Maybe he should name and shame the players who told him they didn't want to play for England.
Put up or shut up Harry.
Yes but this is the thing many English are incapable of grasping - the fact that it's a team sport means having the best players doesn't make you the best team. It's about performing together in a system that gets the best out of each individual to make the collective greater than the sum of its parts. Look at Costa Rica, or Mexico against Brazil, or Holland against Spain, or even less exaggeratedly South Korea against Russia. Teams who were able to match others who are better individually through collective effort. Do we need better players? Yes. Does better players equal a better team? Absolutely not.
I think a big part of it is tactics. And the manager not having guts to drop players that are meant to be good. England is a whole different team from, Man U, liv arsenal etc, pick players who play well together for England, not just players that play well for individual clubs.
We haven't got the greatest players, but I think with better tactics we would have done better. There's no reason why we can't play high pressure, push up the pitch and play fast on the break. The whole team seem to think they can just turn up and beat every team. Something which badly needs beating out of the players. There never appears to be strong tactics coming through.
We read daily in our newspapers that England's finest are amongst the most gifted in the World. We read that they have talent, pace, strength and unmatched potential. We read that they are coached expertly and frankly, are the World's envy.
Then they go to World Cups and prove that if the World Cup had leagues, they'd be second division mid-to-lower table.
No, the fault does not lie with coaching or playing opportunities or school's lack of PE lessons. It lies with the mental arrogance of a gilded generation of English Premier League players who believe that because they play with some of the best; they must also be one of the best.
Blame lies with a media so obsessed with the Premier League and and so starved of other football competitions that they have no context in which to see that our players are not World Class (I have read over the last few years one or more of Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard, Cole and Ferdinand described as World Class) but average to the extreme.
Evidence? Rooney had all the physical attributes when he burst onto the scene to have become World Class. But since his move to Man Utd he has annually regressed to become a parody of himself - despite World Class facilities at Utd. That isn't a failure of education. It's a weakness of ego.
comment by Dr Huss is the name (U19676)
posted 11 minutes ago
Yes but this is the thing many English are incapable of grasping - the fact that it's a team sport means having the best players doesn't make you the best team. It's about performing together in a system that gets the best out of each individual to make the collective greater than the sum of its parts. Look at Costa Rica, or Mexico against Brazil, or Holland against Spain, or even less exaggeratedly South Korea against Russia. Teams who were able to match others who are better individually through collective effort. Do we need better players? Yes. Does better players equal a better team? Absolutely not.
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It's why I've never understood when fans go oh this player should've been selected as he's the best we've got.
If the manager doesn't think he'll work then why should we have to force him in to the team simply because he's the best individual player.
Anyone who says Rooney should be playing simply because he's the best player we have is nuts. Whether he should be in the team or not though is another discussion.
Dr Huss is the name (U19676)
Are you copying posts from somewhere and passing them off as your own? Your article headline doesnt tally up with the article content and your subsequent two comments are just random ramblings.
There is no patriotism in the current crop of English players(at some extent people).
Should we force every player to be proud to wear the England shirt?
I was going to ask if 'arry is one of the spuuud wums on here but then remembered that 'arry cant read or write.
If I were a world class player I wouldn't want to play for England. Why open up a player to abuse for something like that?
I really don't get what the big deal is. It's not like they're legally obliged to play for their national side.
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posted on 23/6/14
Maybe he should name and shame the players who told him they didn't want to play for England.
Put up or shut up Harry.
posted on 23/6/14
Yes but this is the thing many English are incapable of grasping - the fact that it's a team sport means having the best players doesn't make you the best team. It's about performing together in a system that gets the best out of each individual to make the collective greater than the sum of its parts. Look at Costa Rica, or Mexico against Brazil, or Holland against Spain, or even less exaggeratedly South Korea against Russia. Teams who were able to match others who are better individually through collective effort. Do we need better players? Yes. Does better players equal a better team? Absolutely not.
posted on 23/6/14
I think a big part of it is tactics. And the manager not having guts to drop players that are meant to be good. England is a whole different team from, Man U, liv arsenal etc, pick players who play well together for England, not just players that play well for individual clubs.
We haven't got the greatest players, but I think with better tactics we would have done better. There's no reason why we can't play high pressure, push up the pitch and play fast on the break. The whole team seem to think they can just turn up and beat every team. Something which badly needs beating out of the players. There never appears to be strong tactics coming through.
posted on 23/6/14
We read daily in our newspapers that England's finest are amongst the most gifted in the World. We read that they have talent, pace, strength and unmatched potential. We read that they are coached expertly and frankly, are the World's envy.
Then they go to World Cups and prove that if the World Cup had leagues, they'd be second division mid-to-lower table.
No, the fault does not lie with coaching or playing opportunities or school's lack of PE lessons. It lies with the mental arrogance of a gilded generation of English Premier League players who believe that because they play with some of the best; they must also be one of the best.
Blame lies with a media so obsessed with the Premier League and and so starved of other football competitions that they have no context in which to see that our players are not World Class (I have read over the last few years one or more of Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard, Cole and Ferdinand described as World Class) but average to the extreme.
Evidence? Rooney had all the physical attributes when he burst onto the scene to have become World Class. But since his move to Man Utd he has annually regressed to become a parody of himself - despite World Class facilities at Utd. That isn't a failure of education. It's a weakness of ego.
posted on 23/6/14
comment by Dr Huss is the name (U19676)
posted 11 minutes ago
Yes but this is the thing many English are incapable of grasping - the fact that it's a team sport means having the best players doesn't make you the best team. It's about performing together in a system that gets the best out of each individual to make the collective greater than the sum of its parts. Look at Costa Rica, or Mexico against Brazil, or Holland against Spain, or even less exaggeratedly South Korea against Russia. Teams who were able to match others who are better individually through collective effort. Do we need better players? Yes. Does better players equal a better team? Absolutely not.
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This
It's why I've never understood when fans go oh this player should've been selected as he's the best we've got.
If the manager doesn't think he'll work then why should we have to force him in to the team simply because he's the best individual player.
Anyone who says Rooney should be playing simply because he's the best player we have is nuts. Whether he should be in the team or not though is another discussion.
posted on 23/6/14
Dr Huss is the name (U19676)
Are you copying posts from somewhere and passing them off as your own? Your article headline doesnt tally up with the article content and your subsequent two comments are just random ramblings.
posted on 23/6/14
There is no patriotism in the current crop of English players(at some extent people).
posted on 23/6/14
Should we force every player to be proud to wear the England shirt?
posted on 23/6/14
I was going to ask if 'arry is one of the spuuud wums on here but then remembered that 'arry cant read or write.
posted on 23/6/14
If I were a world class player I wouldn't want to play for England. Why open up a player to abuse for something like that?
I really don't get what the big deal is. It's not like they're legally obliged to play for their national side.
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