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Isn't it obvious Kam? It should be to anyone not blindly hanging from someone's nuts.

It's a keep busy opponent that should be a nothing fight. You can't admonish Floyd for picking Maidana over Khan and in the same breath think this is okay for Manny.

Can't wait for the pair of them to retire tbh so we can stop drooling over 2 idiots that don't care for the fans and try and pass off fights like these as mega fights.

Well said Derby.

Who would you rather see Pac fight then (realistically, knowing the network/promotion barriers etc)?

People wouldn't say anything if Pac was fighting Provodnikov next, well Algieri just beat him. Algieri is a good boxer, I'd rather see Pac fight somebody like Thurman or Khan, but it's just not possible atm, GBP and Haymon are still trying to work out which fighters have contracts with them etc

TBH Kam i'd rather not see him or Floyd fight again.

But you do have a point with who could he fight anyway and he's painted himself into a corner with it all now.

I'd personally like to have seen him offer the chance to Khan to see if he'd take it. Although is he really a better opponent than Algieri (who I thought did brill against prov)

Arum has said he's trying to make a Khan fight for November, but he's not sure about what Khan's situation is with GBP/Haymon. It would be a great fight.

So Floyd is a ducker for fighting Canelo and Maidana. But Algieri is a good opponent. You have got to be on the wind up.

How can Floyd be a ducker for fighting Canelo??? That's the one fight of the last few years that everyone was clamouring for

"So Floyd is a ducker for fighting Canelo and Maidana. But Algieri is a good opponent. You have got to be on the wind up."
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this is what I mean with you Flomos, you deserve the label and cannot be reasoned with.

Floyd is a ducker because he ducks dangerous and prime fighters.

Canelo and Maidana are cherry-picked fights, he can get away with it if he fights stylistically more challenging or dangerous fighters.

So tell me, who would you like to see Pac fight next?

comment by Kamran. (U1204)
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"So Floyd is a ducker for fighting Canelo and Maidana. But Algieri is a good opponent. You have got to be on the wind up."
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this is what I mean with you Flomos, you deserve the label and cannot be reasoned with.

Floyd is a ducker because he ducks dangerous and prime fighters.

Canelo and Maidana are cherry-picked fights, he can get away with it if he fights stylistically more challenging or dangerous fighters.

So tell me, who would you like to see Pac fight next?
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This is where you let yourself down Kam and come across looking a complete 'pactard'.

You have some good observations and shown me a couple of things I didn't know but you cannot in any serious way say Floyd is a ducker for fighting Alvarez and to do so shows you up to be (in the parlayance of the kids) a 'hater'.

(You can on the other hand go on about the catchweights as they really pee me off

I wouldn't have minded seeing Pac in with Alvarez to be honest but I think he may be getting too big now.

What I'd like to see too, is Pac call a press conference, and state he's willing to fight Floyd at the venue of his choice on the date of his choice with a purse split of 30/30 and the remaining 40 to go in a pot which the winner will get.

Arums still building a stadium in Vegas for he Floyd fight so that won't happen, khans said he will fight pacman so where's the offer? Personally there both cherry puckers and the best opponent any of them have faced in a long time was alverez, alverez and oscar have also came out today and said they have no intentions on moving up to MW anytime soon and may stay at the weight forever

Also Floyd is singed with haymon how do you expect him to fight manny when they don't do business? Also manny is the only fighter to turn the fight down twice

Came across this article few days ago. Only had 7 comments. What the hell went on?

It got on to Floyd and Manny and blew up as per Mr C, think we should all just agree they're both n0bbers and move on

"You have some good observations and shown me a couple of things I didn't know but you cannot in any serious way say Floyd is a ducker for fighting Alvarez and to do so shows you up to be (in the parlayance of the kids) a 'hater'."
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this is how I know you're a casual, you're talking like Canelo is some elite fighter. he's not, he's a B level boxer-puncher who doesn't have the style to cause Floyd problems. it was a cherry-pick and I said it wouldn't be a competitive fight when it was first announced, so did many others.

