He's easily one of our better defenders when played centrally.
Never had any real problems with him.
don't think he was good today
I think a lot of our fans over rate him personally.
I don't think he's poor by any stretch don't get me wrong, but he'll never be a top cb for us like Pallister, Bruce, Stam, Rio, Vidic etc.
Just my opinion
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 minute ago
I think a lot of our fans over rate him personally.
I don't think he's poor by any stretch don't get me wrong, but he'll never be a top cb for us like Pallister, Bruce, Stam, Rio, Vidic etc.
Just my opinion
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To be honest though,there are very,very few defenders out there who can match up with the names you've mentioned.
England defence was shambles tonight. Smalling was awful.
Don't see a top player in there at all. Done nothing in his career to warrant a place at a World Cup.
I don't dislike Smalling, but I think he gets over-rated at Manchester United and a lot is to do with the love-in for a Smalling and Jones partnership, which will never be realised at Manchester United in my opinion.
Smalling is our best CB, he may not be as good as Rio or Vidic but he is good enough to get a place in the first team imo
LVG will sign 1 for sure, maybe two new cb's this summer.
That will show the world the faith he has in Smalling, Jones and Evans. Not a great deal. Certainly not for regular first team football anyway.
Smalling is certainly good enough to stay at United,maybe not as a full first teamer but he'd be a great back-up.
Personally I have more worries when Evans is picked.
Welbeck was interviewed. And he said the defender. In the team he hated playing against was Smalling.
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
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I think handful is extremely kind considering his goals to games ratio.
His speed can be a handful for defenders granted, but his decision making, timing, composure not so much.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 17 minutes ago
Welbeck was interviewed. And he said the defender. In the team he hated playing against was Smalling.
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
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Funny that, I'd imagine if you asked Smalling which forward he likes playing against the most I suspect he would say Welbeck.
Smalling is a decent CB, no more at the moment. Played regularly with a better CB alongside he could improve and be a very consistent performer. Look at Jagielka (as Moyes said to Rio). He has continually improved.
Smalling gets slated but i thought Cahill and Jagielka looked very dodgy against Peru...Wont get away with that against the top sides
Cahill is reliable. Turned out to be a very good CB to be fair.
Jagielka not so sure on. Still seems too slow and awkward under pressure to me. I think Suarez, Cavani, Balotelli etc could show him up badly.
comment by Best Fans - MOT (U2196)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
England defence was shambles tonight. Smalling was awful.
Don't see a top player in there at all. Done nothing in his career to warrant a place at a World Cup.
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You could say that about half the England squad though tbf.
He's pretty solid when he plays for United, so much so that the general consensus on ja is that we need to buy a centre back to partner him, not replace him.
I am surprised at how little faith people have in Evans, who IMO is currently the best CB at United. Whenever Vidic or Rio were out, Evans would be in CB rather than Smalling or Jones. And if Vidic and Rio were out, Evans would be partnering one of Smalling or Jones.
Personally, Smalling compliments either Evans and Jones, but Jones and Evans don't seem to comliment each other, even though SAF thought that would be the future CB pairing for United.
I also think that the fact Smalling and Jones have played out of position more than their natural position has hindered them and we will see that until they get a run in their natural positions.
I doubt LVG will bring in 2 CBs to be his first choice pairing. I think if he does, it will be an experienced CB who will partner Evans with Smalling and Jones as back up (as all three will pick up injuries along with Rafael).
Evans is the most composed out of the 3 cb's. However that's probably to be expected given his age and experience over the other two.
Personally, I don't think we own a single top class CB anymore, where fairly recently we had 2.
We won't go anywhere next season without a new commanding top notch CB coming in.
We don't have any World class CBs and the ones who just left, were no longer in the world class category (due to age and injury). Evans may not be world class, but he is very good. People seem to dismiss him entirely and go for Smalling and Jones, who IMO are not ready and we will not look good at the back with both of them against top sides. Evans has played along side Vidic and Rio, has had is rough patch, his learning curve and played against the best, has experienced it all. We should be lining up with:
Rafael --- Smalling --- Evans --- New LB
As our back 4. Exchange Smalling for new CB if we sign one.
Evans and Smalling will work. I have very little faith in Jones
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posted on 4/6/14
He's easily one of our better defenders when played centrally.
Never had any real problems with him.
posted on 4/6/14
posted on 4/6/14
don't think he was good today
posted on 4/6/14
I think a lot of our fans over rate him personally.
I don't think he's poor by any stretch don't get me wrong, but he'll never be a top cb for us like Pallister, Bruce, Stam, Rio, Vidic etc.
