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Arry's tactics tonight.
'Alright lads, i read in the sun that this De Gea does not like it when you shoot at him ,do that all night'
Harry wasted a sub by playing Walker if he was ill why play him?
At half time he should have took Defoe of and replaced him with Crouch.
At least Crouch may have caused a few problems from set pieces.
Finally Lennon looks like he has again taken a step back with his decisions with his final ball,i hope VDV gives him some stick as he was wide open.
Tactics?!
That midfield was literally all we had. The tactics you can implement are only as good as the players on the field.
Good to see that the knee jerk reactions are coming in good and early this season.
Granted tonight he was short on bodies but Thudd should have been on for Niko after about 55 mins, Niko was a passenger in the 2nd half.
Walker, that was the other thing, why play him when he was ill? He was poor as well unsurprisingly.
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Redknapp is going to have less quality to choose from when he is England manager than at a top 4 PL club.
Is he really just planning to spend more time with his god-sons (Lampard, Joe Cole etc) and his "favourites" (2m Peter etc) ??
I don't think Harry did much tactically wrong tonight to be fair. He set up the team ok and brought on the right substitutions in my opinion. The players were a let down though and basically capitulated after conceding.
Harry's tactics off-field on the other hand.....
Spurtle I agree we started ok but after the first goal it was pretty obvious that we were losing the midfield battle, to go 4-4-2 when we were all over the place was crazy.
Redknapp is going to have less quality to choose from when he is England manager than at a top 4 PL club.
Is he really just planning to spend more time with his god-sons (Lampard, Joe Cole etc) and his "favourites" (2m Peter etc) ??
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Arry if he becomes the English manager will have a lot of English talent in the ranks. But i hope he does not, because you need to be tactially strong in international football.
We gave them too much time and space on the ball. They didn't give us any. I was surprised it didn't improve after halftime - I thought they would have had a pep talk.
On paper we were a match for them. I don't think Harry called his side of things right tonight, at all.
I did not think Harry done that well at all tonight to be honest despite our injuries
Bales - I don't blame him. He brought on another striker to try and score and get back into the game. It was either a choice of lose but not lose so heavily or risk losing heavily by at least trying to get back in the game. No complaints from me
Arry's tactics tonight.
'Alright lads, i read in the sun that this De Gea does not like it when you shoot at him ,do that all night'
Spurtle - I'd agree with the logic except this is Pav we're talking about. I didn't hold out much hope for a win tbh but we were so obviously losing the midfield.. Modric has got a lot to answer for.
spurtle
Do you honestly think that playing Defoe up front on his own was a good tactical decision then ?
Bales - I don't rate Pav either but who else have we got that's going to get a goal let alone get a sniff at one?
Modric wouldn't have made much difference. He's shown his true colours as a gutless player that can't be relied upon. No point getting ourselves worked up over the fact he's anything different.
spurtle
I agree with your views on Modric and as you say neither Pav or Defoe is capable of playing up front on his own, neither is good enough.
So it comes down to tactics maybe Harry should have played 2 up front then as we dont have a player capable of playing up front on his own ?
grandspurs for United away I think one up front was fair enough. We were never going to outpossess United at home with so Harry went for the safer option. You can argue Defoe wasn't the best candidate for one up front but he's quicker than the rest of the strikers and after the Hearts game you can be forgiven for thinking he's got some sort of form.
I'l take this one grandspurs - what else was he to do? Pav's about as useful as a third elbow, Crouch injured..
Spurtle - yea I guess this was Harry telling Levy to get rid. Same old, same old - NEW STRIKER please!!
Sandro, Im glad you had the common sense to avoid watching the game, thus therefore making you unaware that Crouchinho was not even on the bench.
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Sorry didn't know he was not on the bench,i missed the first 30 mins as at work
grandspurs for United away I think one up front was fair enough
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No sorry I have to disagree. We dont defend well and have not for years at least go there using attack as the best form of defence. I for one dont think we would have lost as heavily if we had gone there aiming to win rather than aiming not to lose.
I for one dont think we would have lost as heavily if we had gone there aiming to win rather than aiming not to lose.
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I respect your opinion grandspur but that's not backed up by the evidence. Firstly our strikers have not proved themselves capable of providing the "attack". Secondly, Harry tried it and we conceded 2 more goals after switching to a 4-4-2 without coming close ourselves. Thirdly, if we'd started with 2 up front we'd have had no options but to switch to 4-5-1 if it wasn't working, with no striker on the bench in case of injuries.
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posted on 22/8/11
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posted on 22/8/11
Arry's tactics tonight.
'Alright lads, i read in the sun that this De Gea does not like it when you shoot at him ,do that all night'
posted on 22/8/11
lol jack wilshere
posted on 22/8/11
Harry wasted a sub by playing Walker if he was ill why play him?
