Your logic is strange. According to you Floyd fights past it robots, yet you say Canelo is a counter puncher. A robot counter puncher, yeah?
You rank Thurman at three, after beating Soto Karass and Diaz.. fluid technical fighters.
It's ok to have favorites, but..
If floyd beats Porter or Thurman, what will you say then?
Khan is a fundamentally flawed fighter. Besides his glass jaw, he has no inside game whatsover and relies on illegal tactics to keep the fight at distance. Nothing has changed there. If you think Floyd is afraid of Khan, who was knocked out by Prescott, and almost knocked out by Diaz and Limond, you need to evaluate how you are judging fighters.
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"Khan is a fundamentally flawed fighter. Besides his glass jaw, he has no inside game whatsover and relies on illegal tactics to keep the fight at distance. Nothing has changed there. If you think Floyd is afraid of Khan, who was knocked out by Prescott, and almost knocked out by Diaz and Limond, you need to evaluate how you are judging fighters."
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Aaah the old triangle theories. Nice one. Prescott knocking Khan out has absolutely nothing with a Floyd fight. Styles make fights etc.
The last time Floyd fought somebody with anywhere near Khan's speed was almost 10 years ago. I wonder why he hasn't gone near another speedy fighter since then?
I guess he will fight at least one of those three. Probably Khan but who knows. People who rate Floyd are not necessarily nuthuggers. Boxing isn't like football.
Khan used the same pushing tactics against Collazo, even if it was a better performance. He can get away with that when he is the money fighter, but not against Mayweather.
He should fight all 3 really, but I would be happy with just 1 because that's the kind of low standard he has set.
Floyd pushes, elbows and holds more than Khan btw...
Can't be bothered with a top 10.
Floyd
Marquez
Pac
Followed by Porter I suppose.
Pushes and holds more than Khan? Ok.
can't be bothered with a top 10? it takes likes 1 minute... do you not know enough to put together a list? (genuine question, not being smug)
Can't believe you have Marquez at #2 though, he hasn't beaten anyone at 147 other than Pac, who's not a legit 147 pounder.
"Pushes and holds more than Khan? Ok."
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lol this isn't even up for debate, Floyd holds like there's no tomorrow...
Up until his last fight, Khan wasn't really a serial holder, Virgil has started implementing that into his game just recently
Not a legit 147.. but you have him at number 1.
And pushing is up for debate is it?
"Not a legit 147.. but you have him at number 1."
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how about you use some common sense? I meant in terms of weight/size. Pac has achieved enough at 147 to be considered the best, but naturally he's about the same size as Marquez. A win over Bradley is better than anything Floyd has achieved at 147.
"And pushing is up for debate is it?"
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no, Floyd pushes and uses his elbows for fun
Why don't you just accept you are a Pacquiao fan boy, and that is where your hatred of Floyd comes from?
well done on completely ignoring the points I made you helmet. it seems you can't back up your irrational opinions.
Khan relies massively on shoving his opponents away. He has been warned, and even docked points for it. Yet you think Floyd is more guilty.
Your idol pac is aparently the best in the division, yet a decisive knockout win over him means nothing.
Kam, I respect your enthusiasm for boxing. It's great. But you have to learn to put personal bias aside when judging fighters.
if you're referring to Khan's point deductions against Peterson, that was a joke. he got like 2 warnings and deducted points back to back. floyd gets away with that stuff, he elbows his opponents non-stop, gets away with it.
Pac is not my idol, he's simply one of the many fighters I like. I keep it completely unbiased.
Why have you got Marquez above Bradley?
I never said a win over Pac means nothing, it's just that that's all he's done at 147...
I have no personal bias, I kept it objective. My dislike for a fighter has nothing to do with what he does in the ring.
For example I don't like Froch but can't deny what he's done in the ring.
Stop talking out of your backside and tell me what I've said that's biased?
Who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley?
Floyd is 1 until he loses.
Pac is 1 and 1 with Bradley and was brutally stopped by Marquez.
You put Thurman at three purely on your own judgement of how good he is.
That is why you got froch groves so wrong. You looked at froch's style and completely disregarded is pedigree in big fights.
