comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 minutes ago
So why dont you put him in at lb where he played? He isnt better than Zabaleta anyway.
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zabaleta is great.
that will be my team with azpi at lb, but obviously he is a RB.
And he is better than zabs.
We conceded only four more goals than the champions City and nine less than Liverpool in third place. Take away the hammerings and we had a brilliant defensive record.
I just said that because you put him in ahead off Zab in your 2nd comment, and no he really isnt better than Zab. He is a great fullback tho.
Didn't Arsenal beat Chelsea 5-3 recently. Liverpool 4-1? United 4-1? Atletico 4-1? Sunderland beat you 3-0 at Stamford Bridge ffs. I'm sure City put 5 past you at the Bridge not so long ago either
"Ozil!! are you kidding?
alexis has not played a single minute in the premier league
ramsey has had 3/4 of a good season in total for arsenal
theo still doesnt think hes a winger
koscielny is 2nd choice to sakho for france
stop talking up arsenal...you finished 3rd!
regardless of any other liverpool players, you left out the leagues 2nd top scorer...sturridge. why anyone bar aguero gets into the forward positions over him is beyond me."
Leave out world class players such as Ozil, Ramsey and Sanchez. Yet wants people to include Sturridge. Do jog on.
Actually if you take away away the seventeen goals we conceded in three matches, our defensive record was better than Chelsea's. We fell apart in those games. They weren't the result of weak defenders. There is a difference.
Last season Arsenal were built on solid defending. We rarely conceded more than one goal in a game and Szczesny tied with Cech for the golden glove.
Not long until Raheem Messi Sterling is mentioned
"Koscielny is one of the worst cbs in the league and gets covered by the infinitely better mertesacker"
What an embarrassing post from an embarrassing poster. Do give up football.
You had no qualms putting in the oridinary Cahill. But you mock one of the stand out defenders in the league? Mug.
If you take away all the hammering a then Arsenal are good away from home in big games.
comment by 'Bats' (U18355)
posted 34 seconds ago
Didn't Arsenal beat Chelsea 5-3 recently. Liverpool 4-1? United 4-1? Atletico 4-1? Sunderland beat you 3-0 at Stamford Bridge ffs. I'm sure City put 5 past you at the Bridge not so long ago either
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so never a 6? Atletico were the best of the bunch. dont remember a 4-1 to utd either? city have never put 5 past us.what are you talking about. liverpool beat our reserves 4-1 after we just beat them in the fa cup and was going to the CL final.
the sunderland one is the only one i will give ya. And the arsenal one too. but that could of really gone any way.
have you been drinking?
comment by DubbedinEnglish (U19529)
posted 3 minutes ago
"Koscielny is one of the worst cbs in the league and gets covered by the infinitely better mertesacker"
What an embarrassing post from an embarrassing poster. Do give up football.
You had no qualms putting in the oridinary Cahill. But you mock one of the stand out defenders in the league? Mug.
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jesus christ whose this clown? are you actually joking? cahill was arguably the best defender in the PL last year. Did you not watch any games? god theres nothing left for the human race if this guy can breed. what the actual F@ck...what a clown. Cahill was fantastic last year.
And yet you think Koscielny is a poor defender
Nickalopodis is the new site hardman
I thought that was Red KeyboardWarrior?
Agree with DTKF that you can't say " take away those hammerings and we had a good defensive record." Take away all those goals we conceded and we didn't concede many goals - it doesn't work.
However, it seems fairly clear to me that our greatest problem going into those types of matches is tactics and Wenger's inability to set up his team against any side that presses and/or counters well, rather than a problem with personnel.
Take away David Moyes and we are champions.
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nickalopodis is the new site hardman
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why because im in shock at human beings stupidity? bats just made up a load of results which never happened. I told him that. Nothing hard about that .
You guys keeping me entertained though.
Cahill like Terry works well in that backs to walls, anti football that your boy Mourinho loves to play. But similarly to Terry, he'd get ruined playing for any other team. Very average player.
And it's pretty clear you haven't been watching much football either. Koscielny was one of the stand out defenders in the league last year along with Mertesacker. Clueless ain't the word.
comment by Sömeday_693 - Källström will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 2 minutes ago
Agree with DTKF that you can't say " take away those hammerings and we had a good defensive record." Take away all those goals we conceded and we didn't concede many goals - it doesn't work.