At half time he should have took Defoe of and replaced him with Crouch.
At least Crouch may have caused a few problems from set pieces.
Finally Lennon looks like he has again taken a step back with his decisions with his final ball,i hope VDV gives him some stick as he was wide open.
posted on 22/8/11
Tactics?!
That midfield was literally all we had. The tactics you can implement are only as good as the players on the field.
Good to see that the knee jerk reactions are coming in good and early this season.
posted on 22/8/11
Granted tonight he was short on bodies but Thudd should have been on for Niko after about 55 mins, Niko was a passenger in the 2nd half.
posted on 22/8/11
Walker, that was the other thing, why play him when he was ill? He was poor as well unsurprisingly.
posted on 22/8/11
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posted on 22/8/11
Redknapp is going to have less quality to choose from when he is England manager than at a top 4 PL club.
Is he really just planning to spend more time with his god-sons (Lampard, Joe Cole etc) and his "favourites" (2m Peter etc) ??
posted on 22/8/11
I don't think Harry did much tactically wrong tonight to be fair. He set up the team ok and brought on the right substitutions in my opinion. The players were a let down though and basically capitulated after conceding.
Harry's tactics off-field on the other hand.....
posted on 22/8/11
Spurtle I agree we started ok but after the first goal it was pretty obvious that we were losing the midfield battle, to go 4-4-2 when we were all over the place was crazy.
posted on 22/8/11
Redknapp is going to have less quality to choose from when he is England manager than at a top 4 PL club.
Is he really just planning to spend more time with his god-sons (Lampard, Joe Cole etc) and his "favourites" (2m Peter etc) ??
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Arry if he becomes the English manager will have a lot of English talent in the ranks. But i hope he does not, because you need to be tactially strong in international football.
posted on 22/8/11
We gave them too much time and space on the ball. They didn't give us any. I was surprised it didn't improve after halftime - I thought they would have had a pep talk.
On paper we were a match for them. I don't think Harry called his side of things right tonight, at all.
posted on 22/8/11
I did not think Harry done that well at all tonight to be honest despite our injuries
posted on 22/8/11
Bales - I don't blame him. He brought on another striker to try and score and get back into the game. It was either a choice of lose but not lose so heavily or risk losing heavily by at least trying to get back in the game. No complaints from me
posted on 22/8/11
Arry's tactics tonight.
'Alright lads, i read in the sun that this De Gea does not like it when you shoot at him ,do that all night'
posted on 22/8/11
Spurtle - I'd agree with the logic except this is Pav we're talking about. I didn't hold out much hope for a win tbh but we were so obviously losing the midfield.. Modric has got a lot to answer for.
posted on 22/8/11
spurtle
Do you honestly think that playing Defoe up front on his own was a good tactical decision then ?
posted on 22/8/11
Bales - I don't rate Pav either but who else have we got that's going to get a goal let alone get a sniff at one?
Modric wouldn't have made much difference. He's shown his true colours as a gutless player that can't be relied upon. No point getting ourselves worked up over the fact he's anything different.
posted on 22/8/11
spurtle
I agree with your views on Modric and as you say neither Pav or Defoe is capable of playing up front on his own, neither is good enough.
So it comes down to tactics maybe Harry should have played 2 up front then as we dont have a player capable of playing up front on his own ?
posted on 22/8/11
grandspurs for United away I think one up front was fair enough. We were never going to outpossess United at home with so Harry went for the safer option. You can argue Defoe wasn't the best candidate for one up front but he's quicker than the rest of the strikers and after the Hearts game you can be forgiven for thinking he's got some sort of form.
posted on 22/8/11
I'l take this one grandspurs - what else was he to do? Pav's about as useful as a third elbow, Crouch injured..
Spurtle - yea I guess this was Harry telling Levy to get rid. Same old, same old - NEW STRIKER please!!
posted on 22/8/11
Sandro, Im glad you had the common sense to avoid watching the game, thus therefore making you unaware that Crouchinho was not even on the bench.
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Sorry didn't know he was not on the bench,i missed the first 30 mins as at work
posted on 22/8/11
grandspurs for United away I think one up front was fair enough
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No sorry I have to disagree. We dont defend well and have not for years at least go there using attack as the best form of defence. I for one dont think we would have lost as heavily if we had gone there aiming to win rather than aiming not to lose.
posted on 22/8/11
I for one dont think we would have lost as heavily if we had gone there aiming to win rather than aiming not to lose.
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I respect your opinion grandspur but that's not backed up by the evidence. Firstly our strikers have not proved themselves capable of providing the "attack". Secondly, Harry tried it and we conceded 2 more goals after switching to a 4-4-2 without coming close ourselves. Thirdly, if we'd started with 2 up front we'd have had no options but to switch to 4-5-1 if it wasn't working, with no striker on the bench in case of injuries.
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