because Özil has shown many similar qualities to Pires in the last 18 months...

Oh.

because Özil has shown many similar qualities to Pires in the last 18 months...

Oh.
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what are you on about.We judge Ozil by the qualities he has shown throughout his career not the last 18 months

And those qualities have been as a number ten, bar the last 18 months when he has increasingly play wide.

"Why cant Ozil be our Bobby Pires"

Because one was a winger and the other is not?

Ozil Has play on the wing for Werder Bremen,Schalke , And for Madrid at times.

Ozil has lost his speed has no acceleration & the lack of work rate does not help as well. He is still better outwide then our other options bar Theo and Sanchez.

Any half decent Number 10 can rack up decent numbers Ozil got at Madrid tbf. Had so many assists in Madrid because he was assisting CR7, CRISTIANO F ING RONALDO , who can score from anywhere..

I'd never sell Ozil though. I'd rather sell 30-years-old Cazorla than 25-years-old Ozil. At least with Ozil even at his worse Ozil would create chances.
Santi offers nothing.

Ozil has lost his speed has no acceleration & the lack of work rate does not help as well. He is still better outwide then our other options bar Theo and Sanchez.
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Ozil is fairly fast and besides we arent looking at him to be your conventional run in a straight line winger like Giggs or Di maria.He is not that type of player.

Pires was never lightning fast.He simply has to learn to run in the spaces opened up by Sanchez and Danny and cause damage from there.

Actually that way he becomes harder to track! He has the ability it is simply an attitude issue.

Even Theo struggled as he adapted to the type of winger that Wenger wanted him to be.

When was the last time Ozil beat a man for pace.

We are talking about the guy who burnt Barry at tore him a new one at the 2010 world cup Ozil Yep? Well he's 4 years slower now. The lad lost pace.

When was the last time Ozil beat a man for pace.

We are talking about the guy who burnt Barry and tore him a new one at the 2010 world cup Ozil Yep? Well he's 4 years slower now. The lad lost pace.

Man City are monitoring the Sanchez situation

Ozil has on occasion played wide (for Germany also) however it is very much a secondary position, and he is far more productive when utilised in his preferred central role.

A player low in confidence is not going to rediscover their form being played in a position they are not suited to.

Ozil’s game has always been about manipulating the ball, and having an eye for a pass, rather than pace and skipping past players etc.

Within the system AW is currently exercising Ozil offers next to no support to his full back, so hopefully when he is fit, AW plays him in his most effective and preferred position in the middle.

You just have to read articles by any decent Arsenal journo - Lawrence, Auclair for example - about the Invincibles to realise why comparisons between Özil and Pires are, unfortunately, completely flawed.

The Invinsibles played for each other. They looked after one another. If one of their mates was having a bad time of it, one, two, sometimes more of them would help them out.

That also happened pre-Invincibles. I was listening to an Arsenal blogger the other day reminiscing about a match where Parlour was helping protect Dixon when he was struggling against Ginola.

That simply doesn't happen with this new team at all, perhaps bar Kos and Merte. Look back to the Swansea game and how little Chamberlain did to help out his 'great mate' Chambers when he was being turned inside out for 90 minutes by Montero.

So who is Özil's Vieira in the current team? Wilshere? Ramsey? Flamini? Two of those guys play for themselves before the team, whilst the other barely manages even that.

Got me thinking though, apart from Henry and Vieira, would any of that great side of yore have thrived alongside this current crop?

But perhaps that's one for another time...

I think Cole, Gilberto, Campbell and Bergkamp would do just fine, in truth.

It's funny how whenever ozil is injured, articles like this are made.

Ozil will be sold soon along with sanchez.

Poor man's Tadic

That simply doesn't happen with this new team at all, perhaps bar Kos and Merte. Look back to the Swansea game and how little Chamberlain did to help out his 'great mate' Chambers when he was being turned inside out for 90 minutes by Montero.
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Question therefore is, who in the (pre)invincibles instigated the organisation between the players? Because if it isn't the manager then with this current crop we have no chance. There isn't a single leader amongst them.

It should be the manager pointing out who needs the cover and who should provide the support. The players organisation should just be supplemental, on top of the managers instructions.

