I can't believe people have already forgotten how good he was against Besiktas. The talent is clearly there he just needs to add consistency. Only a complete idiot would sell a young determined England international who came through their youth ranks to a rival.
There are countless players who like world beaters when they are younger and then subsequently descend into mediocrity a few seasons later
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And then there are those who go on to prove themselves. Wilshere is at a cross-roads at the moment, it's yet to be seen whether he'll be able to overcome his injury problems. But he's still young, it isn't fair to write him off now. But would I take him based on his potential? Yes, definitely.
I also think that people sometimes people just decide that Wilshere has played poorly without actually watching him.
Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
Wilshere will be In PFA team of the year this season.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 seconds ago
There are countless players who like world beaters when they are younger and then subsequently descend into mediocrity a few seasons later
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And then there are those who go on to prove themselves.
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Very few actually go on to become true world class players
He was one of England's better players today. Can everyone just stop talking about him all the time ffs, you're all facking obsessed.
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Exactly. Ramsey had score a goal every other game for a season until people stopped criticising him
DaStuDogg (U9291) Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
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If the ref gave the penalty and add the one on one miss by Wilshere Arsenal could have been out the champions league you wouldn't have been saying that. Wilshere came out and said he clipped the Besiktas player in the box.
comment by Arsene Wengers Wife. (U5865)
posted 4 minutes ago
DaStuDogg (U9291)
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Exactly. Ramsey had score a goal every other game for a season until people stopped criticising him
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So true Once someone has formed an opinion, it takes a huge amount for them to change it.
Wilshere's been played out of position a lot in the last season or two, but generally, when he's played in his favoured position, he's looked like one of our best players.
exactly.
wilshere was good today. Not his fault most of his team mates were woeful.
People need to come to terms with this.
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wilshere's been written off too quickly. He has immense talent, you can't have watched his breakthrough season and tell me that he dosent. At the moment he's going through a spell of bad form and injuries that young players do. I'd still take him though.
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It's a shame that it takes a United fan to stick up for an Arsenal player over our own fans.
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
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You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
comment by Hafi's Man Utd Red Devils 14/15 PL Champions&Treble +The Posh PUFC 14/15 Promotion. Not Arrogant Just Better! (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
DaStuDogg (U9291) Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
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If the ref gave the penalty and add the one on one miss by Wilshere Arsenal could have been out the champions league you wouldn't have been saying that. Wilshere came out and said he clipped the Besiktas player in the box.
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It's a fair point, and had that been the case, people might have looked back at his performance as a whole very differently. But when analysing the talent that Wilshere possesses, that poor moment shouldn't detract from the technical and tactical skill Wilshere displayed that match.
People have been talking as if Wilshere has 'lost it', and I see the word 'average' bandied about far too often. He may still have the occasional rush of blood to the head moment - like that penalty incident - but otherwise, I still maintain that he is consistently one of our best performers when played in the midfield role. His dribbling, passing, and his ability to retain possession in tight spaces is still superb, and I genuinely can't understand how people can talk down his ability so much.
As I say, he needs to sort out his temperament a bit, and there are a few others flaws that need ironing out, but technically and tactically, he is still an exceptional talent, IMO.
comment by 🍭 Maurice Di Moss 🍏 "did you see that ludicrous display last night?" (U11867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
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You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
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You are already our feeder club. Nothing to do with my wants.
Most talented England midfielder post 2000 bar Lampard, Gerrard and Beckham
Jack is more talented than all of those 3. Only Scholes comes close.
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 🍭 Maurice Di Moss 🍏 "did you see that ludicrous display last night?" (U11867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
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You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
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You are already our feeder club. Nothing to do with my wants.
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Scholes was a truly great player, even towards the end he was critical. 2 seasons ago every time Utd were struggling (and they struggled a lot earlier in the season) Fergie brought on Scholes and he sorted out.
Scholes is the reason Utd won the league because he kept getting Utd over the line in critical games and their confidence grew as a result.
Scholes was pretty average in his last season, to be fair. He was injured a lot and didn't play that much.
Gerrard is one hundred times the player Wilshere will ever be.
Wilshere is actually the only Englishman currently that can control a game.
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posted on 3/9/14
I can't believe people have already forgotten how good he was against Besiktas. The talent is clearly there he just needs to add consistency. Only a complete idiot would sell a young determined England international who came through their youth ranks to a rival.
posted on 3/9/14
There are countless players who like world beaters when they are younger and then subsequently descend into mediocrity a few seasons later
--------------
And then there are those who go on to prove themselves. Wilshere is at a cross-roads at the moment, it's yet to be seen whether he'll be able to overcome his injury problems. But he's still young, it isn't fair to write him off now. But would I take him based on his potential? Yes, definitely.
posted on 3/9/14
I also think that people sometimes people just decide that Wilshere has played poorly without actually watching him.
Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
posted on 3/9/14
Wilshere will be In PFA team of the year this season.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 seconds ago
There are countless players who like world beaters when they are younger and then subsequently descend into mediocrity a few seasons later
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And then there are those who go on to prove themselves.
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Very few actually go on to become true world class players
posted on 3/9/14
He was one of England's better players today. Can everyone just stop talking about him all the time ffs, you're all facking obsessed.
posted on 3/9/14
DaStuDogg (U9291)
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Exactly. Ramsey had score a goal every other game for a season until people stopped criticising him
posted on 3/9/14
DaStuDogg (U9291) Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
..................................
If the ref gave the penalty and add the one on one miss by Wilshere Arsenal could have been out the champions league you wouldn't have been saying that. Wilshere came out and said he clipped the Besiktas player in the box.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Arsene Wengers Wife. (U5865)
posted 4 minutes ago
DaStuDogg (U9291)
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Exactly. Ramsey had score a goal every other game for a season until people stopped criticising him
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So true Once someone has formed an opinion, it takes a huge amount for them to change it.
Wilshere's been played out of position a lot in the last season or two, but generally, when he's played in his favoured position, he's looked like one of our best players.
posted on 3/9/14
exactly.
wilshere was good today. Not his fault most of his team mates were woeful.
People need to come to terms with this.
posted on 3/9/14
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wilshere's been written off too quickly. He has immense talent, you can't have watched his breakthrough season and tell me that he dosent. At the moment he's going through a spell of bad form and injuries that young players do. I'd still take him though.
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It's a shame that it takes a United fan to stick up for an Arsenal player over our own fans.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
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You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Hafi's Man Utd Red Devils 14/15 PL Champions&Treble +The Posh PUFC 14/15 Promotion. Not Arrogant Just Better! (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
DaStuDogg (U9291) Comfortably our best player against Besiktas, and I was still seeing people on here criticising him.
..................................
If the ref gave the penalty and add the one on one miss by Wilshere Arsenal could have been out the champions league you wouldn't have been saying that. Wilshere came out and said he clipped the Besiktas player in the box.
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It's a fair point, and had that been the case, people might have looked back at his performance as a whole very differently. But when analysing the talent that Wilshere possesses, that poor moment shouldn't detract from the technical and tactical skill Wilshere displayed that match.
People have been talking as if Wilshere has 'lost it', and I see the word 'average' bandied about far too often. He may still have the occasional rush of blood to the head moment - like that penalty incident - but otherwise, I still maintain that he is consistently one of our best performers when played in the midfield role. His dribbling, passing, and his ability to retain possession in tight spaces is still superb, and I genuinely can't understand how people can talk down his ability so much.
As I say, he needs to sort out his temperament a bit, and there are a few others flaws that need ironing out, but technically and tactically, he is still an exceptional talent, IMO.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by 🍭 Maurice Di Moss 🍏 "did you see that ludicrous display last night?" (U11867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
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You are already our feeder club. Nothing to do with my wants.
posted on 3/9/14
Most talented England midfielder post 2000 bar Lampard, Gerrard and Beckham
posted on 3/9/14
Jack is more talented than all of those 3. Only Scholes comes close.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 🍭 Maurice Di Moss 🍏 "did you see that ludicrous display last night?" (U11867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 'Bats' - Dat Guy (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Absolutely not. United have the worst midfield of all time, Jack would improve it considerably. Also throw in the fact they pay way over the going rate we should be accepting no less than £50M for them.
Ideally, as United are now our feeder club, I would send Jack there on loan for a season, he would play every week in his best position and would improve immeasurably.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You sign Uniteds 5th choice striker and want United to be a feeder club
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You are already our feeder club. Nothing to do with my wants.
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posted on 3/9/14
Wilshere
posted on 3/9/14
Scholes was a truly great player, even towards the end he was critical. 2 seasons ago every time Utd were struggling (and they struggled a lot earlier in the season) Fergie brought on Scholes and he sorted out.
Scholes is the reason Utd won the league because he kept getting Utd over the line in critical games and their confidence grew as a result.
posted on 3/9/14
Bats
posted on 3/9/14
Scholes was pretty average in his last season, to be fair. He was injured a lot and didn't play that much.
posted on 3/9/14
Gerrard is one hundred times the player Wilshere will ever be.
posted on 3/9/14
hahahahahahahahahaha no
posted on 3/9/14
Wilshere is actually the only Englishman currently that can control a game.
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