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posted on 4/9/14

Let's be honest, this is the key reason why you are now happy with the signing:

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

If you had bothered to watch him previously and not listen to the rubbish spouted by his clubs rival fans you'd have realised he has always has potential and some great attributes.

He just needs game time in his preferred position, I've no doubt he will prove a good signing for you.

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Busbybabes (U9083)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's be honest, this is the key reason why you are now happy with the signing:

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

If you had bothered to watch him previously and not listen to the rubbish spouted by his clubs rival fans you'd have realised he has always has potential and some great attributes.

He just needs game time in his preferred position, I've no doubt he will prove a good signing for you.
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The point of my article is not his cameo yesterday but why signing him makes sense and is a very low risk signing for us

posted on 4/9/14

He wasn't any different last night too what he's been when you've called him shìte in the past

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Busbybabes (U9083)
posted 7 minutes ago
Let's be honest, this is the key reason why you are now happy with the signing:

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

If you had bothered to watch him previously and not listen to the rubbish spouted by his clubs rival fans you'd have realised he has always has potential and some great attributes.

He just needs game time in his preferred position, I've no doubt he will prove a good signing for you.
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It's almost as if football fans view their own players favourably and rival teams' players in an overly negative way

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Gunning from Sparkhill (U18998)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Busbybabes (U9083)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's be honest, this is the key reason why you are now happy with the signing:

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

If you had bothered to watch him previously and not listen to the rubbish spouted by his clubs rival fans you'd have realised he has always has potential and some great attributes.

He just needs game time in his preferred position, I've no doubt he will prove a good signing for you.
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The point of my article is not his cameo yesterday but why signing him makes sense and is a very low risk signing for us
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Well it's a strange enlightenment considering you've always called his Welshít.

posted on 4/9/14

23mil, we overpayed by like 10mil

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Busbybabes (U9083)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gunning from Sparkhill (U18998)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Busbybabes (U9083)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's be honest, this is the key reason why you are now happy with the signing:

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

If you had bothered to watch him previously and not listen to the rubbish spouted by his clubs rival fans you'd have realised he has always has potential and some great attributes.

He just needs game time in his preferred position, I've no doubt he will prove a good signing for you.
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The point of my article is not his cameo yesterday but why signing him makes sense and is a very low risk signing for us
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Well it's a strange enlightenment considering you've always called his Welshít.
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When did I ever call him Welshi1t???

In fact I've never commented about him.

posted on 4/9/14

"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

He always did. Funny how perceptions change when looking through different specs eh?

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Robben van Persie #20 - Rolls Reus - Hipster #2 (U1145)
posted 39 seconds ago
"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

He always did. Funny how perceptions change when looking through different specs eh?
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100% of Utd fans rated and wanted RvP didn't they

posted on 4/9/14

It's almost as if football fans view their own players favourably and rival teams' players in an overly negative way

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It's fascinating to watch the thought processes here. It is not often that you get the chance to witness cognitive dissonance in motion. What we see in the OP is the inevitable transitional phase between "he's a donkey!" and "he's class!".

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 seconds ago
It's almost as if football fans view their own players favourably and rival teams' players in an overly negative way

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It's fascinating to watch the thought processes here. It is not often that you get the chance to witness cognitive dissonance in motion. What we see in the OP is the inevitable transitional phase between "he's a donkey!" and "he's class!".
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Honestly i think people take football too seriously sometimes

OF COURSE we're going to rate Welbeck higher now than when he was at Utd. And if it winds Utd fans up then all the better.

Fack me we've got some catching up to do over the whole RvP thing (he's always been terrible by the way).

'Everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife at home'

posted on 4/9/14

Who the fúck calls him Wellshít, that is just cringeworthy. He is low risk because he is young and English, with the inflation in the market he could flop and we could still probably make a profit on him. But he will never be as good as Sturridge and the 'Fergie Factor' means shít, in fact half the reason United are a midtable club now is because of all the clowns he spent millions on who don't belong at a club of their stature.

posted on 4/9/14

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben van Persie #20 - Rolls Reus - Hipster #2(U1145)
posted 39 seconds ago
"He came on yesterday and looked decent"

He always did. Funny how perceptions change when looking through different specs eh?
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100% of Utd fans rated and wanted RvP didn't they
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I didn't want him, and I would still rather we hadn't bought him. It was a vanity purchase by SAF to ensure he retired on a title win. Would have much more satisfaction seeing Rooney and Welbeck continue to develop a partnership that started so well in 2011-12. Everyone loves a strike partnership and with RvP you don't get one. We have just lost a young, talented, local player for 2 years of RvP.

posted on 4/9/14

Honestly the only reason we Arsenal fans are happy about Welbeck is simpey cos hes better than what we have.

Utd were happy to sell cos they have better.
If we had a better strike force we wouldn't ever consider Welbeck.

But as the saying goes beggars cant be choosers

And also we are hoping that Welbeck improves, he's young, hard working, and has all the right attributes, so if Arsene works his magic like hes done on numerous other players, he could be turn out to be a great signing

And like the OP says if it doesnt work out, we'll still recoup some of the money if we decide to move him on.

posted on 4/9/14

"half the reason United are a midtable club now is because of all the clowns he spent millions on who don't belong at a club of their stature."

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Robben van Persie #20 - Rolls Reus - Hipster #2 (U1145)
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100% of Utd fans rated and wanted RvP didn't they
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I didn't want him, and I would still rather we hadn't bought him. It was a vanity purchase by SAF to ensure he retired on a title win. Would have much more satisfaction seeing Rooney and Welbeck continue to develop a partnership that started so well in 2011-12. Everyone loves a strike partnership and with RvP you don't get one. We have just lost a young, talented, local player for 2 years of RvP.
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Read this post, saw your username and just had to

The irony

posted on 4/9/14

I liken the Welbeck transfer to Arsenal selling Jack to Chelsea or City, he never fufilled his potential but is young enough to shine at a new club....

posted on 4/9/14

comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robben van Persie #20 - Rolls Reus - Hipster #2(U1145)
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100% of Utd fans rated and wanted RvP didn't they
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I didn't want him, and I would still rather we hadn't bought him. It was a vanity purchase by SAF to ensure he retired on a title win. Would have much more satisfaction seeing Rooney and Welbeck continue to develop a partnership that started so well in 2011-12. Everyone loves a strike partnership and with RvP you don't get one. We have just lost a young, talented, local player for 2 years of RvP.
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Read this post, saw your username and just had to

The irony
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Not really... we have him so I'm making use of the name - bit of creativity .

posted on 4/9/14


"Cheap £16m" - That's not cheap for Welbeck at all, and pointing to the inflated fees paid for Long and Lallana don't change that,

"Fergie Factor - Ferguson rated him highly" - Ferguson also risked sacrificing Welbeck's potential by using him in a destroyer/workhorse role to compensate for lack of legs elsewhere. Remains to be seen what impact this has had on Welbeck's ceiling.

"Proven Prem" - even if you believe in this being an important factor in a transfer, Welbeck's hardly a proven top performer at the top end of the league.

I agree that he offers mobility, which Arsenal need, and that he has a decent resale value. If it doesn't work out at Arsenal, someone will definitely take a punt on him. But I don't think it it can be considered low-risk when you take into account what is at stake for Arsenal this season.

Time will tell, but I don't think Welbeck at 16m was the answer.

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Dr Seven Grater (U13441)
posted 1 minute ago

"Cheap £16m" - That's not cheap for Welbeck at all, and pointing to the inflated fees paid for Long and Lallana don't change that,

"Fergie Factor - Ferguson rated him highly" - Ferguson also risked sacrificing Welbeck's potential by using him in a destroyer/workhorse role to compensate for lack of legs elsewhere. Remains to be seen what impact this has had on Welbeck's ceiling.

