waassssssaa matter have i hurt your delicate little ego by calling you a coward when you come on the forum and hurl unprovoked insults at me -

when you hurl unprovoked insults at people who have done nothing to you , you deserve to be called a coward

Sorry sensei. I wait to be enlightened

Martial, I'm not sure if you realise this because English does not appear to be your first language but you post like an ásshole on here.

Not sure if its a cultural thing but it gets people's backs up especially when you are wrong most of the time

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 11 minutes ago
Martial, I'm not sure if you realise this because English does not appear to be your first language but you post like an ásshole on here.

Not sure if its a cultural thing but it gets people's backs up especially when you are wrong most of the time
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what you mean to say is you dont agree with some of my harmless opinions and i very often prove you wrong when you try and disagree with me as i did last night and it irritates the fluck out of you -

i also dont lose my dignity and self esteem by coming on here and gossiping about you or hurling unprovoked insults at you as you do with me because you cant prove me wrong

What proof martial, how have u proven anything

For someone into martial arts which is all about self awareness, u dont seem to have thr slightest idea how u come across. U may be a nice bloke, but u come across as an odious self loving ignorant moron. Have a look at urself mate. Ur at best irritating. I will say it again. Some of ur opinions could be legitimate, but how uve got to that opinion is nearly always wrong. Plus u dismiss everybody else with there trivial opinion gathering, when urs carries the same amount of credence

No, what I mean to say is that you post like an a7hole.

You do not make coherent, reasonable or sensible arguments and for some reason believe your often wrongly held opinions are facts. When exposed, rather than say, my bad, I was wrong, you turn debates into infantile ramblings and laughable attempts at one up manship.

All it does is make you appear imbecilic or troll like. Both of which are not positive. To each his own but I must be honest, you add nothing positive to this forum and for some reason you seem to revel in it. This of course highlights a negative attitde and a deire to be the centre of attention even when you are wrong. Which truth be told is pathetic and pitiful

Martial for you to irritate me, I would have to take youu seriously. I do not, like I've said before you are the forum jester.

On just about every thread you are mocked directly or indirectly and it goes over your head.

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 2 minutes ago
For someone into martial arts which is all about self awareness, u dont seem to have thr slightest idea how u come across. U may be a nice bloke, but u come across as an odious self loving ignorant moron. Have a look at urself mate. Ur at best irritating. I will say it again. Some of ur opinions could be legitimate, but how uve got to that opinion is nearly always wrong. Plus u dismiss everybody else with there trivial opinion gathering, when urs carries the same amount of credence
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again you resort to unprovoked insults -- something that i never have and never will hurl at any other member here because i have to much self esteem to do it -

normal and rationale behavior on a forum of this type is to debate any point that you dont agree with from any other forum member that you think is wrong and that is exactly what i do in my usual calm , commonsense ,and logical manner with the other forum members on here --

instead of getting annoyed at my harmless opinions that i am fully entitled to give why dont you try debating any point of mine you dont agree with together instead of losing your self esteem and just hurling unprovoked insults at people because you dont agree with there opinions

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
No, what I mean to say is that you post like an a7hole.

You do not make coherent, reasonable or sensible arguments and for some reason believe your often wrongly held opinions are facts. When exposed, rather than say, my bad, I was wrong, you turn debates into infantile ramblings and laughable attempts at one up manship.

All it does is make you appear imbecilic or troll like. Both of which are not positive. To each his own but I must be honest, you add nothing positive to this forum and for some reason you seem to revel in it. This of course highlights a negative attitde and a deire to be the centre of attention even when you are wrong. Which truth be told is pathetic and pitiful
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now now manx -- just because you dont agree with some of my opinions does not make me wrong and you right ,it is up to you to prove your point if you think i am incorrect about certain points
------------- which as yet you have been unable to do when we have disagreed about certain matters and very often you change the subject when i am proving you wrong as i did last night -

now come on manx i contribute a fair bit to this forum as you well know with my thought provoking and humorous topics and as you also know god has seen fit to bless me with this razor sharp wit that very often adds humour to the forum -
----------- even if we dont agree about certain things which obviously irritates you, infantile insults on your part is not the way to healthy F1 related debates -
---------- lets at least make an effort to get along

Ok then martial. Lets debate, from now

Is monaco a low or high downforce track?

I present my debate first with an understanding of downforce. Downforce is the aerodynamic affect of moving air flowing over a surface, to either pull or push an object in a downwards direction.

