And thanks to Gove's latest pet project, we'll have such schools for each religion.

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All 'religious' schools should be banned. We need more diversification not segregation. I went to a C of E school in the late 80's, full of pupils from all creed, colours and religions, and religion was never really part of the school day. In fact at the final 'Christmas Nativity' I did, I played Robin Hood!

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comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 second ago
And thanks to Gove's latest pet project, we'll have such schools for each religion.

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All 'religious' schools should be banned. We need more diversification not segregation. I went to a C of E school in the late 80's, full of pupils from all creed, colours and religions, and religion was never really part of the school day. In fact at the final 'Christmas Nativity' I did, I played Robin Hood!
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So why does it need to be banned then?

" Peace loving religion indeed."

These are the people that are going to finish us all off, people who say things like this - from all 'sides'.

And to call the event apartheid is silly. Apartheid was a preset idea to oppress and discriminate against people they see as inferior.
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Nelson Mandela who new a thing or two about apartheid himself said that the people of Palestine are under apartheid.

comment by Goonerbabe (U11922)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you - Free Gaza (U19085)
posted 2 minutes ago

In America few years ago where a dude started shooting kids and teachers, would you not call that terrorism?
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Difference is that they're in their country. I don't mind that, but don't bring that crap to other countries and citizens minding their own business.
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You don't mind mass murder if it's domestic?

Israel is in Palestine......so their murder is also domestic

"Difference is that they're in their country. I don't mind that"

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Not the greatest choice of words there, dumbass.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 43 seconds ago
" Peace loving religion indeed."

These are the people that are going to finish us all off, people who say things like this - from all 'sides'.
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You see it in every day arguments. You can see when someone's about to say something stupid and cause a fight...everyone knows it's going to happen...but no one can do anything...because they say it and shít kicks off.

comment by fred (U9833)
posted 3 minutes ago
The I R A committed some horrible atrocities during the troubles in Northern Ireland (as did both sides). The British Government did some terrible things too (Bloody Sunday, internment, Gilford, Birmingham 6,etc..) but not once did they consider bombing or blowing up towns, cities, schools, hospitals, etc……unlike Israel

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err, yes they did. A hotel in Brighton, the Hilton in Park Lane (which I very narrowly missed back in the 70s) a shopping centre in Manchester.... the town of Eniskillen - the list goes on.
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If Britain were close to getting invaded or regularly got told that they would get wiped off the map, then maybe they'd defend themselves more aggressively.

That's not to say Israel are right. Their government is selfish and only cares about itself/survival in government. I don't think politicians should have the power to command/order for people to get killed.

comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
And to call the event apartheid is silly. Apartheid was a preset idea to oppress and discriminate against people they see as inferior.
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Nelson Mandela who new a thing or two about apartheid himself said that the people of Palestine are under apartheid.
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You seen the letter he wrote to the Israeli PM at the time? Pretty fackin good

comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 second ago
And thanks to Gove's latest pet project, we'll have such schools for each religion.

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All 'religious' schools should be banned. We need more diversification not segregation. I went to a C of E school in the late 80's, full of pupils from all creed, colours and religions, and religion was never really part of the school day. In fact at the final 'Christmas Nativity' I did, I played Robin Hood!
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So why does it need to be banned then?
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I think he made his point with the 'religious' part in quotes. A bit subtle, but still there.

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This has to be one of the best discussions on here in ages.

comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fred (U9833)
posted 3 minutes ago
The I R A committed some horrible atrocities during the troubles in Northern Ireland (as did both sides). The British Government did some terrible things too (Bloody Sunday, internment, Gilford, Birmingham 6,etc..) but not once did they consider bombing or blowing up towns, cities, schools, hospitals, etc……unlike Israel

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err, yes they did. A hotel in Brighton, the Hilton in Park Lane (which I very narrowly missed back in the 70s) a shopping centre in Manchester.... the town of Eniskillen - the list goes on.
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If Britain were close to getting invaded or regularly got told that they would get wiped off the map, then maybe they'd defend themselves more aggressively.

That's not to say Israel are right. Their government is selfish and only cares about itself/survival in government. I don't think politicians should have the power to command/order for people to get killed.
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Are you talking about Ahmadinejad comment again?

The comment that was proven to be fake and badly translated by pro Israel media?

...apart from Goonerbabe.

