Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
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Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not wumming.
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You were and you know it. Stop with the childish pretense.
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This is really weird. It was not, at all. No childish pretense. Sad, there's so much wumming people think any comment is wumming.
Think i was probably wumming more than HC to be fair
Glad none of you got wound up by it
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
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Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
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Oh, give over.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
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Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
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Oh, give over.
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So it was using mind powers then.....
Because after having a quick look for quotes I can't find any to back your story, or maybe Keane told you in person?
If by 'mind powers' you mean telepathy, then yes. I communicated with Roy Keane through telepathy. If you want to learn how to do it I've written a book about it, it's available on Amazon, just £5.99.
Is it any wonder that every thread descends into shít.
Keane is a pr!ck. What's the big deal? It's a handshake before the final whistle. If we're to say Mourinho is a bad winner for doing that then Lambert is equally a bad loser for not shaking his hand.
Didn't necessarily have to be telepathy, maybe you used your mental strength to break Keane's resolve down until he gave over the information willingly through interpretive dance....
I will ahh.... check out the book sometime for sure....
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is it any wonder that every thread descends into shít.
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Well when people cannot read basic quotes to begin with there isn't really much hope TBH.
No SAF, the point is, I was making a positive comment - all I wanted to say was apart from incidents like "the one that cannot be mentioned", I always liked Keane. That was the point - the second bit, but every one got all excited about the first bit.
TBH Henry my problem is a lot of people seem to think he went into intentionally injure him, on the basis of his quotes (because we didn't have half this nonsense before them)
But he says he goes into hurt the guy, and has said at other times he doesn't go into injurer players, hurt them yes, injure them no.
So people are choosing to believe a part of his quotes to make their conclusion, because we didn't have all this he injured him intentionally nonsense prior to his quotes...
Also Keane is generally brutally honest, hence him saying what he said in the first place, not much of a guy for dressing things up.
Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No.
Tbh, I don't follow and disect Keane's quotes as much as you chaps probably do - I just recall it from the time, when everyone came to the conclusion it was intentional and my vague memory of him admiting as much in a later book. I'm not big on the details, I don't care - but the whole thing, FOR ME, is a black mark on the guy whose passion, ability and presence on the pitch always impressed me. That's it. That's all.
Don't think I'll bring it up again though.
That all said, I think he should have put his fist through Mourinho.
People only came to the conclusion it was intentional after Keane admitted to it.
It's somewhat like me going on trial for intentionally running somebody over and killing them and getting charged with accidentally hitting into them.
Then confessing that actually I intentionally hit them with my car but didn't want to kill them.
Sure I could by lying but chances are if my confession actually makes me look worse then I am telling the truth.
I'll leave it there as I don't want to badger you on the issue.
Keane got the initial injury from trying to foul Haaland and Haaland was having a go at him because he was trying to foul him and then had a go at him for pretending he was injured to avoid punishment (not good conduct but it happens loads in football) look at the way the Danish players all ran to Vandereycken when he fouled Elkjær at the Euros in 1984.
Roy Keane then decided to make a disgusting tackle which he knew would cause lasting damage and possibly end Haaland's career (whether he did or didn't is sort of here or there because the intent was there.) The two incidents are not really comparable, having a go at someone for trying to foul you or trying to end someone's careeer
"Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No."
I struggle with what difference that makes to be honest. It still shouldn't be accepted.
which he knew would cause lasting damage and possibly end Haaland's career
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Another telepath?
Or someone who has a problem with basic English?
Or just someone too lazy to read his words and has only heard what others said about his words?
"Then confessing that actually I intentionally hit them with my car but didn't want to kill them."
No, no badger away - as we're actually talking about it now. For me, it's a fairly moot point at this stage - you cannot control whether the injury is terminal or not, that you've admitted hitting them with almost 2 tons of metal is plenty to do you for murder as far as I'm concerned.
And so it follows for Keane's tackle - hence my 'semantics' comment that VC took such exception to, although he failed to actually make any real coherent point. Keane hit him with almost, I dunno, 15 stone of Keane - that he didn't "intend" to injury him is kind of irrelevant.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
"Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No."
I struggle with what difference that makes to be honest. It still shouldn't be accepted.
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I am not saying hurting someone should be accepted but players intentionally hurt each other quite often....
Carragher on Nani was no different, he was giving him a marker, letting him know he was there ect.