Floyd is dirty with the elbow, but he does it discreetly. Hopkins is dirty too. There is skill in using dirty tactics and they are both masters of it. Khan just blatently shoves his opponents away to avoid pressure, in every fight.
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Easy to predic groves would have some joy, but you predicted him to flatten froch.
Groves made a mistake? Yeah, well why wouldn't he? Seeing as he hadn't proven himself not to. Froch on the other hand has proven again and again that he can go all they way against world class opponents. That's the difference and that's why you don't rank the Thurmans above guys like Marquez.
You think Floyd would lose to Bradley? Or Marquez like your idol Pacquiao?
"Easy to predic groves would have some joy, but you predicted him to flatten froch."
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No I didn't, go to the prediction thread and check my prediction, I predicted a wide UD.
"Groves made a mistake? Yeah, well why wouldn't he? Seeing as he hadn't proven himself not to. Froch on the other hand has proven again and again that he can go all they way against world class opponents. That's the difference and that's why you don't rank the Thurmans above guys like Marquez."
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What? When did I say anything about Groves making a mistakes (he didn't, but I didn't mention that), get a grip. And like I said I've never denied anything Froch has done in the ring, so not sure wtf you're talking about.
"You think Floyd would lose to Bradley? Or Marquez like your idol Pacquiao?"
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hahaha lmfaoooo I can taste your tears through my screen.
No Bradley hasn't got the right style to beat Floyd, Floyd would beat him easy. Same with Marquez as we already saw, he's got the wrong skillset.
But that doesn't answer the question I asked you, stop ducking like Floyd. Who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley?
Hit me up with your top 10 SLS, nothing to be afraid of m8.
"he did*, but I didn't mention that
What tears? I predicted froch to stop groves, and Bradley to give Pac a tough night.
Unlike you.
Maywether is the man at 147 and 154 until someone beats him
ducking my questions like your idol ducks dangerous fighters. nice job.
I'll try again, who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley and what is your top 10?
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Your logic is strange. According to you Floyd fights past it robots, yet you say Canelo is a counter puncher. A robot counter puncher, yeah?
You rank Thurman at three, after beating Soto Karass and Diaz.. fluid technical fighters.
It's ok to have favorites, but..
If floyd beats Porter or Thurman, what will you say then?
posted on 2/7/14
Khan is a fundamentally flawed fighter. Besides his glass jaw, he has no inside game whatsover and relies on illegal tactics to keep the fight at distance. Nothing has changed there. If you think Floyd is afraid of Khan, who was knocked out by Prescott, and almost knocked out by Diaz and Limond, you need to evaluate how you are judging fighters.
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"Khan is a fundamentally flawed fighter. Besides his glass jaw, he has no inside game whatsover and relies on illegal tactics to keep the fight at distance. Nothing has changed there. If you think Floyd is afraid of Khan, who was knocked out by Prescott, and almost knocked out by Diaz and Limond, you need to evaluate how you are judging fighters."
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Aaah the old triangle theories. Nice one. Prescott knocking Khan out has absolutely nothing with a Floyd fight. Styles make fights etc.
The last time Floyd fought somebody with anywhere near Khan's speed was almost 10 years ago. I wonder why he hasn't gone near another speedy fighter since then?
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what's your top 10 btw?
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I guess he will fight at least one of those three. Probably Khan but who knows. People who rate Floyd are not necessarily nuthuggers. Boxing isn't like football.
Khan used the same pushing tactics against Collazo, even if it was a better performance. He can get away with that when he is the money fighter, but not against Mayweather.
posted on 2/7/14
He should fight all 3 really, but I would be happy with just 1 because that's the kind of low standard he has set.
Floyd pushes, elbows and holds more than Khan btw...
posted on 2/7/14
Can't be bothered with a top 10.
Floyd
Marquez
Pac
Followed by Porter I suppose.
posted on 2/7/14
Pushes and holds more than Khan? Ok.
posted on 2/7/14
can't be bothered with a top 10? it takes likes 1 minute... do you not know enough to put together a list? (genuine question, not being smug)
Can't believe you have Marquez at #2 though, he hasn't beaten anyone at 147 other than Pac, who's not a legit 147 pounder.
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"Pushes and holds more than Khan? Ok."
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lol this isn't even up for debate, Floyd holds like there's no tomorrow...
