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posted on 2/11/14

Our Back five at the moment is our Championship Defense.I do not have any facts but what promoted team did that? More importantly..... Survived?

We have to go away to Man City ( how did our defense do against them in the cup last season? (They have also made additions.) Man U, Liverpool etc....

Do we wait until we lose 8-0 before anything is done? Life is tough in this league but I think we all realize the lack of quality in our ranks.

posted on 2/11/14

To honestly answer your question, it's far too early to tell.

We can all speculate on whether we think Oearson is cut out for the prem but it's too early to judge in my opinion.

I like the way Pearson approaches management and I think he's very talented at creating and motivating a squad. His biggest downsides may catch him out this year though which is that he's not a master tactician.

I'm a Pearson fan do I hope he does prove he can take us forward. Only time will tell, and he has more than earned the right to that time.

posted on 2/11/14

Being a reader of the 606 posts for a long time and just taking a back seat enjoying reading the varying perspectives of our loyal fan base, this might be an article with too many different opinions for me to jump feet first into but here I go anyway.

I too had a frustrated feeling after Saturdays game leaving me thinking does Nigel really know what he's doing? Then I think back to pre-season last year, my thoughts being why the hell have we stuck with Pearson he's getting us nowhere and we've signed nobody with a proven record of 20+ goals in a championship season. We all know how that season ended, me along with many other city fans with stinky gooey egg on our faces eating humble pie.

So should we all really be looking to blame Pearson already? Look at Newcastle a 1-0 victory against us and there season is up and running again.

I personally think Nigel is still looking for his starting 11 it's purely my opinion but he's trying to find a way to fit the new signings into the squad to make us a better team than last season, the only player making himself noticed at the moment being cambiasso but that was always going to be the case.

I can only hope the rest of the summer additions ulloa, Albrighton, Lawrence, Barmby, Upson can all still play a big part in a survival this season. I've doubted Nigel before and I can't let a dip in form leave me with egg on my face again, In Nigel we trust

comment by AJB1 (U15366)

posted on 2/11/14

Interesting responses so far, thanks for all the thoughts and opinions. Agree with them all really. My final question would then be how long do we, or more importantly the owners give it?

Hope it doesn't happen and I think most proper city fans do too but it will/has to be considered if things don't improve soon - that's football I guess.

comment by CDUBYA (U17121)

posted on 3/11/14

We have every right to question Pearson after the last few games. Changing personnel and formation week after week, losing against rivals and question marks over his initial decision not to strengthen the team with sufficient quality. That's the way football is these days managers are under scrutiny every week.

However he deserves at least until January given the job he has done in his 2 spells here. I'd even say give him until the end of the season as long as we are in touching distance of survival.

posted on 3/11/14

The question that always has to go hand in hand with the idea of swapping managers is, who do you replace him with?

posted on 3/11/14

That's the way football is these days managers are under scrutiny every week.

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The media have a lot to answer for in respect of this.

Week, week out they're practically in the faces of bosses who might just be struggling as a result of, for instance, 2 results have that have 'not gone their way' or have been conducted in a fashion that has not met their (media & public) approval. Take Alan Pardew and the barracking he's had to shoulder which seems to have coincided with the David Meyler confrontation across the water as well as a downturn In Newcastle's fortunes. Recently there's been a run of favourable results and the heat is off-for now anyway. Likewise some Spurs fans have turned on Ponch who was welcomed by many as the new 'Messiah'.

People are too easily lead by what they see on television and read in the newspapers and it doesn't do the game any good whatsoever. It would be a different case, of course, if the management team was part of a sinking ship without a glimmer of hope of staying afloat but we are not in that position.

We simply need to stand by Nigel Pearson, and I would plead with the owners to do likewise. This is very much an overview of matters without reference to changes in formation, players, tactics etc and I'm sure they are attempting to correct any flaws as I write.

It is 'early days'. I hardly expected City to be front runners at this stage.

posted on 3/11/14

Unless things are terminal by Jan (I.e. We're cut adrift in the bottom 3) I'd stick with Pearson until Feb at the earliest and allow him to use The Jan window to make the tweaks he feels he needs to.

Only if we are looking done late GeV it may be worth bringing someone in to see if we can get a short term shot in the arm to keep us up.

If we remain in the hunt until the end but ultimately go down, I'd still stick with Pearson, but as some would level at me, I am totally besotted with him and unable to see any of his faults so that's no surprise really is it.

Managerial changes can go either way - just look at the differing fortunes of Southampton and Tottenham now. Who saw that coming before the season started.

posted on 3/11/14

A lot of people asking the question "why weren't we more active in the transfer window". I don't think it would have been entirely fair to drop all the players that player a massive part in our domination of the championship last season without them ever getting the chance to prove themselves in the prem. We're only 10 games in to the season. With a leader like cambiasso in the squad I'm sure the younger players will be learning a lot as we go, and we can soon return to winning ways

posted on 3/11/14

If Nigel Pearson has made errors either with strengthening the team or tactics, he is the sort of manager that will address any problem and sort it.
He can actually put things right quicker than bringing in another manager who would want to change more than is healthy for the team.
No one knows these players strengths better than Nigel.
We may never know what really goes on behind the scenes, could it be he never had any more money to spend?
The Directors were reported to have promised to spend £180m over 3 years, well thats what we would recieve from the league over 3 years.
I doubt wether the first payment is due untill after 1 year so that could be the first time substancial monies become available.

posted on 3/11/14

'Is Nige cut out for the Prem?'