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
And to call the event apartheid is silly. Apartheid was a preset idea to oppress and discriminate against people they see as inferior.
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Nelson Mandela who new a thing or two about apartheid himself said that the people of Palestine are under apartheid.
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You seen the letter he wrote to the Israeli PM at the time? Pretty fackin good
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Nope but will look for it

comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
And to call the event apartheid is silly. Apartheid was a preset idea to oppress and discriminate against people they see as inferior.
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Nelson Mandela who new a thing or two about apartheid himself said that the people of Palestine are under apartheid.
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Saying it doesn't make it a fact.. People (politicians mostly) say things to appease the mass, doesn't really mean it's true. Oppression of people doesn't always mean apartheid. Apartheid was a false idea based on racial discrimination..

I am an atheist, my problem with fundamentalism of all kinds is the intolerance that these people have for others because of their faith or gender.

And the problem is simple, two fundamentally opposite views that cannot be solved by bombs but by a change in the bigoted beliefs of fundamentalist Muslims.

It doesn't really matter who started it, or how it came about. Right minded people just want the extremists to pull their necks in and get along.

I am all for people overthrowing repressive dictatorial regimes, but not if that puts fundamentalists in control who want us all to believe in their version of faith and morals and if we don't, then off with our heads.

comment by Goonerbabe (U11922)
posted 17 seconds ago
No ones gonna convince me that Israel surrounded by enemies should defend themselves. We live in a free country with freedom of speech. If you don't like it, go drink a lovely cold acid😎
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No need to get worked up. There's plenty of literature from all four sides of the Anglo-Boer wars. Each claimed self-protection against an aggressor, with the local ethnic groups caught in the middle. Same script, different cast imo.

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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
And to call the event apartheid is silly. Apartheid was a preset idea to oppress and discriminate against people they see as inferior.
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Nelson Mandela who new a thing or two about apartheid himself said that the people of Palestine are under apartheid.
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Saying it doesn't make it a fact.. People (politicians mostly) say things to appease the mass, doesn't really mean it's true. Oppression of people doesn't always mean apartheid. Apartheid was a false idea based on racial discrimination..
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In South Africa it may have been race related but the true meaning is a state being apart. This is what Israel have done. They created the world largest concentration camp in Gaza. The Arabs in Israel are not even 2nd class citizens. They have no rights, they have had there land stolen and they can't do anything about it.

comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fred (U9833)
posted 3 minutes ago
The I R A committed some horrible atrocities during the troubles in Northern Ireland (as did both sides). The British Government did some terrible things too (Bloody Sunday, internment, Gilford, Birmingham 6,etc..) but not once did they consider bombing or blowing up towns, cities, schools, hospitals, etc……unlike Israel

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err, yes they did. A hotel in Brighton, the Hilton in Park Lane (which I very narrowly missed back in the 70s) a shopping centre in Manchester.... the town of Eniskillen - the list goes on.
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If Britain were close to getting invaded or regularly got told that they would get wiped off the map, then maybe they'd defend themselves more aggressively.

That's not to say Israel are right. Their government is selfish and only cares about itself/survival in government. I don't think politicians should have the power to command/order for people to get killed.
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Are you talking about Ahmadinejad comment again?

The comment that was proven to be fake and badly translated by pro Israel media?
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No I watched and listened to Ahmadinejad speak (live) at the UN. He implied that Israel should be wiped of the map. Nothing to do with interpretation.

I mostly listen to Aljazeera these days anyway (who are very biased as well).. They are responsible for the Arab uprising which has led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands..

comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fred (U9833)
posted 3 minutes ago
The I R A committed some horrible atrocities during the troubles in Northern Ireland (as did both sides). The British Government did some terrible things too (Bloody Sunday, internment, Gilford, Birmingham 6,etc..) but not once did they consider bombing or blowing up towns, cities, schools, hospitals, etc……unlike Israel

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err, yes they did. A hotel in Brighton, the Hilton in Park Lane (which I very narrowly missed back in the 70s) a shopping centre in Manchester.... the town of Eniskillen - the list goes on.
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If Britain were close to getting invaded or regularly got told that they would get wiped off the map, then maybe they'd defend themselves more aggressively.

That's not to say Israel are right. Their government is selfish and only cares about itself/survival in government. I don't think politicians should have the power to command/order for people to get killed.
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Are you talking about Ahmadinejad comment again?

The comment that was proven to be fake and badly translated by pro Israel media?
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One of the biggest argument losers that 'quote'

comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 second ago
And thanks to Gove's latest pet project, we'll have such schools for each religion.

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All 'religious' schools should be banned. We need more diversification not segregation. I went to a C of E school in the late 80's, full of pupils from all creed, colours and religions, and religion was never really part of the school day. In fact at the final 'Christmas Nativity' I did, I played Robin Hood!
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So why does it need to be banned then?
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I think he made his point with the 'religious' part in quotes. A bit subtle, but still there.
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I dunno - I still don't get it. He says he wants them banned then goes on to talk about his time at a Church of England school and how positive it was