"What I'd like to see too, is Pac call a press conference, and state he's willing to fight Floyd at the venue of his choice on the date of his choice with a purse split of 30/30 and the remaining 40 to go in a pot which the winner will get."
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Pac has made every offer possible, agreed to give Floyd a bigger split of the money, agreed to take tests on the day of the fight etc etc. I think he has just accepted now that Floyd will never fight him. So have I.

This is such a tiresome argument, everything thread seems to turn into a Pac-Floyd argument

I am a casual Kam, I've never stated otherwise. (I don't see why people see this as an insult, it doesn't invalidate the opinion you hold)

I also think Manny and Floyd could have done things differently to try and deliver the fight but am now more on the side that Floyd really doesn't want the fight (which I think he'd win btw,)

The last bit was said firmly tongue in cheek as I'd love to see Floyd's reaction and how he'd try and back out of it (It made me chuckle watching the videos you pointed me to last time where he was saying he never said he'd fight Pac next

Canelo at the time though was seen by many to be his toughest test to date and was being groomed as the next best thing. (I can appreciate that you didn't think so but a lot of other people did.)

A Pac and Floyd debate can be good but both sides just throw insults instead of trying to accept that some people see things differently. And refuse to see where 'their' fighter has done wrong. Then again if we all held the same opinions it'd be boring

"I am a casual Kam, I've never stated otherwise. (I don't see why people see this as an insult, it doesn't invalidate the opinion you hold)"
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It wasn't an insult

"Canelo at the time though was seen by many to be his toughest test to date and was being groomed as the next best thing. (I can appreciate that you didn't think so but a lot of other people did.)"
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Casuals did. If you search back to the time when it was confirmed, myself and D4 said it wouldn't be a competitive fight.

"A Pac and Floyd debate can be good but both sides just throw insults instead of trying to accept that some people see things differently. And refuse to see where 'their' fighter has done wrong. Then again if we all held the same opinions it'd be boring"
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Honestly I'm absolutely sick of talking about Pac vs Floyd, I tell myself everytime I'm not going to get involved but...<laugh.

Sorry Kam, just read that back I didn't mean to imply you were using it as an insult as I didn't think you was, just making an observation that some people get annoyed being called that. I'm happy with it and liketo learn more about the sport from the more knowledgable fans.

I read on a few sites about Canelo and a lot of people were predicting Floyd was going to duck him due to him being the best opponent (bar Pac.)

Got to admit I like Canelo though and am hoping he can go very far.

Fair enough

Canelo will always struggle against boxers because he doesn't apply pressure, he fight's at their pace. He's not a good enough boxer to outbox a pure boxer, see what I mean?

His size advantage against Floyd didn't mean much because of that. He fought at Floyd's pace and tried to outbox him. The catchweight didn't make a difference, stylistically it's just an easy match-up for Floyd because he can fight at a slow tempo with no pressure on him, pick his shots all day

fights at their pace*

Kamran you and D4 also said that when it was announced that pacman might be fighting alverez you both said it was a dangerous fight and he's a lot better now (well d4 did) since 2011 Floyd has been to blame for it not happening before that it was manny, manny also turned down 40m 2years ago, which after being ko my Marquez he maybe should've taken, bob arum and manny have never once offered Floyd a decent deal it's always Floyd having to offer him

After seeing the maidana fight which Floyd clearly one though I recon manny has he upper hand now as Floyd's legs are gone/going

I've never said anything about Pac vs Canelo, but I'll say it now...Pac would disfigure Canelo's face.

Also that 40m was bullshi.t, not only is 40m an absolute joke of an offer considering the fight would generate over 200m, but it's also not up to Pac to accept that, he has a promoter and at least half of that money would have to go to Arum, which makes the offer even more ridiculous.

Pacquaio offered Floyd a 55-45 split and offered to do drug testing on the day of the fight and after the fight. Floyd said 'what if I lose'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L5IT_9AsoE

"After seeing the maidana fight which Floyd clearly one though I recon manny has he upper hand now as Floyd's legs are gone/going"
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I think it's the other way around, the more time goes on the more the tide is turning in Floyd's favour. Pac is nowhere near his best anymore