Up until his last fight, Khan wasn't really a serial holder, Virgil has started implementing that into his game just recently
posted on 2/7/14
Not a legit 147.. but you have him at number 1.
posted on 2/7/14
And pushing is up for debate is it?
posted on 2/7/14
"Not a legit 147.. but you have him at number 1."
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how about you use some common sense? I meant in terms of weight/size. Pac has achieved enough at 147 to be considered the best, but naturally he's about the same size as Marquez. A win over Bradley is better than anything Floyd has achieved at 147.
"And pushing is up for debate is it?"
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no, Floyd pushes and uses his elbows for fun
posted on 2/7/14
Why don't you just accept you are a Pacquiao fan boy, and that is where your hatred of Floyd comes from?
posted on 2/7/14
well done on completely ignoring the points I made you helmet. it seems you can't back up your irrational opinions.
posted on 2/7/14
Khan relies massively on shoving his opponents away. He has been warned, and even docked points for it. Yet you think Floyd is more guilty.
Your idol pac is aparently the best in the division, yet a decisive knockout win over him means nothing.
Kam, I respect your enthusiasm for boxing. It's great. But you have to learn to put personal bias aside when judging fighters.
posted on 2/7/14
if you're referring to Khan's point deductions against Peterson, that was a joke. he got like 2 warnings and deducted points back to back. floyd gets away with that stuff, he elbows his opponents non-stop, gets away with it.
Pac is not my idol, he's simply one of the many fighters I like. I keep it completely unbiased.
Why have you got Marquez above Bradley?
I never said a win over Pac means nothing, it's just that that's all he's done at 147...
I have no personal bias, I kept it objective. My dislike for a fighter has nothing to do with what he does in the ring.
For example I don't like Froch but can't deny what he's done in the ring.
Stop talking out of your backside and tell me what I've said that's biased?
Who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley?
posted on 2/7/14
Floyd is 1 until he loses.
Pac is 1 and 1 with Bradley and was brutally stopped by Marquez.
You put Thurman at three purely on your own judgement of how good he is.
That is why you got froch groves so wrong. You looked at froch's style and completely disregarded is pedigree in big fights.
Floyd is dirty with the elbow, but he does it discreetly. Hopkins is dirty too. There is skill in using dirty tactics and they are both masters of it. Khan just blatently shoves his opponents away to avoid pressure, in every fight.
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Easy to predic groves would have some joy, but you predicted him to flatten froch.
Groves made a mistake? Yeah, well why wouldn't he? Seeing as he hadn't proven himself not to. Froch on the other hand has proven again and again that he can go all they way against world class opponents. That's the difference and that's why you don't rank the Thurmans above guys like Marquez.
You think Floyd would lose to Bradley? Or Marquez like your idol Pacquiao?
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"Easy to predic groves would have some joy, but you predicted him to flatten froch."
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No I didn't, go to the prediction thread and check my prediction, I predicted a wide UD.
"Groves made a mistake? Yeah, well why wouldn't he? Seeing as he hadn't proven himself not to. Froch on the other hand has proven again and again that he can go all they way against world class opponents. That's the difference and that's why you don't rank the Thurmans above guys like Marquez."
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What? When did I say anything about Groves making a mistakes (he didn't, but I didn't mention that), get a grip. And like I said I've never denied anything Froch has done in the ring, so not sure wtf you're talking about.
"You think Floyd would lose to Bradley? Or Marquez like your idol Pacquiao?"
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hahaha lmfaoooo I can taste your tears through my screen.
No Bradley hasn't got the right style to beat Floyd, Floyd would beat him easy. Same with Marquez as we already saw, he's got the wrong skillset.
But that doesn't answer the question I asked you, stop ducking like Floyd. Who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley?
Hit me up with your top 10 SLS, nothing to be afraid of m8.
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"he did*, but I didn't mention that
posted on 2/7/14
What tears? I predicted froch to stop groves, and Bradley to give Pac a tough night.
Unlike you.
Maywether is the man at 147 and 154 until someone beats him
posted on 2/7/14
ducking my questions like your idol ducks dangerous fighters. nice job.
I'll try again, who has Floyd beaten at 147 that's better than Bradley and what is your top 10?
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