Probably didn't mean to injure him but he meant to hurt him and it goes on plenty in football but most players don't came out and say they wanted to hurt a particular player....
Injury being something that actually stops you playing football hurt being in pain. They can occur together but they can be exclusive of each other as well.
Don't get me wrong you'd be right to say that is enough for you anyway...
But surely if I have already got away with it (so to speak) then why would I confess to a slightly worse crime so openly and honestly whilst still denying the full extent.
It would seem more likely I would keep my mouth shut altogether or admit to all of it... unless I was actually telling the truth...
Yeah SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine Keane probably went studs first onto Haaland's knee and high speed thinking this probably won't cause any lasting damage, pull the other one mate when you make that kind of challenge you know its going to cause an injury, unless you don't understand that metal studs going into a knee isn't just a 'let them you know you're there challenge"
Also SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine I'd ask Lance Armstrong about that comment a man who has admitted a bit but not everything. There is a big difference between Keane saying I went out to hit and hurt him and him saying I tried to break his knee and end his career which is why he may withold the full truth
It would have been nice to see keane on the same pitch with maureenho.....right now the arrogant t wat would be in a&e
Ahh right Keane was on trial for the challenge after the event and so was giving partial truths to cover himself?
Or his words came after any punishment and retribution for the crime had long since passed?
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Yeah SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine Keane probably went studs first onto Haaland's knee and high speed thinking this probably won't cause any lasting damage, pull the other one mate when you make that kind of challenge you know its going to cause an injury, unless you don't understand that metal studs going into a knee isn't just a 'let them you know you're there challenge"
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The let them know your there challenges can be quite violent.... like Carrager's on Nani, doesn't mean they were intentional attempts to injure the guy.
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posted on 10/10/14
Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
.............................................
Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
posted on 10/10/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not wumming.
..............
You were and you know it. Stop with the childish pretense.
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This is really weird. It was not, at all. No childish pretense. Sad, there's so much wumming people think any comment is wumming.
posted on 10/10/14
Think i was probably wumming more than HC to be fair
Glad none of you got wound up by it
posted on 10/10/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
.............................................
Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
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Oh, give over.
posted on 10/10/14
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Because his character flaw makes it reasonable and acceptable to intentionally break someone's leg.
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Keane intentionally broke someones leg?!
When?
And how do you know he intentionally broke it?
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Oh, give over.
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So it was using mind powers then.....
Because after having a quick look for quotes I can't find any to back your story, or maybe Keane told you in person?
posted on 10/10/14
If by 'mind powers' you mean telepathy, then yes. I communicated with Roy Keane through telepathy. If you want to learn how to do it I've written a book about it, it's available on Amazon, just £5.99.
posted on 10/10/14
Is it any wonder that every thread descends into shít.
posted on 10/10/14
Keane is a pr!ck. What's the big deal? It's a handshake before the final whistle. If we're to say Mourinho is a bad winner for doing that then Lambert is equally a bad loser for not shaking his hand.
posted on 10/10/14
Didn't necessarily have to be telepathy, maybe you used your mental strength to break Keane's resolve down until he gave over the information willingly through interpretive dance....
I will ahh.... check out the book sometime for sure....
posted on 10/10/14
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is it any wonder that every thread descends into shít.
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Well when people cannot read basic quotes to begin with there isn't really much hope TBH.
posted on 10/10/14
No SAF, the point is, I was making a positive comment - all I wanted to say was apart from incidents like "the one that cannot be mentioned", I always liked Keane. That was the point - the second bit, but every one got all excited about the first bit.
posted on 10/10/14
TBH Henry my problem is a lot of people seem to think he went into intentionally injure him, on the basis of his quotes (because we didn't have half this nonsense before them)
But he says he goes into hurt the guy, and has said at other times he doesn't go into injurer players, hurt them yes, injure them no.
So people are choosing to believe a part of his quotes to make their conclusion, because we didn't have all this he injured him intentionally nonsense prior to his quotes...
Also Keane is generally brutally honest, hence him saying what he said in the first place, not much of a guy for dressing things up.
Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No.
posted on 10/10/14
Tbh, I don't follow and disect Keane's quotes as much as you chaps probably do - I just recall it from the time, when everyone came to the conclusion it was intentional and my vague memory of him admiting as much in a later book. I'm not big on the details, I don't care - but the whole thing, FOR ME, is a black mark on the guy whose passion, ability and presence on the pitch always impressed me. That's it. That's all.