In formula 1, a car generates downforce through the use of wings and aerofoils plus ground affect. The angle of attack of the wings etc determines the amount of downforce the car generates. Greater levels of downforce allow for quicker cornering speeds due to the increased level of grip, however at the sacrifice of top speed. Conversely lower downforve increases top speed to the sacrifice of cornering speed.

Monaco, is the shortest and most twisty track on the f1 calendar. So short that an f1 car cannot reach its maximum potential speed. Therfore, f1 teams set there car up to have maximum cornering speed. This is different to a track such as monza, where straight line speed is more important. Tracks such as silverstone do require a balance of the 2.

Love to hear ur thoughts

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ok then martial. Lets debate, from now

Is monaco a low or high downforce track?

I present my debate first with an understanding of downforce. Downforce is the aerodynamic affect of moving air flowing over a surface, to either pull or push an object in a downwards direction.

In formula 1, a car generates downforce through the use of wings and aerofoils plus ground affect. The angle of attack of the wings etc determines the amount of downforce the car generates. Greater levels of downforce allow for quicker cornering speeds due to the increased level of grip, however at the sacrifice of top speed. Conversely lower downforve increases top speed to the sacrifice of cornering speed.

Monaco, is the shortest and most twisty track on the f1 calendar. So short that an f1 car cannot reach its maximum potential speed. Therfore, f1 teams set there car up to have maximum cornering speed. This is different to a track such as monza, where straight line speed is more important. Tracks such as silverstone do require a balance of the 2.

Love to hear ur thoughts
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this is not really a debate -- you have just googled downforce and copied what you have just googled -
-------- what exactly do you want me to add that is not already there as we all know what downforce is ?

Is monaco a low or high downforce track. What do u think. I think high personally.

Ps. Im quite flattered.u thought i googled and copied that hahah.

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 38 seconds ago
Is monaco a low or high downforce track. What do u think. I think high personally.

Ps. Im quite flattered.u thought i googled and copied that hahah.


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we both know what kind of downforce track monaco is because we can both google it --

you have picked the wrong time of night to get any meaningful conversation out of me as my coffin beckons ,
------ see you tomorrow night if you are on the forum --

Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha. Scared to debate with me martial, as u know i will wipe the floor with u.

This is getting easier! Haha

High downforce

Well done sir

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 5 minutes ago
Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha. Scared to debate with me martial, as u know i will wipe the floor with u.

This is getting easier! Haha
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fluck me your poor little ego really has taken a battering if you are this desperate to get one over on me -
----- and there was me trying to treat you like an adult as well

Now, now martial, why do you always assume people are upset with you. I'm not, I'm just highlighting that the way you put forward your views can easily be misconstrued.

I do not come here to beat people up in debate but to share views I back up with facts, not feelings or assumptions or factless opinions or even hate fileld opinions.

I must also stress again that I do not need to prove you wrong because more often than not you do that all by yourself.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 hours, 5 minutes ago
Now, now martial, why do you always assume people are upset with you. I'm not, I'm just highlighting that the way you put forward your views can easily be misconstrued.

I do not come here to beat people up in debate but to share views I back up with facts, not feelings or assumptions or factless opinions or even hate fileld opinions.

I must also stress again that I do not need to prove you wrong because more often than not you do that all by yourself.
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yeh we saw that the other night manx with your little fairy stories about alonso and massa secret agendas and senna and massa rubbish that i corrected you about both times -
--------- hence you changing the subject with a little verse from a pop song

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 1 day, 10 hours ago
comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 2 minutes ago
For someone into martial arts which is all about self awareness, u dont seem to have thr slightest idea how u come across. U may be a nice bloke, but u come across as an odious self loving ignorant moron. Have a look at urself mate. Ur at best irritating. I will say it again. Some of ur opinions could be legitimate, but how uve got to that opinion is nearly always wrong. Plus u dismiss everybody else with there trivial opinion gathering, when urs carries the same amount of credence
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again you resort to unprovoked insults -- something that i never have and never will hurl at any other member here because i have to much self esteem to do it -

normal and rationale behavior on a forum of this type is to debate any point that you dont agree with from any other forum member that you think is wrong and that is exactly what i do in my usual calm , commonsense ,and logical manner with the other forum members on here --

instead of getting annoyed at my harmless opinions that i am fully entitled to give why dont you try debating any point of mine you dont agree with together instead of losing your self esteem and just hurling unprovoked insults at people because you dont agree with there opinions



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But you don't just debate opinions, you try and debate facts.

But you don't just debate opinions, you try and debate facts.
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Exactly, trying to dismiss facts with opinions is madness

We cant all be wrong martial

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 9 hours, 26 minutes ago
We cant all be wrong martial
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very true bw --- we cant all be wrong can we