Just my opinion
posted on 4/6/14
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 minute ago
I think a lot of our fans over rate him personally.
I don't think he's poor by any stretch don't get me wrong, but he'll never be a top cb for us like Pallister, Bruce, Stam, Rio, Vidic etc.
Just my opinion
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To be honest though,there are very,very few defenders out there who can match up with the names you've mentioned.
posted on 4/6/14
England defence was shambles tonight. Smalling was awful.
Don't see a top player in there at all. Done nothing in his career to warrant a place at a World Cup.
posted on 4/6/14
I don't dislike Smalling, but I think he gets over-rated at Manchester United and a lot is to do with the love-in for a Smalling and Jones partnership, which will never be realised at Manchester United in my opinion.
posted on 4/6/14
Smalling is our best CB, he may not be as good as Rio or Vidic but he is good enough to get a place in the first team imo
posted on 4/6/14
LVG will sign 1 for sure, maybe two new cb's this summer.
That will show the world the faith he has in Smalling, Jones and Evans. Not a great deal. Certainly not for regular first team football anyway.
posted on 4/6/14
Smalling is certainly good enough to stay at United,maybe not as a full first teamer but he'd be a great back-up.
Personally I have more worries when Evans is picked.
posted on 4/6/14
Welbeck was interviewed. And he said the defender. In the team he hated playing against was Smalling.
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
posted on 4/6/14
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
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I think handful is extremely kind considering his goals to games ratio.
His speed can be a handful for defenders granted, but his decision making, timing, composure not so much.
posted on 4/6/14
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 17 minutes ago
Welbeck was interviewed. And he said the defender. In the team he hated playing against was Smalling.
Considering how much of a handful Welbeck is, that is a massive compliment
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Funny that, I'd imagine if you asked Smalling which forward he likes playing against the most I suspect he would say Welbeck.
posted on 4/6/14
Smalling is a decent CB, no more at the moment. Played regularly with a better CB alongside he could improve and be a very consistent performer. Look at Jagielka (as Moyes said to Rio). He has continually improved.
posted on 4/6/14
Smalling gets slated but i thought Cahill and Jagielka looked very dodgy against Peru...Wont get away with that against the top sides
posted on 4/6/14
Cahill is reliable. Turned out to be a very good CB to be fair.
Jagielka not so sure on. Still seems too slow and awkward under pressure to me. I think Suarez, Cavani, Balotelli etc could show him up badly.
posted on 4/6/14
Benched
posted on 4/6/14
comment by Best Fans - MOT (U2196)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
England defence was shambles tonight. Smalling was awful.
Don't see a top player in there at all. Done nothing in his career to warrant a place at a World Cup.
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You could say that about half the England squad though tbf.
He's pretty solid when he plays for United, so much so that the general consensus on ja is that we need to buy a centre back to partner him, not replace him.
posted on 5/6/14
I am surprised at how little faith people have in Evans, who IMO is currently the best CB at United. Whenever Vidic or Rio were out, Evans would be in CB rather than Smalling or Jones. And if Vidic and Rio were out, Evans would be partnering one of Smalling or Jones.
Personally, Smalling compliments either Evans and Jones, but Jones and Evans don't seem to comliment each other, even though SAF thought that would be the future CB pairing for United.
I also think that the fact Smalling and Jones have played out of position more than their natural position has hindered them and we will see that until they get a run in their natural positions.
I doubt LVG will bring in 2 CBs to be his first choice pairing. I think if he does, it will be an experienced CB who will partner Evans with Smalling and Jones as back up (as all three will pick up injuries along with Rafael).
posted on 5/6/14
Evans is the most composed out of the 3 cb's. However that's probably to be expected given his age and experience over the other two.
Personally, I don't think we own a single top class CB anymore, where fairly recently we had 2.
We won't go anywhere next season without a new commanding top notch CB coming in.
posted on 6/6/14
We don't have any World class CBs and the ones who just left, were no longer in the world class category (due to age and injury). Evans may not be world class, but he is very good. People seem to dismiss him entirely and go for Smalling and Jones, who IMO are not ready and we will not look good at the back with both of them against top sides. Evans has played along side Vidic and Rio, has had is rough patch, his learning curve and played against the best, has experienced it all. We should be lining up with:
Rafael --- Smalling --- Evans --- New LB
As our back 4. Exchange Smalling for new CB if we sign one.
posted on 6/6/14
Evans and Smalling will work. I have very little faith in Jones
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