always a worry until the positive result is in...
football can spring up some shocks, and i suppose thats the worry. Arsenal should get by with relative ease over two legs even if they struggled tonight.
No. At the end of the day worst case scenario is we lose tonight and we have to do it the hard way at the Emirates. We'll win by 2/3 goals tonight.
That Udinese away game was a tough one. Szczesny's save from Di Natale
Besiktas should be tougher than Fenerbache were last season, but we should still come through relatively comfortably. No excuses really.
Yeah I am worried just because so much rides on these games and I hate them. Perversely, the fact that our summer has gone better than usual and we're in a decent place ahead of this game makes me feel worse about it for some reason!
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I remember Udinese battered us for long periods and Di Natale was a nightmare. We should win, but far bigger shocks have happened than Besiktas beating us.
And I don't see what Besikta's loss many years ago has to do with tonight.
Parlayed £10 on you guys to win -1 and Napoli to avoid defeat at 3-1 so you Gooners better not let me down like Chelsea did last night
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comment by Isle of Manc - Year of the Januzaj (U18323)
posted 1 minute ago
Parlayed £10 on you guys to win -1 and Napoli to avoid defeat at 3-1 so you Gooners better not let me down like Chelsea did last night
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It's a win win for you either way. Either you are quids in, or Arsenal go out
Yeah I am worried just because so much rides on these games and I hate them. Perversely, the fact that our summer has gone better than usual and we're in a decent place ahead of this game makes me feel worse about it for some reason!
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same here.
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That Udinese tie was a nightmare. They were in the middle of Wenger's darkest period in charge.
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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Agree completely.
But it would be better if we qualified for the group stage so we earn some extra cash but finish bottom of the group so no Europa and then just focus on the Prem
Think Rosicky will play.
Arteta Ramsey
Alexis Rosicky Cazorla
Giroud
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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if we drop into the europa league our season is finished!!
we will never be able to win the league playing thurs/sun/thurs/sun
comment by Rusky (U15847)
posted 18 minutes ago
That Udinese tie was a nightmare. They were in the middle of Wenger's darkest period in charge.
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Massive character building win for the youngsters who played though
Ches with the pen save, Walcott's goal and alround performance... One of the first times Jenks looked solid too
comment by returnofDaSilvaSurfer (U12750)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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if we drop into the europa league our season is finished!!
we will never be able to win the league playing thurs/sun/thurs/sun
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We can play the League cup team in it. Frankly it will improve Akpom etc.
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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Agree completely.
But it would be better if we qualified for the group stage so we earn some extra cash but finish bottom of the group so no Europa and then just focus on the Prem
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True. But the money issue doesn't make me nervous anymore. And lets face it. I expect us to qualify pretty easily.
If we lose £20m by not qualifying through the group, our financial strength disappears. That's £20m less we have to spend.
I cannot understand people who make comments about not wanting to progress. It's a cash cow and the world's best club competition.
Jenius, I doubt we'll sign a top world class player if we don't get in the CL which thus reduces the League chances.
I think we need to finish top of the group if we're going to do anything in the CL.
Winning the Champions League (if you win every group game and come through the play offs) is worth 39.5m euros just in prize money. That's not to mention the television money, which is worth a lot on its own. In 12/13 Juventus made just under 45m euros just from the television money alone and they only reached the quarters.
Then there's the sponsorships and boost to the global brand and the worth of that is also very high, though harder to quantify.
The Champions League is how you make money. It's not worth not being in it for the sake of league success.
Being in, and winning the Champions League is worth nearly as much (£10m under from Eufa, but again the outside sponsorships etc) as selling a Bale or Ronaldo, to put it into perspective.
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 14 minutes ago
Jenius, I doubt we'll sign a top world class player if we don't get in the CL which thus reduces the League chances.
I think we need to finish top of the group if we're going to do anything in the CL.
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The fear I have is he isn't going to do that anyway.
Cavani's availability is questionable because of Ibra's injury. And is Wenger going to spend £51m on him. Not so sure unless his eyes have been opened with Giroud.
The others on the market, Balotelli, Bony, Benteke, Etoo etc are all better than Giroud but we really don't need to be qualifying for CL. None of them cost that much.
The only one I think who is dependant on CL slightly is Carvalho. But those 3rd party negotiations take ages and I don't think we have been active in that direction or we would have heard abt it.
Khedira? €10m? No need for CL there either.
I think we will qualify anyway.