Don't think I'll bring it up again though.
posted on 10/10/14
That all said, I think he should have put his fist through Mourinho.
posted on 10/10/14
People only came to the conclusion it was intentional after Keane admitted to it.
It's somewhat like me going on trial for intentionally running somebody over and killing them and getting charged with accidentally hitting into them.
Then confessing that actually I intentionally hit them with my car but didn't want to kill them.
Sure I could by lying but chances are if my confession actually makes me look worse then I am telling the truth.
I'll leave it there as I don't want to badger you on the issue.
posted on 10/10/14
Keane got the initial injury from trying to foul Haaland and Haaland was having a go at him because he was trying to foul him and then had a go at him for pretending he was injured to avoid punishment (not good conduct but it happens loads in football) look at the way the Danish players all ran to Vandereycken when he fouled Elkjær at the Euros in 1984.
Roy Keane then decided to make a disgusting tackle which he knew would cause lasting damage and possibly end Haaland's career (whether he did or didn't is sort of here or there because the intent was there.) The two incidents are not really comparable, having a go at someone for trying to foul you or trying to end someone's careeer
posted on 10/10/14
"Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No."
I struggle with what difference that makes to be honest. It still shouldn't be accepted.
posted on 10/10/14
which he knew would cause lasting damage and possibly end Haaland's career
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Another telepath?
Or someone who has a problem with basic English?
Or just someone too lazy to read his words and has only heard what others said about his words?
posted on 10/10/14
"Then confessing that actually I intentionally hit them with my car but didn't want to kill them."
No, no badger away - as we're actually talking about it now. For me, it's a fairly moot point at this stage - you cannot control whether the injury is terminal or not, that you've admitted hitting them with almost 2 tons of metal is plenty to do you for murder as far as I'm concerned.
And so it follows for Keane's tackle - hence my 'semantics' comment that VC took such exception to, although he failed to actually make any real coherent point. Keane hit him with almost, I dunno, 15 stone of Keane - that he didn't "intend" to injury him is kind of irrelevant.
posted on 10/10/14
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
"Did he intentionally hurt him?
Yes
Intentionally injure him?
No."
I struggle with what difference that makes to be honest. It still shouldn't be accepted.
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I am not saying hurting someone should be accepted but players intentionally hurt each other quite often....
Carragher on Nani was no different, he was giving him a marker, letting him know he was there ect.
Probably didn't mean to injure him but he meant to hurt him and it goes on plenty in football but most players don't came out and say they wanted to hurt a particular player....
Injury being something that actually stops you playing football hurt being in pain. They can occur together but they can be exclusive of each other as well.
posted on 10/10/14
Don't get me wrong you'd be right to say that is enough for you anyway...
But surely if I have already got away with it (so to speak) then why would I confess to a slightly worse crime so openly and honestly whilst still denying the full extent.
It would seem more likely I would keep my mouth shut altogether or admit to all of it... unless I was actually telling the truth...
posted on 10/10/14
Yeah SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine Keane probably went studs first onto Haaland's knee and high speed thinking this probably won't cause any lasting damage, pull the other one mate when you make that kind of challenge you know its going to cause an injury, unless you don't understand that metal studs going into a knee isn't just a 'let them you know you're there challenge"
posted on 10/10/14
Also SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine I'd ask Lance Armstrong about that comment a man who has admitted a bit but not everything. There is a big difference between Keane saying I went out to hit and hurt him and him saying I tried to break his knee and end his career which is why he may withold the full truth
posted on 10/10/14
It would have been nice to see keane on the same pitch with maureenho.....right now the arrogant t wat would be in a&e
posted on 10/10/14
Ahh right Keane was on trial for the challenge after the event and so was giving partial truths to cover himself?
Or his words came after any punishment and retribution for the crime had long since passed?
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Yeah SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine Keane probably went studs first onto Haaland's knee and high speed thinking this probably won't cause any lasting damage, pull the other one mate when you make that kind of challenge you know its going to cause an injury, unless you don't understand that metal studs going into a knee isn't just a 'let them you know you're there challenge"
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The let them know your there challenges can be quite violent.... like Carrager's on Nani, doesn't mean they were intentional attempts to injure the guy.
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