Ozil, first and foremost, needs to be played in his best position. I don't buy this "he played out wide for X team" argument. For Arsenal, Ozil out wide has been abysmal. However, when he's given the central role, he can drift out wide to suit the team. But his main position should be behind the striker dictating play.

Diaby

OP was not an Arsenal fan when we were actually successful. Ozil and Pires are nothing alike and it is a disgrace to compare the 2.

So who is Özil's Vieira in the current team? Wilshere? Ramsey? Flamini? Two of those guys play for themselves before the team, whilst the other barely manages even that.
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Best comment of the day. I remember 2 seasons ago after we got beaten by Bayern, the team started to play together and we went on an amazing run (would have won the league from January to January).

Unfortunately now, we have a group of individual whom everyone is looking for the headlines.
Wilshere and Ramsey both leading particularly that group.

Pires could still play for us today bring him back

Stopped reading after trying to make sense of this
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'The same people who complain why we did not sign Cesc in the summer where happy to see Ozil shunted to the wing to accommodate Cesc but still use the "Ozil being played out of position" excuse to attack our manager.'

It's true they defintley don't play got each other anymore. What most of you are saying sounds like you've been listening to alan Davis recently on Tuesday club! Either way he was making some great points and it's worth a listen.

Anyway, yeah They're all looking for personal glory, the midfield is riddled with players like that. Probably only giroud, sanchez welbeck would prioritise a good team performance for a poorer personal one and work hard for their team mates. Gibbs, mert and kos will play and cover one and other when playing. But take one of them out, and it falls apart. Midfield will happily sit and watch each other get skinned or a fall back roasted, and will do feck all about it to help. It's like a team from the Apprentice! They'll all to concerned about showing off their own ability, than realising it's a team game. It's Like a playground footie game with us.

Got sanchez working his arsė off all game, yet others are total passengers, and are happy to play within themselves. Must be demoralising for him.

"That simply doesn't happen with this new team at all, perhaps bar Kos and Merte. Look back to the Swansea game and how little Chamberlain did to help out his 'great mate' Chambers when he was being turned inside out for 90 minutes by Montero."

I don't think it's fair to critcise Chamberlain's defensive contribution. He faced Montero four times when Chambers had got caught upfield, and whilst Chamberlain conceded a foul on one occasion, the other three times, Montero couldn't get round him - a much more successful one-on-one duel record than Chambers had against the Ecuadorian.

There's really only so much Chamberlain can be expected to do, and I think he did his job as well as one could expect.
If you look at the goal, for example, Chamberlain tracks back to support Chambers - standing in the space inside to cover for any underlapping role of Taylor, as well as preventing Montero from cutting inside.
In theory, this sort of positioning makes the full-backs job relatively straight-forward, since the winger only has one place to go (down the line) - meaning the full-back can give himself a yard or two to cover the byline.
Unfortunately, Chambers simply didn't have the pace to prevent Montero beating him down the line (which he did on ample occasions in the match).

Chamberlain consistently tracked Taylor, as well as covering in-case Montero cut back inside. As the full-back, it's Chambers' sole responsibility to cover the run down the line, and as highly as I rate Chambers (as a CB at least), I would say it was solely his fault that they got so much joy down that side.

How long have you got ?

Ozil is not fit to lace his boots. He will probably be gone at end of the season.

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^But as I say, Chamberlain did help defend.

Look at the goal they scored:
Chamberlain tracks back to support Chambers - standing in the space inside to cover for any underlapping role of Taylor, as well as preventing Montero from cutting inside.
In theory, this sort of positioning makes the full-backs job relatively straight-forward, since the winger only has one place to go (down the line) - meaning the full-back can give himself a yard or two to cover the byline.
Unfortunately, Chambers simply didn't have the pace to prevent Montero beating him down the line (which he did on ample occasions in the match).

The exact same thing happened with the Bony chance as well; Chamberlain tracked back (all the way into his own penalty area) and covered Chambers - meaning Chambers could anticipate the drive down the line from Montero - but if Chambers can't stop Montero from overcoming this disadvantage and still managing to skin him down the line, there's absolutely nothing Chamberlain can do.

Even our goal came about from a Chamberlain run from inside our own half after he had tracked back to our own penalty area.

I really don't see how he can be critcised for not doing enough defensively.