Martial, what does patriotism have to do with redbull's wing flexing?

Formula 1 is not the world cup, nationalities are irrelevant. I am half italian, speak the language but do not support Ferrari, so please cut the patriotic BS.

Also this is a public forum and I can enter into any discussion I like as and when I choose.

You are of course entitled to your own opinions but when cold hard facts present themselves that rubbish said opinions, a sensible person will change his views.

Accepting you are wrong is a sign of strength and increased levels of intellect as you have learnt something new.

Petulantly sticking to an opinion in spite of evidence to the contrary is just foolish and indicates a closed mind with narrow views and values.

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 11 minutes ago
blah blah blah, wriggle wriggle wriggle, heard it all before, round in circles.

What do you expect me to say, spell it out for you for the hundred and second time perhaps? I don't think so. Do you really not ever know what you say to people, no wonder you trip yourself up so often. Makes catching you out even easier I suppose.

Can you really not remember calling me a prikk? do you really need me to dig it up for you? Seems your fabled memory is slipping chap.......
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basically i am saying show me what i said that has got you hyperventilating like this -
---- unless you have the bollox to show me then anything you say is just a fairystory much like your not 606 fairy story -
---- you dont even show me where i supposedly called you a prikk although you keep blubbering on about it -
---- as i have said before my bollox are big enough to apologise if i was out of order -

if your spine is so jellyfish in its proportions and your bollox are so non existant that you cant prove what you blubber about how do you reasonably expect me to take you as anymore but a pathetic phoney that has been caught out telling little fairy tales about being a member on not 606

more blah blah blah.

You big up your memory yet can't even remember from a few days ago

I'll give you a clue, its in this thread, go find it
Then make up a reason for not apologising, we already established you can't be a man about things.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 18 minutes ago
Martial, what does patriotism have to do with redbull's wing flexing?

Formula 1 is not the world cup, nationalities are irrelevant. I am half italian, speak the language but do not support Ferrari, so please cut the patriotic BS.

Also this is a public forum and I can enter into any discussion I like as and when I choose.

You are of course entitled to your own opinions but when cold hard facts present themselves that rubbish said opinions, a sensible person will change his views.

Accepting you are wrong is a sign of strength and increased levels of intellect as you have learnt something new.

Petulantly sticking to an opinion in spite of evidence to the contrary is just foolish and indicates a closed mind with narrow views and values.
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again you miss the wider picture manx -- any english F1 forum will always take a less than patriotic view on any big team that does not contain an english driver, hence i am semi asian so i dont suffer from patriotic vegetable syndrome -

off course you are free to enter into any discussion you like on here but i personally have always shown you the respect of not entering into your private handbags when you have them with others on here --
----- mainly because i dont give a rats ar/se who you argue with on here -

as for cold hard facts -- when i see some of substance as opposed to a pathetic you tube clip that looked like something a retar/ted chimp with one eye posted on there i might change might opinion

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 8 minutes ago
more blah blah blah.

You big up your memory yet can't even remember from a few days ago

I'll give you a clue, its in this thread, go find it
Then make up a reason for not apologising, we already established you can't be a man about things.
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you are the one that is blubbering about it not me , you are the one that has been bent out of shape for the last few days , in fact you were the one that started all this bollox in the first place

-- if you accuse people of a thing whatever it may be it is only reasonable to show them what you are accusing them of -
----- unless of course it is all a little fairy story in the first place

Whilst you're acting the child I know full well that you'll just wriggle out of blatant fact of you calling me a prikk for simply getting you to answer a simple question.

Act like a adult, ask nicely and maturely, and I'll do the simple task of finding where you called me a prikk in this thread. Although having such a good memory I'm surprised you can't manage.

n six

dont blow smoke up my ar/se sport -- better people than you have tried and failed miserably -

as i said my bollox are big enough to apologise if i called you a prikk and you did not warrant a silly name in the first place -

normally i only reserve such terminology for the retar/ted geriatric baboon that stalks me on here and the occasional pig ignorant car driver that cuts me up on my pushbike -
( i get a near malevolent glee from abusing car drivers on my ratty old halfords pedlo )

n six

All you have to do (and its not difficult) is pick an option.

1,2,3, or 4.

Pick one otherwise I won't give you a fifth chance, be a man and give up the squirming!
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jesus what a tiresome gutless prikk you are proving to be -

do you want to have a debate / conversation or not -

if you want to talk about something else just do it as i cant hang about all night playing silly games --

if you dont want to talk anymore just tell me as my pit is
waiting ---------- savvy -











Don't worry, I don't expect you to be a man about this Martial

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 29 minutes ago
n six

All you have to do (and its not difficult) is pick an option.

1,2,3, or 4.

Pick one otherwise I won't give you a fifth chance, be a man and give up the squirming!
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jesus what a tiresome gutless prikk you are proving to be -

do you want to have a debate / conversation or not -

if you want to talk about something else just do it as i cant hang about all night playing silly games --

if you dont want to talk anymore just tell me as my pit is
waiting ---------- savvy -











Don't worry, I don't expect you to be a man about this Martial
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fair enough i am a man of my word - i apologise for calling you a prikk -

for the infantile little game that you were playing at the time you deserved some kind of rebuke but i normally reserve that kind of thing for the afore mentioned baboon on here and the occasional bmw driver --

Well I'm shocked you're apologising, I really am! So thankyou for that.

