a rule change
posted on 27/5/14
comment by Teenage Mutant Shininja-Kagawa (U4302)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
Red Bull didn't really dominate as much as Mercedes are at the moment. The two Mercs are almost always nailed on 1-2 every race. Where as with the Red Bulls, ok Vettel's car was good but his advantage wasn't nearly as big as Mercedes have this year.
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It was because Webber was crap and Seb was not maximising the true potential of the car. When he did like at Singapore last year, he showed what the car was truly capable of
posted on 29/5/14
It's far too early to be having designated #1 and #2 drivers, particularly when it won't really matter regarding the championship. Things change around so quickly in the world of Formula 1.
I must add, I've been extremely impressed by Ricciardo. The man has got his head down and done his job superbly thus far.
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