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posted on 19/8/14
always a worry until the positive result is in...
football can spring up some shocks, and i suppose thats the worry. Arsenal should get by with relative ease over two legs even if they struggled tonight.
posted on 19/8/14
No. At the end of the day worst case scenario is we lose tonight and we have to do it the hard way at the Emirates. We'll win by 2/3 goals tonight.
posted on 19/8/14
That Udinese away game was a tough one. Szczesny's save from Di Natale
Besiktas should be tougher than Fenerbache were last season, but we should still come through relatively comfortably. No excuses really.
posted on 19/8/14
Yeah I am worried just because so much rides on these games and I hate them. Perversely, the fact that our summer has gone better than usual and we're in a decent place ahead of this game makes me feel worse about it for some reason!
posted on 19/8/14
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posted on 19/8/14
I remember Udinese battered us for long periods and Di Natale was a nightmare. We should win, but far bigger shocks have happened than Besiktas beating us.
posted on 19/8/14
And I don't see what Besikta's loss many years ago has to do with tonight.
posted on 19/8/14
Parlayed £10 on you guys to win -1 and Napoli to avoid defeat at 3-1 so you Gooners better not let me down like Chelsea did last night
posted on 19/8/14
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posted on 19/8/14
comment by Isle of Manc - Year of the Januzaj (U18323)
posted 1 minute ago
Parlayed £10 on you guys to win -1 and Napoli to avoid defeat at 3-1 so you Gooners better not let me down like Chelsea did last night
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It's a win win for you either way. Either you are quids in, or Arsenal go out
posted on 19/8/14
Yeah I am worried just because so much rides on these games and I hate them. Perversely, the fact that our summer has gone better than usual and we're in a decent place ahead of this game makes me feel worse about it for some reason!
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same here.
posted on 19/8/14
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posted on 19/8/14
That Udinese tie was a nightmare. They were in the middle of Wenger's darkest period in charge.
posted on 19/8/14
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
posted on 19/8/14
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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Agree completely.
But it would be better if we qualified for the group stage so we earn some extra cash but finish bottom of the group so no Europa and then just focus on the Prem
posted on 19/8/14
Think Rosicky will play.
Arteta Ramsey
Alexis Rosicky Cazorla
Giroud
posted on 19/8/14
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
__________________________________________
if we drop into the europa league our season is finished!!
we will never be able to win the league playing thurs/sun/thurs/sun
posted on 19/8/14
comment by Rusky (U15847)
posted 18 minutes ago
That Udinese tie was a nightmare. They were in the middle of Wenger's darkest period in charge.
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Massive character building win for the youngsters who played though
Ches with the pen save, Walcott's goal and alround performance... One of the first times Jenks looked solid too
posted on 19/8/14
comment by returnofDaSilvaSurfer (U12750)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
__________________________________________
if we drop into the europa league our season is finished!!
we will never be able to win the league playing thurs/sun/thurs/sun
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We can play the League cup team in it. Frankly it will improve Akpom etc.
posted on 19/8/14
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not worried. Not much rides on the CL. Frankly we will have a better chance of winning the league if we are not in it. We don't have the squad to do anything in the CL.
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Agree completely.
But it would be better if we qualified for the group stage so we earn some extra cash but finish bottom of the group so no Europa and then just focus on the Prem
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True. But the money issue doesn't make me nervous anymore. And lets face it. I expect us to qualify pretty easily.
posted on 19/8/14
If we lose £20m by not qualifying through the group, our financial strength disappears. That's £20m less we have to spend.
I cannot understand people who make comments about not wanting to progress. It's a cash cow and the world's best club competition.
posted on 19/8/14
Jenius, I doubt we'll sign a top world class player if we don't get in the CL which thus reduces the League chances.
I think we need to finish top of the group if we're going to do anything in the CL.
posted on 19/8/14
Winning the Champions League (if you win every group game and come through the play offs) is worth 39.5m euros just in prize money. That's not to mention the television money, which is worth a lot on its own. In 12/13 Juventus made just under 45m euros just from the television money alone and they only reached the quarters.
Then there's the sponsorships and boost to the global brand and the worth of that is also very high, though harder to quantify.
The Champions League is how you make money. It's not worth not being in it for the sake of league success.
posted on 19/8/14
Being in, and winning the Champions League is worth nearly as much (£10m under from Eufa, but again the outside sponsorships etc) as selling a Bale or Ronaldo, to put it into perspective.
posted on 19/8/14
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 14 minutes ago
Jenius, I doubt we'll sign a top world class player if we don't get in the CL which thus reduces the League chances.
I think we need to finish top of the group if we're going to do anything in the CL.
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The fear I have is he isn't going to do that anyway.
Cavani's availability is questionable because of Ibra's injury. And is Wenger going to spend £51m on him. Not so sure unless his eyes have been opened with Giroud.
The others on the market, Balotelli, Bony, Benteke, Etoo etc are all better than Giroud but we really don't need to be qualifying for CL. None of them cost that much.
The only one I think who is dependant on CL slightly is Carvalho. But those 3rd party negotiations take ages and I don't think we have been active in that direction or we would have heard abt it.
Khedira? €10m? No need for CL there either.
I think we will qualify anyway.
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