"Proven Prem" - even if you believe in this being an important factor in a transfer, Welbeck's hardly a proven top performer at the top end of the league.

I agree that he offers mobility, which Arsenal need, and that he has a decent resale value. If it doesn't work out at Arsenal, someone will definitely take a punt on him. But I don't think it it can be considered low-risk when you take into account what is at stake for Arsenal this season.

Time will tell, but I don't think Welbeck at 16m was the answer.
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I appreciate everyone entltled to an opinion, but Shane Long cost £12M, Lallana £25M and even though hes younger, Welbeck is more proven that both, so £16M is cheap

Shaw cost £30M, Chambers £16M the list is endless

Even Borini was about to get sold to Sunderland for £14M

Welbeck is an improvement on what we currently have, he might not be the answer, but right now hes solving a problem

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Dr Seven Grater (U13441)
posted 3 minutes ago

"Cheap £16m" - That's not cheap for Welbeck at all, and pointing to the inflated fees paid for Long and Lallana don't change that,

"Fergie Factor - Ferguson rated him highly" - Ferguson also risked sacrificing Welbeck's potential by using him in a destroyer/workhorse role to compensate for lack of legs elsewhere. Remains to be seen what impact this has had on Welbeck's ceiling.

"Proven Prem" - even if you believe in this being an important factor in a transfer, Welbeck's hardly a proven top performer at the top end of the league.

I agree that he offers mobility, which Arsenal need, and that he has a decent resale value. If it doesn't work out at Arsenal, someone will definitely take a punt on him. But I don't think it it can be considered low-risk when you take into account what is at stake for Arsenal this season.

Time will tell, but I don't think Welbeck at 16m was the answer.
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I appreciate everyone entltled to an opinion, but Shane Long cost £12M, Lallana £25M and even though hes younger, Welbeck is more proven that both, so £16M is cheap

Shaw cost £30M, Chambers £16M the list is endless

Even Borini was about to get sold to Sunderland for £14M

Welbeck is an improvement on what we currently have, he might not be the answer, but right now hes solving a problem

This

posted on 4/9/14


I appreciate everyone entltled to an opinion, but Shane Long cost £12M, Lallana £25M and even though hes younger, Welbeck is more proven that both, so £16M is cheap


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If that's your opinion, that's fine. IMO it's a rationalisation to point to other players that were obviously overpriced, though. Plenty of Liverpool fans did the same regarding the Carroll fee, echoing John Henry's stance that it didn't matter what Carroll cost because of how much we got for Torres etc. Fan nature, I suppose.

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Dr Seven Grater (U13441)
posted 1 minute ago

I appreciate everyone entltled to an opinion, but Shane Long cost £12M, Lallana £25M and even though hes younger, Welbeck is more proven that both, so £16M is cheap


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If that's your opinion, that's fine. IMO it's a rationalisation to point to other players that were obviously overpriced, though. Plenty of Liverpool fans did the same regarding the Carroll fee, echoing John Henry's stance that it didn't matter what Carroll cost because of how much we got for Torres etc. Fan nature, I suppose.
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How can you claim it to be overpriced though? With so many players going for inflated fees, surely this is not an anomaly but the norm?

posted on 4/9/14



How can you claim it to be overpriced though? With so many players going for inflated fees, surely this is not an anomaly but the norm?


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Because if Arsenal fans were told a week ago that they'd be signing Welbeck for 16m, every one of them to a man would have an absolute shít-fit, that's how.

posted on 4/9/14

comment by Dr Seven Grater (U13441)
posted 1 minute ago


How can you claim it to be overpriced though? With so many players going for inflated fees, surely this is not an anomaly but the norm?


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Because if Arsenal fans were told a week ago that they'd be signing Welbeck for 16m, every one of them to a man would have an absolute shít-fit, that's how.
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That due to fickleness, not an indication of current market value.

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