ryan

poorly thought out topic that comes across as fanboy sour grapes -

the ring dimensions gave both fighters equal opportunity and as for the soft ring floor rubbish , even if there had been a rock hard ring floor used if it had been an issue for froch he would have used a super soft rubberised insert in his boots like sorbothane to negate the hardness of the floor -
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ryan,

I think you are pretty much on the money but a few other facts which I thought you might have noticed.

- Before the fight Groves asked for jellied eels but the Froch camp substituted this with black pudding which Groves can't stand. So he felt a little queasy from the off
- Froch had horseshoes in each glove to make his punches stronger. Surely illegal?
- Every now and then a good looking blond shouted "cooeee referee". When the ref was distracted, Froch's cornermen jumped in and grabbed Groves' arms while Froch gave him a bit of a pummelling

And on and on and on. Froch had the better game plan. Get over it

Must of been watching a different fight, if you thought groves was ahead

He simply wasn't

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To be if anything a smaller ring would favour Groves due to his speed.

https://twitter.com/StGeorgeGroves/status/472884814245548032 legend

I think the OP has been sucking on a lemon!

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And on and on and on. Froch had the better game plan. Get over it
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I wouldn't say he had the better gameplan at all - he just had a better gameplan than last time. Froch held ring centre & flicked his jab out a lot, didn't control the fight with his jab just gave Groves something to think about. Groves jab was landing more consistently, and in the exchanges Groves definitely landed the cleaner shots - Froch threw a lot but landed little; it was clear to see and the stats back this up. Lots of people get swayed by commentary & Jim Watt was clearly favouring Froch. Carl had a very good 6th, but then he lost sight of his gameplan in the 7th allowing Groves to hit & move a lot including a very hard left hand. Groves was pacing himself I felt and taking over the fight in the 7th & 8th. But then he got careless, left was low, back against the ropes - basically gave Froch a free shot which is suicide. But it was a vey even, cagey fight, Froch's tactics were clear and working to an extent but Groves speed was allowing him to do the cleaner work up til the KO.
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graet post. sums up the fight very well.

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I was watching in a bar last night, and it was rocking so couldn't make out any of the analysis or commentary.

Watching the Mitchell fight I commented on how small the ring was, and yes it would have favoured Groves.

I had to laugh when Jim Watt scorecard came up on screen because Groves was clearly winning the fight on my card.

To find out the official judges had Froch ahead is troubling

Official cards had froch up

About 30% of people I've come across had gg up
About 50% had froch up
And the rest 20% had it even

Nothing troubling about the scores but I guess people who predicted it badly wrong have to clutch at something

80% of statistics are made up on the spot, as yours are clearly are.

Do you know what clean hard punching means?

No 2 people will see the same fight ,even more so when there is noise, excitement and personal preference .I think that George will have learned a lot from that fight and he has it all in front of him.Carl ,can go no higher in my opinion,and he surely doesn't need the money now ,I think he will retire and enjoy his family more now .

The statistics are nt official, I cleary said the people I'm come across since last night on various boards

Yeah clean hard punches was also what mayweather was tagging maidana with the other week but funnily enough a few people on here preferred to give rds to the busier fighter who was connecting at half the rate , funny that

You clearly made them up, and they prove nothing.

Most people that were not listening to Jim Watt had Groves in front.

Maidana was landed more punches earlier on and they were harder, and was the much busier fighter, unlike Froch.

Listen dnt try to tell me things I know personally which you have no knowledge of, again where did I say it was definitive proof of anything, the only clear proof in my statement was the judges had froch up but it didn't jack in the end

Jim watt is prat I never listen to his scorecards even if he has a fighter I root for ahead, he makes his mind up after the 1st rd and basis his commentary for the rest of the fight on that

Like I said your statistics don't mean $ hit you may believe them so you can back up your argument, but it ain't true.

Yh and your opinions are just as invalid as mine then, again I think you have a reading difficulty today, I said I'm come across different people who have their own opinions on the fight last night and more people that I know and have see. had froch winning, doesn't mean it was right or wrong

Do you understand that now

Yes, and my opinion is still the same.

60% of the people I know voted Labour in the last elections, that must mean the election was rigged

Maybe politics are more corrupt than boxing didn't you know

Clean hard punches are not the only things that score points in fights, and in this fight Froch scored with lots of clean hard body shots in the early rounds. As well as clean hard jabs.

Not that it matters, because Froch had that special something that makes champions. We knew(well, most of us) that Froch wasn't likely to get starched the way Groves was, because he has been in massive fights again and again and has come through them. Anyone thinking Groves was going to come in and do what many world class fighters had failed to do, was a fool.

It does't matter who was up on the score cards at all, as Froch finished it decisively.

I had froch up by 1 at time of the knock out. As pointed out by a few it was very close overall, but imo Froch was doing more damage. In the whole fight Groves caught him once, froch on the other hand had done it 2/3 times plus the ko

Can you point out to me the 2/3 ocasions when Froch caught Groves, and the one time Groves caught Froch.

Rounds and times if you don't mind.