We'll know on 24 May 2015 - which will give the answer to has he kept us up? Hopefully yes on both counts and I hope he gets the opportunity to prove it one way or the other. Logically, even if we are relegated, he would be the right person for the following year in the Championship.

However logic does not come into it sometimes with football, and a bad run of form heaps pressure on managers. We are unfortunately coming to the time when, if a change is to be made, it is the most 'logical' time to do it - a month or so before the transfer window opens, when a replacement manager would have some time to assess the squad and bring in reinforcements. So, with the international break, there may only be a few games left for some under pressure manager to save his job.

Chesham - 'The question that always has to go hand in hand with the idea of swapping managers is, who do you replace him with?'
Unfortunately for the under pressure managers at the lower end of the EPL (perhaps Dyche excepted) there is lurking around a ready made Pulis shaped replacement.

posted on 3/11/14

Just posted the majority of the following on JG's post but it's relevant here as well:

We have played nearly every game this season with Championship players (every player in Saturday's starting 11 was in the Championship last year except Cambiasso). Yes, they did great against Man Utd and Arsenal but these were like cup games with nothing to lose when we raised our game and threw everything at teams who themselves were prepared to venture forward and leave gaps at the back.

it has been a thoroughly sobering experience against the bread and butter Premiership teams who work hard not to lose and have that little bit more guile to open up our defence.

If you play a team of Championship players in the Premier League then more often than not you will be playing in the Championship next season.

We are playing the price for a desperately poor transfer window in the summer; why it was so poor I have no idea.

Pearson's determination to stick with his current squad? The club's failure to identify suitable targets? The alleged wage cap restricting the choice of player's available? Players doubts about joining a newly promoted team?

Could be any of these reasons and more but the fact is we didn't really strengthen the squad with much Premier League experience and at the moment it appears that the figurative chickens are back home roosting in the King Power rafters.

Personally though, I do not want Pearson out and would definitely give him until the end of the season. For me has earnt that much at least.

posted on 3/11/14

"If you play a team of Championship players in the Premier League then more often than not you will be playing in the Championship next season."

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This is a very important point and was the key factor in how Peter Taylor started us on the plummet into obscurity. The astonishing thing is still just how much money he paid for 2nd tier players, believing them to be something more than that.

However, I don't think it's guaranteed that this is the case here. Many of our players are (or at least were up to the end of last season) young and improving. Think of Schmeichel, De Laet, Moore, Schlupp, Drinkwater, James, Knockaert, Mahrez, Wood - that's a long list of players who couldn't really be described simply as Championship players because they looked really good in that league and might have been able to step up. Even the more experienced players such as Morgan and King had earned their shot at the Premiership, and so I don't have an issue with them being given a chance.

The problem so far is that many of them are struggling to make the step up on a consistent basis. I'm not sure that it's necessarily anyone's bad judgement if they eventually don't because we all saw that they deserved the chance to do so, although that is ultimately what Pearson will be judged on. I'm in no rush to get rid of him, and if we were to go back down we wouldn't be in bad shape. (Although I'm in no way saying that we should be overjoyed about that.) But so much of this squad is in the process of feeling their way into the league, and we still don't really know most of their quality and in which league they really belong.

Incidentally, part of the problem is surely the inexperience of playing at this level, and moreover that there is so much inexperience of it throughout the squad. Perhaps it was an error not to address this more, although the problem is that you can so easily end up with a load of journeymen and money-grabbers who aren't actually any better for you in the long run. But our relegation battle this season will be decided not by our ability now, but in the ability of this squad to adapt to the rigours of this league over the whole season.

posted on 3/11/14

Taylors biggest problem was moving on the has been and Legends who where over the hill. Panic buy was massively over priced but scoring goals in the premiership is hard as we are finding out.

We are still yo nice look at Vlad the elbower he put WBA strikers in a spin and put them off their job Vardy is the only other one we have got who puts himself about .

posted on 3/11/14

Dunge - there is always a risk that you take on the money grabbers and journeymen but I would back Pearson and Walsh to sieve them out and employ the right types.

Last season we rectified the faults of the previous campaign when we had a ludicrously young and inexperienced Championship squad by bringing in Phillips, Hammond and Fatty Taylor-Fletcher. They may not have played much but their experience clearly brought some benefits off the pitch and helped us to see out some important games.

This season we seemed to have forgotten those lessons and decided to run with a comprehensively inexperienced squad in Premier League terms. I suspect Upson was brought in for just this reason and his injury has clearly been a bit of bad luck, but two or three more players who have spent a few seasons in the top division could have been helpful.

posted on 3/11/14

"Dunge - there is always a risk that you take on the money grabbers and journeymen but I would back Pearson and Walsh to sieve them out and employ the right types."

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I think they did that, and ended up with nobody left on the list!

We might need to buy a sieve with a finer mesh for January. Filter out the money-grabbers but maybe take on the odd experienced journeyman who might help us keep our heads above water this season - squeezing out the odd 0-0 draw when the opportunity presents itself on a cold night in Hull, for instance.

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