comment by Currently considering Optional Screen Name (U19270)

posted 46 seconds ago

No scientist has ever created life from the "amino acids that came to earth on an asteroid" and until they do then they can't claim God does not exist

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This is the recurring theme - it's up to scientists to prove things, creationists say "prove it" and if you can't then everything you say is untrue. Scientists say "prove it" to creationists and they say "we don't have to, because we believe. And a book was written 2000 years ago which is 100% true". It's childish on the creationists side if anything.

Plus in Genesis it says that we "came from dust and to dust we shall return" and we do come from the dust of a supernova explosion and it also says "let there be light" which perfectly describes the Big Bang so the Bible was right and that was written thousands of years ago.

The odds of a "fairytale" book describing these two things are astronomical so God clearly exists and I hear so many people saying "OMG" or "God" that He must exist and Hawking is wrong. But he's been wrong before and I hope that when he meets God, they can put their differences aside and enjoy paradise.

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Is this serious?

The odds of a book saying "let there be light" and "we all come from dust" and being vaguely correct according to science are not astronomical.

No scientist has ever created life from the "amino acids that came to earth on an asteroid" and until they do then they can't claim God does not exist since they can't explain the fundamental question of how life began.

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Its more difficult (near impossible) to prove that something does not exist. There is no evidence whatsoever to point to the existence of a god or creator.

Could you prove that Santa doesn't exist?

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by conormcgrace (U4307)
posted 39 seconds ago
Which all makes the Big Bang v Creationism argument rather pointless because we don't have a fackin clue!

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We can be pretty certain that Creationism isn't the answer.
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Pretty certain, aye.

The Big Bang is a better theory but that's all it is - a theory. Instead of both sides rejecting the other we could compromise on the big bang being God's fart?
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A "Scientific Theory", however, is not the same as a "theory" as used in common English... It's more what one would describe, in every day use, as a "fact".

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation

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comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 5 seconds ago
No scientist has ever created life from the "amino acids that came to earth on an asteroid" and until they do then they can't claim God does not exist since they can't explain the fundamental question of how life began.

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Its more difficult (near impossible) to prove that something does not exist. There is no evidence whatsoever to point to the existence of a god or creator.

Could you prove that Santa doesn't exist?
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see my previous comment:

This is the recurring theme - it's up to scientists to prove things, creationists say "prove it" and if you can't then everything you say is untrue. Scientists say "prove it" to creationists and they say "we don't have to, because we believe. And a book was written 2000 years ago which is 100% true". It's childish on the creationists side if anything.

comment by Metro. (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
We can be pretty certain that Creationism isn't the answer.
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Really? What does that leave us then?

Spontaneous existence? Infinite existence?

If anything, science tells us that the univers emust have a cause so those two would be ruled out - certainly the latter
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Do you know what Creationism is? It's not the belief that God created the universe? It's the belief that God created the world in 6 days 7000 years ago.

comment by Metro. (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
We can be pretty certain that Creationism isn't the answer.
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Really? What does that leave us then?

Spontaneous existence? Infinite existence?

If anything, science tells us that the univers emust have a cause so those two would be ruled out - certainly the latter
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It is spontaneous, a complete set of freak conditions. There is no purpose for us being here, we just are.

I'm glad that the whole objective of science is to disprove religious theorem

I'm a muslim but a pretty awful one, even though I don't take my religion that serious I just refuse to believe this entire world was just made by 'accident' from a big bang.

Personally, although I am not religious myself, I believe that it is totally impossible to entirely rule out the concept of a God per se. How can science disprove God when you can technically argue that science could be created by God?

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'm glad that the whole objective of science is to disprove religious theorem
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Well, that's the "opposition" isn't it - challenging long held and widespread beliefs of creationism is what scientific investigation of evolution is.

Everyone is free to not believe the Big Bang theory - but to dismiss it on grounds of farfetchery if you are religious seems a bit silly.

comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
posted 12 seconds ago
Personally, although I am not religious myself, I believe that it is totally impossible to entirely rule out the concept of a God per se. How can science disprove God when you can technically argue that science could be created by God?
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In that case, why would "God" leave so many facts that argue 100% against his existence?

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 10 seconds ago
Everyone is free to not believe the Big Bang theory - but to dismiss it on grounds of farfetchery if you are religious seems a bit silly.
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Another recurring theme....

comment by Robben van Persie #20 - He Shcores When He Wantsh (U1145)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'm glad that the whole objective of science is to disprove religious theorem
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Well, that's the "opposition" isn't it - challenging long held and widespread beliefs of creationism is what scientific investigation of evolution is.
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Sorry i was being sarcastic. I'm ACTUALLY glad that real scientists couldn't give a fack about disproving religion. They're more focused on proving things - a positive

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It is spontaneous
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How would science support that ?

I think people's concept of time and what it actually is is important to understanding the big bang. Once you accept that there was no 'before' the big bang and look at it in terms of physical laws, it's not as scary, but still tear-jerkingly, groin-grabbingly confusing

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Robben van Persie #20 - He Shcores When He Wantsh (U1145)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'm glad that the whole objective of science is to disprove religious theorem
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Well, that's the "opposition" isn't it - challenging long held and widespread beliefs of creationism is what scientific investigation of evolution is.
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Sorry i was being sarcastic. I'm ACTUALLY glad that real scientists couldn't give a fack about disproving religion. They're more focused on proving things - a positive
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My bad

I think the Big Bang Theory is stupid.

I prefer How I Met Your Mother.

comment by Vaglin (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago

We are not meant to know.
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This! There's shít in the universe that, had we set off at the beginning of time, we'd never reach in the lifetime of the universe - Why should it play by the rules we've discovered and interpreted.

Can someone more scientifically excellent than me tell me if they know the name of the theoretical particle that actually lives backwards through time??

comment by Robben van Persie #20 - He Shcores When He Wantsh (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
posted 12 seconds ago
Personally, although I am not religious myself, I believe that it is totally impossible to entirely rule out the concept of a God per se. How can science disprove God when you can technically argue that science could be created by God?
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In that case, why would "God" leave so many facts that argue 100% against his existence?
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Nothing is certain really, for all you know you could be hallucinating everything you percieve, we could be in the Matrix for all we know. And because of that you cannot really prove anything 100%.

The other issue you have is that the idea of God isn't a constant one. One person's interpretation could be completely different to another.

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comment by Metro. (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is spontaneous
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How would science support that ?
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Through the Big Bang model. There are graphics which show the process from big bang to now, and how everything perfectly aligned for this one small planet within one small star system within one small galaxy...