And the infantile game as you put it was the only thing that seemed to work with you, which I think says more about you than it does about me sport

Perhaps you should read back more about whats been said these last few days, may give you a few more pointers about things you've said and things required to get you to debate

n six

very willing to debate with anybody here about any F1 related matter but unfortunately or fortunately whatever way you look at it i will not just agree with people if i dont actually agree with them -

for whatever reason and i saw it alot on bbc 606 if people feel i dont endorse there opinion especially if it concerns an english driver or a rival team to an english driver they get all vanessa about it hence the occasional disagreement i tend to have -
--- where in reality i am merely disagreeing with them
------------ nothing more nothing less

So you disagreed with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed? That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.
You can see why you disagreeing and arguing against that is strange I'm sure

MA, and as for you never saying the wing flexes....

comment by martial artist (U9033)



posted 1 week, 2 days ago


go cell

yeh i remember what was said on the bbc about red bull ,

lets have it correct the fact that red bull were doing all the winning got right up the anatomy of mclaren and mclaren were doing alot of the protesting about the red bull suspension , front wing, rear wing and lord knows else but at the end of the day nothing suspect was found so in effect alot of the protesting was just one team being jealous of the red bull upstarts doing all the winning -

and yeh i saw some of the so called images in slow motion that proved nothing except a front wing will move about somewhat when it bounces over a kerb or whatever as i suspect any of the front wings would do on the other cars if put under the same slow motion microscope --
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You continued to say that it bounced, not flexed for days on end, and refused to believe your own eyes, down to the fact that you claimed the wing was invisible in the videos,
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seriously manx --- what exactly am i looking at in the film clip , there is nothing to see in the film clip as the front wing is all but invisible anyway in the clip and certainly it is not clear what the wing is actually doing as we struggle to actually see it in the first place
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I then painstakingly described which parts of the wing you could see.

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MA, how come you say you cannot see the wing "the front wing was as clear as mud in that clip and to my naked eye all but invisible "
I am gobsmacked...
See the wheels, they are those big black things on the left and right. Then see the nose, that's the thing right in the middle and pointing forwards. In-between these two is the suspension. The top part of the suspended, the upper wishbones look a bit like this < > .
Can you see them?
OK just inside each of the wheels you will notice part of the air ducts for brake cooling. They poke up a bit another the wishbones. Got them?
OK now just beyond those you can see parts of the wing. These are those complicated bits that usually come from the endplates. See them?
Agreed you cannot see the main surface of the wing, but the end plated and the bits we can see are attached to the main wing.
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And still you claimed you couldn't see the blindingly obvious.

And even though you are now 'sort of' saying that it was flexing, you are unwilling to apologise to all those people you argued with for getting it so wrong.

n six

not sure where abouts in that little lot i said the wing was flexing but no matter we can all find some kind minutiae to twist into whatever it is we want to twist -

however ----------- the general point i have always made is i dont believe the red bull wing was doing anything that the rival wings were not doing -

as to why people get all vanessa over my opinions only they can answer that --

So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?

n six

fluck me -- lets not start another 10 pages of complete and utter bollox where everybody forgets what they said anyway and tries to score little ego boosting points from each other to justify whatever it was they have forgotten they said in the first place -

all i have said is basically i dont believe the red bull wing was doing anything that the other wings were not doing --

For simplicity and to avoid confusion please just answer the simple question Martial

The sooner this is cleared up the better as its the only sticking point as far as I can see.



So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?

n six

so you want to start another 10 pages of going over the same thing multiple times with the end result of neither of us agreeing anyway --

It'll only drag on if you dont answer the question. I have no reason to ask it once you've answered. If you want this to stop answer the question and we can move on



So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?

n six

you are starting to talk down to me again nsix -- you know what happens when you do that -

what is it you cannot grasp about the replies i have been giving to people for the last week or more on here -- do you seriously want me to repeat myself multiple times going over the same old crap for another week --

Martial, you've already avoided the question 3 times in a row, thats three posts you didn't have to make. Answer the question please, thats the one and only problem here. Sooner you answer the sooner we move on. Whys this so hard, why are you making this drag on

So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?

n six

you are just asking me silly questions just for sake of it now as you did with your infantile little numbers game -

--- so i will return the favour -- what dont you understand about the replys i gave to you and others for the last week on here -

Martial, what is wrong, why can't you answer the simple question, What do you have to lose? You've now wasted 4 posts when 1 was enough to answer the question.

Answer the question, it won't change, its just a short answer...



So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?

n six

what do want me to say that i have not said multiple times on here --

---- you believe it flexed thats fair enough , i just believe it was not doing anything that the rival wings were not doing -

Still not answering

You seem happy to drag this on, why is this?


So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?