However, it seems fairly clear to me that our greatest problem going into those types of matches is tactics and Wenger's inability to set up his team against any side that presses and/or counters well, rather than a problem with personnel.
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My point was that generally speaking Arsenal were very strong defensively over the course of the season with the exception of four games (including Everton). I'm not dismissing them as outliers. I'm dismissing them as representative of the defensive abilities of our players.
comment by DubbedinEnglish (U19529)
posted 30 seconds ago
Cahill like Terry works well in that backs to walls, anti football that your boy Mourinho loves to play. But similarly to Terry, he'd get ruined playing for any other team. Very average player.
And it's pretty clear you haven't been watching much football either. Koscielny was one of the stand out defenders in the league last year along with Mertesacker. Clueless ain't the word.
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backs to the walls? why did we have such a high average possesion percentage last year then? WHen was our backs to the walls against arsenal in a 6-0 hammering? the stuff people say . boy oh boy.
So was terry all of a sudden a load of crap when we scored over a hundred goals a few years back?
maybe its lucky that both terry and cahill play for us then isnt it, rather than get ruined for another team like koscielny obviously does.
The stuff people say to convince themselves. backs to the walls, anti football...6-0...wow
But your defence is being questioned in big games. And it big games it's generally shît. Hence why people don't rate your defence as high as you do.
did you actually just say John terry was an average player? thats a whole new low...speechless.
someone disagrees that players I like are the best, they are so stupid
comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
But your defence is being questioned in big games. And it big games it's generally shît. Hence why people don't rate your defence as high as you do.
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I think the big games issue was a lot of things. Primarily, our lack of a mobile CDM hurt us, with Arteta being unable to effectively shield the defense in those games. Tactically our big mistake was trying to rectify the deficit too quickly and too strongly, becoming far too attacking too early. This led us open to a lot of early goals. After three it begins to become meaningless.
It wasn't our defenders really, but the team and the tactics.
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posted on 13/8/14
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 minutes ago
So why dont you put him in at lb where he played? He isnt better than Zabaleta anyway.
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zabaleta is great.
that will be my team with azpi at lb, but obviously he is a RB.
And he is better than zabs.
posted on 13/8/14
We conceded only four more goals than the champions City and nine less than Liverpool in third place. Take away the hammerings and we had a brilliant defensive record.
posted on 13/8/14
I just said that because you put him in ahead off Zab in your 2nd comment, and no he really isnt better than Zab. He is a great fullback tho.
posted on 13/8/14
Didn't Arsenal beat Chelsea 5-3 recently. Liverpool 4-1? United 4-1? Atletico 4-1? Sunderland beat you 3-0 at Stamford Bridge ffs. I'm sure City put 5 past you at the Bridge not so long ago either
posted on 13/8/14
"Ozil!! are you kidding?
alexis has not played a single minute in the premier league
ramsey has had 3/4 of a good season in total for arsenal
theo still doesnt think hes a winger
koscielny is 2nd choice to sakho for france
stop talking up arsenal...you finished 3rd!
regardless of any other liverpool players, you left out the leagues 2nd top scorer...sturridge. why anyone bar aguero gets into the forward positions over him is beyond me."
Leave out world class players such as Ozil, Ramsey and Sanchez. Yet wants people to include Sturridge. Do jog on.
posted on 13/8/14
Actually if you take away away the seventeen goals we conceded in three matches, our defensive record was better than Chelsea's. We fell apart in those games. They weren't the result of weak defenders. There is a difference.
Last season Arsenal were built on solid defending. We rarely conceded more than one goal in a game and Szczesny tied with Cech for the golden glove.
posted on 13/8/14
Not long until Raheem Messi Sterling is mentioned
posted on 13/8/14
"Koscielny is one of the worst cbs in the league and gets covered by the infinitely better mertesacker"
What an embarrassing post from an embarrassing poster. Do give up football.
