I'm not sure we were "expected" to beat Palace away, let's get back to reality here
I fancy a close game v the Geordies but will suffer a narrow defeat 2-1. Ulloa's 6th of the season

We were the bookies and many pundits, favourites to win against Palace after beating United and it was also the first game on the fixture list that the fans "expected" us to get points.

I don't think there's much doubt there was far more pressure in the last two games than the previous five and my point is Saturday the pressure will be off again.

Even if it wasn't necessarily expected its a big difference from playing a game where the opposition are the big favourites.....

Been quite surprised with how Leicester have done, although the big thing to watch out for is the second half of the season collapse that some promoted clubs do. Not saying you will but there have been a fair few that have come up and done that. Although there are your Swansea's and Southampton's who come up and seem like a premiership team already, you are looking good, just need to keep it up.

As you say Arro, very big game for Pardew at the weekend, and one that could either mark the start of his revival or potentially a final nail in his coffin. A draw, meanwhile, might be seen as a missed opportunity for both teams.

I take issue with one of your comments though: Anyone who had us as favourites against Palace was a fool. Every away match we play this year, we will be seen by the opposition as a great opportunity for bagging 3 points; plus we were falling right into Warnock's honeymoon period. Far more disappointing was the draw at home to a Burnley team with injuries coming out of their ears.

Whether you agree or disagree Dunge, the fact still remains that the bookies and the pundits had us as favourites.

Leicester fans also saw Palace as the first game on the fixture list for us to pick up points, so a lot of people are obviously fools.

Arro please to see yot time away hasn't dulled your desire for a fight with you fellow city fan's ( I thought that was my job)
I don't think that Pardews job is in danger because as long as he keeps them in the prem thats all Ashley wants.

I can state without fear of contradiction Pardews job is not in me!

Well, that's a blow, Danger…

Palace was the first game we wasn't considered the underdog.

Take that how you wish on who was favourites.

I'll be content with any point away from home but after the late show from Burnley a point in this one probably won't satisfy me as much as it should

Ahem, easy Fat Fox

The bookies didn't have us as favourites to beat Palace at all. Palace were favourites and I couldn't care less what pundits say. Take your point that Palace and Burney would have been seen as more winnable at the start of the season and therefore potentially made us feel not like underdogs for a couple of games.

Your sense of humour sucks, fatfox

Arro please to see yot time away hasn't dulled your desire for a fight with you fellow city fan's ( I thought that was my job)

Why because I said we were favourites and people are disagreeing because they don't think we were? You call that a fight do you? I wouldn't!!

I'm not upset that Dunge or anyone else thinks we weren't favourites but I've seem evidence to suggest differently. I use Betfair in Australia and the odds on us winning were $2.60, Palace $3.30 and the draw was $1.80 so draw your own conclusion.

I also watched quite a few preview shows on YouTube, which I watch every week, and for the first time and we were tipped to win and the Sky pundits also fancied us.

I also believe the players would I have felt the pressure of winning too because of their previous performances, and the fact it was the first fixture they were expected to get something from. Again disagree if you want but that's my opinion.

Oh well if a bookies in Australia made us favourites then they must be right haha.
All the ones I looked at had palace down as favourites and rightly so. Like you said we will agree to disagree and move on. What shall we discuss next ladies?

Well I don't have English bookies odds so it's all I've got to go on really isn't it, along with the pundits of course who tipped us to win.

Though I didn't say we were expected to win, I said we were favourites and that it was the first game we "expected" to get points. Get points doesn't translate to "expected to beat Palace away." Just to clarify.

Talk about what formation and team NP will go for if you want?

Most of the pundits I head said that they thought after the high of the United game we would struggle to get ourselves up agaisnt palace and so it proved

I think what we've learned from this episode is this:

If you're going to gamble, do it in Australia - The bookies there are fricking clueless.

Id be happy enough with 2 points from the swansea and newcastle games. It would keep us ticking over and away points against established teams arent to be sniffed at.

I feel the first goal is key on Saturday.

Danger/downsouf: It was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

DM: Betfair is London-based, with a licence to operate in Tasmania. And its main business is exchange betting, not bookmaking. In other words, in all probability the odds arro is talking about will have been (a) the same in all territories, and (b) set by the punters (most of whom are in the UK), not a misguided Aussie bookie.

BTW, the numbers arro quotes indicate that the punters decided the match was most likely to be a draw. The figure 1.8 translates as 0.8-to-1, or 5-to-4 odds-on in racecourse terms.

St.James' Park has seldom been a 'Happy hunting ground' for City for as long as I can remember. Perhaps the players are overawed by the partisan support up there.

I would also be content with a draw, perhaps 1-1 at the finish.

Fat fox, you're scraping the barrel now.

The odds for Newcastle are $2.24, $3.50 Leicester and $3.65 for the draw so no argument that we're not favourites for this one. How does that stack up against odds in England?

Exactly the same odds, arro – 2.24/3.60/3.65 – which seems to confirm my assumption that the Betfair Exchange prices are calculated universally, and not territory by territory.

Out of interest, what's the minimum Betfair stake in A$?

Sorry, that should read '3.5' not '3.60'.

The minimum stake is $6. I usually bet about $100 on various scenarios and but for something out of the ordinary, I usually win or at least get my money back. I found a system during the World Cup and it won me about $700 😊