Perhaps you could be a bit more specific about what it is you are trying to say!!

Agreed Numbers, it's so obvious how little England payers care when you look at other sides.. we're down there with Portugal as feckless underachievers.

Even France have sorted their act out!

We matched the World champions Spain, now that's progress

England problem is that the players aren't wiling to go abroad to expand their game. In international level you need to keep the ball because it's not always 100mph stuff like PL. Due to the money being offered they prefer to stay in England. You can say money has ruined the game but without money PL wouldn't be so popular

"We matched the World champions Spain, now that's progress"

What rises from the ashes will be more interesting.
Germany after a poor (by their standards) Euro 2000 had a root and branch inquisition of their national game, and changes were made meaning business as usual again soon enough.

Spain will no doubt do similar about the Barca-fied style that has failed this month, and also has been found wanting in the CL the past two seasons. We'll see how long it takes for them to get back to where they want to be.

As for England ...

the style didnt fail the players did

and well spain werent really playing tiki taka anyway

I think Spain will have to adapt to a more direct possession game to get the best out of Costa as there isn't another Xavi around and Iniesta isn't getting any younger.

Pep must be realising how lucky he was there, Bayern dominated the league but only because they've got by far the best squad, put average players in there and it falls apart.

Pochettino is the man

I disagree. HIghly paid players from other countries perform.

I'd say the biggest difference is the pressure, then boos then witchhunting and scapegoating that goes on makes it too stressful to perform and the consequences too high. No wonder some players didn't want to be called up.

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very good comment by fridgeboy.

100% spot on.

i would look half decent playing alongside suarez

Sturridge scores almost twice as many goals when Suarez doesn't play

and Sterling hit form when both Sturridge and Suarez were going through 'shiite patches' of form

you people just make shiite up to 'validate' some preconceived notions. it's not reality

to be honest, unless you are a lower league fan (and even still then), virtually no one puts the England team ahead of their club, so the situation wont improve.

i will be absolutely furious if spurs start buying inferior players because they are English.

it was one of the reasons that it was essential that Sherwood was booted out the club before he did some serious harm like sell all our best foreign players and replace them with inferior players because they were English.

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Sturridge scores almost twice as many goals when Suarez doesn't play

and Sterling hit form when both Sturridge and Suarez were going through 'shiite patches' of form

you people just make shiite up to 'validate' some preconceived notions. it's not reality

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suarez was unavailable for too short a time period to get an effective sample from.

how many games did he miss? 6? and who were those games again?

don't be so simple.

We're bottom of the group because with our squad, we should be.

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I disagree.

If we'd dealt with Pirlo and Suarez we could have got through, it's not like either of them are new to us and we weren't thrashed.. we could've done better than we have, as Ibra said - fine margins.

Well said fridge

Murdoch & the Premiership are the death of national football. They will soon be the death of English football as they steam ahead to the European league their greed craves.

Then and only then will English fans have a chance to have fair representative football within our nation.

i think England have played quite well at the euros. its a transition between getting old players out and young players in.

why do fans have such trouble accepting that during transition spells, invariably results will be poor.

i think England have played quite well at the euros

When Suarez is out, Coutinho comes in. It's easy to see why Sturridge still performed. I'm talking about removing all foreign players then seeing what you have. I'm not saying they can't play at all, more that the standard drops significantly.

People talk about 'if we'd dealt with Pirlo and Suarez', well, that's my point, where's our Pirlo and Suarez? It's no good trying to contain. We have to be bold, but it's hard when you simply don't have the personnel. Against Italy, on another day we would have been battered. 1 off the line, 2 off the post. Plus we've just played Italy and Uruguay, 2 teams considered great but aren't exactly going through a great spell themselves. I'd like to see us play a team like Germany to see where we really are.

Kaiser, what do you think about Barca reportedly coming in for Suarez?

People talk about 'if we'd dealt with Pirlo and Suarez', well, that's my point, where's our Pirlo and Suarez? It's no good trying to contain. We have to be bold, but it's hard when you simply don't have the personnel

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Costa Rica don't have a Pirlo or Suarez, they picked players and a system to beat them regardless - that's my point.

In our case we'd have been better with at least one in the middle purely there to protect our back line - Barry on Pirlo means we don't need one and can use our pace on the break..

"how many games did he miss? 6?"

11 spanning the end of one season to the start of the next. enough to get a good idea.


"Kaiser, what do you think about Barca reportedly coming in for Suarez?"

only a matter of time. he's too good for England.

The bottom line is most of the England players are so overrated. It`s a joke how the so called golden generation of players, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Cole are all on 100 caps or thereabouts, without actually having achieved SFA. None of them should have been anywhere near 40 caps at most.