You had no qualms putting in the oridinary Cahill. But you mock one of the stand out defenders in the league? Mug.
posted on 13/8/14
If you take away all the hammering a then Arsenal are good away from home in big games.
posted on 13/8/14
comment by 'Bats' (U18355)
posted 34 seconds ago
Didn't Arsenal beat Chelsea 5-3 recently. Liverpool 4-1? United 4-1? Atletico 4-1? Sunderland beat you 3-0 at Stamford Bridge ffs. I'm sure City put 5 past you at the Bridge not so long ago either
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so never a 6? Atletico were the best of the bunch. dont remember a 4-1 to utd either? city have never put 5 past us.what are you talking about. liverpool beat our reserves 4-1 after we just beat them in the fa cup and was going to the CL final.
the sunderland one is the only one i will give ya. And the arsenal one too. but that could of really gone any way.
have you been drinking?
posted on 13/8/14
Arsenal
posted on 13/8/14
comment by DubbedinEnglish (U19529)
posted 3 minutes ago
"Koscielny is one of the worst cbs in the league and gets covered by the infinitely better mertesacker"
What an embarrassing post from an embarrassing poster. Do give up football.
You had no qualms putting in the oridinary Cahill. But you mock one of the stand out defenders in the league? Mug.
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jesus christ whose this clown? are you actually joking? cahill was arguably the best defender in the PL last year. Did you not watch any games? god theres nothing left for the human race if this guy can breed. what the actual F@ck...what a clown. Cahill was fantastic last year.
posted on 13/8/14
And yet you think Koscielny is a poor defender
posted on 13/8/14
Nickalopodis is the new site hardman
posted on 13/8/14
I thought that was Red KeyboardWarrior?
posted on 13/8/14
Agree with DTKF that you can't say " take away those hammerings and we had a good defensive record." Take away all those goals we conceded and we didn't concede many goals - it doesn't work.
However, it seems fairly clear to me that our greatest problem going into those types of matches is tactics and Wenger's inability to set up his team against any side that presses and/or counters well, rather than a problem with personnel.
posted on 13/8/14
Take away David Moyes and we are champions.
posted on 13/8/14
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nickalopodis is the new site hardman
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why because im in shock at human beings stupidity? bats just made up a load of results which never happened. I told him that. Nothing hard about that .
You guys keeping me entertained though.
posted on 13/8/14
Cahill like Terry works well in that backs to walls, anti football that your boy Mourinho loves to play. But similarly to Terry, he'd get ruined playing for any other team. Very average player.
And it's pretty clear you haven't been watching much football either. Koscielny was one of the stand out defenders in the league last year along with Mertesacker. Clueless ain't the word.
posted on 13/8/14
comment by Sömeday_693 - Källström will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 2 minutes ago
Agree with DTKF that you can't say " take away those hammerings and we had a good defensive record." Take away all those goals we conceded and we didn't concede many goals - it doesn't work.
However, it seems fairly clear to me that our greatest problem going into those types of matches is tactics and Wenger's inability to set up his team against any side that presses and/or counters well, rather than a problem with personnel.
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My point was that generally speaking Arsenal were very strong defensively over the course of the season with the exception of four games (including Everton). I'm not dismissing them as outliers. I'm dismissing them as representative of the defensive abilities of our players.
posted on 13/8/14
comment by DubbedinEnglish (U19529)
posted 30 seconds ago
Cahill like Terry works well in that backs to walls, anti football that your boy Mourinho loves to play. But similarly to Terry, he'd get ruined playing for any other team. Very average player.
And it's pretty clear you haven't been watching much football either. Koscielny was one of the stand out defenders in the league last year along with Mertesacker. Clueless ain't the word.
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backs to the walls? why did we have such a high average possesion percentage last year then? WHen was our backs to the walls against arsenal in a 6-0 hammering? the stuff people say . boy oh boy.
So was terry all of a sudden a load of crap when we scored over a hundred goals a few years back?
maybe its lucky that both terry and cahill play for us then isnt it, rather than get ruined for another team like koscielny obviously does.
The stuff people say to convince themselves. backs to the walls, anti football...6-0...wow
posted on 13/8/14
But your defence is being questioned in big games. And it big games it's generally shît. Hence why people don't rate your defence as high as you do.
posted on 13/8/14
did you actually just say John terry was an average player? thats a whole new low...speechless.
posted on 13/8/14
someone disagrees that players I like are the best, they are so stupid
posted on 13/8/14
comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
But your defence is being questioned in big games. And it big games it's generally shît. Hence why people don't rate your defence as high as you do.
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I think the big games issue was a lot of things. Primarily, our lack of a mobile CDM hurt us, with Arteta being unable to effectively shield the defense in those games. Tactically our big mistake was trying to rectify the deficit too quickly and too strongly, becoming far too attacking too early. This led us open to a lot of early goals. After three it begins to become meaningless.
It wasn't our defenders really, but the team and the tactics.
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