Mudd
It isn't unusual to bring your own staff with you when you join another club
I do not believe keeping Phelan would have made a jot of difference.
Rene wasn't sacked and the goal keeping coach change clearly wasn't detrimental
The 'entire' back room staff thing is ridiculously overstated to me personally.
Bale, Ronaldo and Fabregas would be pretty much any manager's targets, only 99% of them realise it's unrealistic.
Macca, not arguing that he was not entitled to bring his own staff. Just saying him wanting to keep things the same then changing the backroom is not consistent with that premise.
I actually thought it showed some balls. The guy just did not have what it took at this level and I'm not sure he will show the players his balls, like LvG surely would have done yesterday
Mudd
Maybe yesterday's loss wasn't such a bad thing if it makes lvg realise players like lingard Blackett fletch etc are not good enough to be starters for United now albeit he clearly fancies fletch making him vice captain
I'm all for giving youth a chance, but in the league cup or fa cup against the lesser sides.
Our PL starting xi should not look anything like what it did yesterday. Even with our injuries
Macca
When you get down to it, as much as we we would love to have local lads and kids in the team. Our squad, player for player should be on par with the Madrid's and Barcelona's of this world and it is time for the club to back up its assertions.
Fletch is finished
Love to know why fellaini came on for Herrera yesterday
Why not kagawa for fletch ffs
Herrera and kagawa or fletch and fellaini?
Maybe I'm missing something
David Moyes is a good manager, but he underestimated the step-up in class from Everton to Manchester United: the fact that he could finish higher with many inferior Everton teams makes me think that the mistake was purely to do with his mentality. If you play at a standard such as Manchester United then you will know that you are a good player and you will want to express that on the pitch, whilst players of that calibre can tolerate defensive football and restricting themselves they need to believe it is for the greater good- and ultimately the job of convincing them lies with the manager and the weight of his personality. José Mourinho can convince nearly any player to adapt to his methods- and those who do not will be sold. But if you are a more reserved personality such as Roy Hodgson or David Moyes then the transition will be difficult as they do not have the ability to convince players to adapt to those methods, for example telling Ferdinand how Jagielka would defend is exactly the case; those players will not be convinced by a manager who operates this way at a big club.
Attack minded managers from mid-table teams have a higher chance of making the transition to a big club as they allow the top players to express themselves and thus keep them on their side from the beginning: it's why Liverpool and Everton won by gambling on two mid-table managers. That's what those appointments were, as neither really had such an impressive track record to get those jobs with just one trophy between them.
David Moyes is a good manager and will do a great job for a mid-table club, but the way he manages is not very adaptable to a bigger club and ultimately the humiliation at Manchester United will have undermined him further in the eyes of any top players who are working with him.
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David Moyes breaks his silence
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posted on 17/8/14
Mudd
It isn't unusual to bring your own staff with you when you join another club
I do not believe keeping Phelan would have made a jot of difference.
Rene wasn't sacked and the goal keeping coach change clearly wasn't detrimental
The 'entire' back room staff thing is ridiculously overstated to me personally.
posted on 17/8/14
Bale, Ronaldo and Fabregas would be pretty much any manager's targets, only 99% of them realise it's unrealistic.
posted on 17/8/14
Macca, not arguing that he was not entitled to bring his own staff. Just saying him wanting to keep things the same then changing the backroom is not consistent with that premise.
I actually thought it showed some balls. The guy just did not have what it took at this level and I'm not sure he will show the players his balls, like LvG surely would have done yesterday
posted on 17/8/14
Mudd
Maybe yesterday's loss wasn't such a bad thing if it makes lvg realise players like lingard Blackett fletch etc are not good enough to be starters for United now albeit he clearly fancies fletch making him vice captain
I'm all for giving youth a chance, but in the league cup or fa cup against the lesser sides.
Our PL starting xi should not look anything like what it did yesterday. Even with our injuries
posted on 17/8/14
Macca
When you get down to it, as much as we we would love to have local lads and kids in the team. Our squad, player for player should be on par with the Madrid's and Barcelona's of this world and it is time for the club to back up its assertions.
Fletch is finished
posted on 17/8/14
Love to know why fellaini came on for Herrera yesterday
Why not kagawa for fletch ffs
Herrera and kagawa or fletch and fellaini?
Maybe I'm missing something
posted on 17/8/14
Still a mystery to me
posted on 17/8/14
David Moyes is a good manager, but he underestimated the step-up in class from Everton to Manchester United: the fact that he could finish higher with many inferior Everton teams makes me think that the mistake was purely to do with his mentality. If you play at a standard such as Manchester United then you will know that you are a good player and you will want to express that on the pitch, whilst players of that calibre can tolerate defensive football and restricting themselves they need to believe it is for the greater good- and ultimately the job of convincing them lies with the manager and the weight of his personality. José Mourinho can convince nearly any player to adapt to his methods- and those who do not will be sold. But if you are a more reserved personality such as Roy Hodgson or David Moyes then the transition will be difficult as they do not have the ability to convince players to adapt to those methods, for example telling Ferdinand how Jagielka would defend is exactly the case; those players will not be convinced by a manager who operates this way at a big club.
Attack minded managers from mid-table teams have a higher chance of making the transition to a big club as they allow the top players to express themselves and thus keep them on their side from the beginning: it's why Liverpool and Everton won by gambling on two mid-table managers. That's what those appointments were, as neither really had such an impressive track record to get those jobs with just one trophy between them.
David Moyes is a good manager and will do a great job for a mid-table club, but the way he manages is not very adaptable to a bigger club and ultimately the humiliation at Manchester United will have undermined him further in the eyes of any top players who are working with him.
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